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Datisi · Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:00 pm

oh holy shit. mafia watcher enabler here. hi t3.

two traitors, huh. the issue is they can't make kills, which means at least one of us will have to endgame if we wanna win. and the town is also gonna be full as shit of power roles... aaaaagh.

while i have played a crap ton of normals, fakeclaiming is actually a very poor aspect of my scumgame. you got any ideas?

Datisi · Post Post #6 (isolation #1) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:02 pm

In post 2, T3 wrote:so uh
this is gonna be the most annoying and painful game for everyone invilved

glhf

when i saw i randed scum, i was like "holy fucking shit nice, 4 person scumteam!!"

and then i realized 2 of them are traitors ahahhahaa fuck

Datisi · Post Post #7 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:28 pm

In post 4, T3 wrote:alternatively if a town claims finder i can say that I was informed there is a mafia finder to secure a free mislim
idk i might be overthinking it

highly doubt this would work btw
and not sure about the above fakeclaim either, seems a bit complicated

traitor hunting... doesn't help that i don't have that much experience with people on this playerlist. the only person i have a lot of exp here is ico (and like, i mean a lot a lot) but knowing my luck, he's s town combined cop mason or some shit lol

Datisi · Post Post #10 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:51 pm

i'm most experienced with ico and andres lol

and andres is decently familiar with my scumgame and towngame so if he's town he is going to be a problem
and i don't think he's physically capable of rolling scum lol

Datisi · Post Post #11 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:52 pm

wow, not only is this game going to be the standard pressure of rolling scum, it's also gonna be added pressure of not killing my own traitors!! fun!!!

Datisi · Post Post #12 (isolation #5) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:53 pm

i'm straight up assuming there's either an enabler-finder or a traitor-finder in the game because it seems to me we're enabling town's most powerful roles

Datisi · Post Post #14 (isolation #6) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:17 pm

i don't think that would work since generally if town is informed of mafia's roles, mafia will be informed of that so that they don't kill themselves with a trueclaim

which is why i think town would be skeptical of that claim

Datisi · Post Post #15 (isolation #7) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:23 pm

plus town backups for mafia roles are generally way too much swing and are very rare

hmm
why is life like this

Datisi · Post Post #18 (isolation #8) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:28 pm

you do get that that role requires us to produce a clear for every night after one of those dies, right?

also, if our traitors are smart, they're the ones who should be making outlandish claims, since their goal is to get us to endgame

while we should be aiming to endgame, maybe just claiming vt would be enough

i might claim an enabler of something stupid if we're worried there's an enabler-finder, though my bet is on the traitor-finder personally

Datisi · Post Post #19 (isolation #9) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:29 pm

In post 17, T3 wrote:backup finder as in backs up finders

idk :<

don't think that's normal? i think it would be eg backup traitor-finder, not a general backup finder

Datisi · Post Post #20 (isolation #10) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:29 pm

kinda unfortunate this game starts on a day i'm vla but oh well, we'll manage hopefully

Datisi · Post Post #22 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:54 pm

though i think we may be better off figuring out what to claim once times comes rather than right now

btw, i just realized that 3rd year in a row, my first mafia game after starting a uni year is a scumgame

Datisi · Post Post #23 (isolation #12) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:45 am

i want to say "traitor!ico wouldn't be that obvious"

but subtlety isn't dragon's strong suit

Datisi · Post Post #26 (isolation #13) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:19 am

what, why

Datisi · Post Post #28 (isolation #14) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:33 am

not conclusive, he usually shitposts like that

i am genuinely scumreading ico and knowing my recent read rate on him i think he's a traitor

Datisi · Post Post #30 (isolation #15) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:41 am

yep, maybe i'm getting confbiased but everything ico is doing is screaming scum to me so like. he's probably one traitor.

btw, you don't have to start scumreading me immediately, you know >_>

Datisi · Post Post #31 (isolation #16) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:53 am

no clue who the other is... god i hope it's not sel. sometimes i'm making a post and i'm like "wait no this person is being genuinely scummy, shit is this a traitor?"

Datisi · Post Post #32 (isolation #17) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:22 pm

tinfoil: if the two traitors are informed of each other, i would guess it's gamma+ico, since their townreads on each other are like, weird and unexplained and idunno if i buy it. but i'm not banking on this one, my scumhunting is shite when i'm town, so doubt it would be much better now >_>

Datisi · Post Post #33 (isolation #18) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:22 pm

ok i'm now skimming the thread and i'm finding more and more clues that gamma is a traitor as well, i'll point them out after i get home from my class

Datisi · Post Post #34 (isolation #19) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:55 am

so gamma randomly mentioned traitors in the early game, townread me pretty easily, had a FUCKING MINDMELD with you, and had a "haha scum can you nk wiki pls" post, i think those are traitor stuff.

another tinfoil, because i think it's Neat: not only are ico and gamma traitors informed of each other, they're also in a hood together

Datisi · Post Post #35 (isolation #20) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:57 am

also maybe i'm going overboard but uh i also noticed this

In post 341, Iconeum wrote:
In post 181, Gamma Emerald wrote:andres and wiki
i'd also townbin these 2, and by extention give some town cred to dwlee then and just trust on andres a bit.
GE's opening is fine to me.
Datisi i just *wanna* townread ya know
I have no clue on how to read T3 here

no other notable shotgun reads come to mind

here ico mentiones gamma, me, and you separately, and with capital letters
i don't think the discussion was currently on you, so i don't get why'd he feel the need to mention a "idk how to read t3" in a shotgun reads post
unless it was to signal that gamma is one of us

Datisi · Post Post #36 (isolation #21) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:59 am

i lied i'm kinda actually having fun in this game (for now huehuehue)

btw while i am generally anti bus, considering that we need at least one of the two of us to endgame, might not be a terrible idea to keep interacting with one another so that if one of us flips, the other is more likely to be read as town

because if one of us flips, the other will have to be read as town

also can we kill andres tonight okay cool thanks

Datisi · Post Post #38 (isolation #22) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:06 am

i do wanna keep some antagonistic theatre between us going, because i think it will be useful in the long run, i'm just worried about accidentally going too far with it lol you feel me

Datisi · Post Post #40 (isolation #23) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:26 am

i don't think people will buy that without it seeming like tmi though

Datisi · Post Post #41 (isolation #24) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:00 am

i used to think that i have become pretty decent at mimicking my town tone as scum

andres keeps proving me wrong >_>

Datisi · Post Post #42 (isolation #25) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:31 am

so wiki is gonna be doing that bullshit, huh. if we end up getting dwlee flipped today, it would be nice padding for getting him tomorrow. i doubt a dwlee yeet is likely, though.

Datisi · Post Post #43 (isolation #26) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:12 am

wiki's arguments are so fucking bad, holy shit. anyone who defends a scumread of his is automatically scum.

Datisi · Post Post #44 (isolation #27) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:15 am

also i think i'm gonna go all-in on hard defending ico, because i think if he flips i almost always die next

Datisi · Post Post #46 (isolation #28) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:21 am

yeah, i know town!him can be trolly sometimes

also holy shit this game is annoying

i like how andres is tring me for my attitude, but like i'm not playing it up i just currently have a headache from this game

Datisi · Post Post #47 (isolation #29) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:35 am

i think we could use some more interactions in the thread, but i have no idea what to interact with you about lol

Datisi · Post Post #48 (isolation #30) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:16 am

Spoiler:

Datisi · Post Post #50 (isolation #31) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:15 am

i don't think i actually want dorsey flipped today, would probably be a sweet misyeet later on.

my vague plan for today is to push my own things, but try to make it so that the day's yeet ends up being whatever townie wiki is incorrectly pushing - this will help make him look scummier, and it gives me space to start tomorrow pushing what i started today but couldn't finish because wiki was louder than me and forced a misyeet

so maybe the better idea here would be for you to help wiki push whatever incorrect reads he's pushing? not sure how you're currently aligned in the thread

Datisi · Post Post #51 (isolation #32) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:17 am

i don't wanna have to kill wiki, even though he keeps repeating how he's an important role or something like that

do you think it's a bluff?

Datisi · Post Post #52 (isolation #33) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:18 am

in a perfect world, 2 misyeets in a row would land us in 9p lylo, but knowing town is probably full af of power roles, i don't wanna be toooooo optimistic.

Datisi · Post Post #54 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:27 am

hmm
if i flip first, ico might make it out alive
if he flips first, anyone with more than 4 brain cells is gonna look at the beginning of his iso and fucking murder me

also lmfao andres can you stop crushing my scummy dreams for FIVE MINUTES?

Datisi · Post Post #55 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:19 am

aaaaaandreeeeesssss

Datisi · Post Post #56 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:40 am

i think it's way too late for any convincing bus here, so i think a better solution would be to just like, Not vote you? lol

Datisi · Post Post #57 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:48 am

i want to make a meme but it's kinda mean to gamma (assuming i am correct about him being the second traitor)

Datisi · Post Post #58 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:32 am

Datisi · Post Post #60 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:17 pm

In post 1641, Datisi wrote:
In post 1640, Datisi wrote:it's fair, dorsey's vote feels gross enough to poison the whole well
poison the whole wagon*

i was thinking of "poisoning the well" fallacy as i was typing that up xd

lol this freudian slip lmfao

Datisi · Post Post #62 (isolation #40) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:01 pm

andres is scumreading you because"your worldview is so different than theirs" >_>

Datisi · Post Post #63 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:29 am

man, it's been a long long while since i've flipped on d1

i'm gonna try to be optimistic, but uh.

Datisi · Post Post #65 (isolation #42) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:10 pm

i'm genuinely fucking mad at this game. half the town is either not playing or they're dense, and it's impossible to manipulate either

i think there's a decent chance i go down today and i don't think we win this if i do, but i'm gonna go down screaming. i'm currently betting a fair amount on being able to screech my way into being townread, but no promises.

Datisi · Post Post #66 (isolation #43) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:51 am

this game is a shitfest

btw, i'm thinking of claiming vanilla cop. maybe some sorta gate. it feels like an okay role but not too powerful.

i came up with it earlier, when i thought i was gonna have to claim, but it generally feels like, not too bad. knowing my luck though, there's a real vanilla cop in town, but /shrug lol

Datisi · Post Post #68 (isolation #44) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:22 am

sorry i'm not of more help, i legit came home, ate dinner, and will be collapsing into bed

from what i skimmed, the situation is... not great. looker is doing dumb shit and bussing, and neither of us are voting the other, which is gonna be really fucking bad if one of us flips :/ can't say i have much advice though...

Datisi · Post Post #69 (isolation #45) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:58 am

i know i'm scum so obviously some of my reactions are a bit overexaggerated... but i genuinely think town!me would be losing my shit with both three and wiki here. like, i know i'm pushing three because i don't want to die, but i believe in what i'm pushing. i think i'd find it extremely suspicious if i were town.

Datisi · Post Post #70 (isolation #46) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:04 am

what a shitshow of a game, though.

Datisi · Post Post #71 (isolation #47) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:34 pm

every time i think that this game can't get worse, it gets worse

Datisi · Post Post #72 (isolation #48) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:37 pm

it's been a really long time since i've strategically lurked, but if someone hammers three, i think that's gonna be the best for us, so i'm gonna stay quiet for a little bit more to see if that happens.

gotta say i'm actually legit townreading three now, and i feel bad for him being attacked by wiki, which is also kinda why i don't wanna jump in now to add fuel to the fire. i've also thought about jumping ship and voting wiki, but i'm not sure we'll get another opportunity to get him voted out afterwards.

Datisi · Post Post #74 (isolation #49) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:40 am

oh wow, that's a shitty replaceout.

Datisi · Post Post #75 (isolation #50) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:50 am

i'm legit planning on claiming vanilla cop who's gonna check wiki tonight, because i am very convinced that scum is all gonna be goons huehuehue

is andres a good kill still? i think he's gonna bring up the "there's scum in datisi/three" tomorrow, and this way if we kill him, it might get forgotten due to wiki being wiki

Datisi · Post Post #78 (isolation #51) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:22 am

dwlee might be limmable, you never know, they're being kinda low energy

people are already tired of wiki's shit, and he's already counterclaimed the jailkeeper (lol????) so i think we have a solid chance getting him yeeted tomorrow

Datisi · Post Post #79 (isolation #52) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:23 am

also, i am right on lookerslot being traitor, right? like, the way looker's been interacting with me has me doubting it a bit lol

Datisi · Post Post #80 (isolation #53) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:25 am

andres definitely ain't our traitor though, so

t3 kills andres

i'm sending you out considering you're a finder enabler (and i'm still guessing the finder is very dangerous here). like, if the watcher sees one of us, i think it's better for them to see you, since i can just... kill the watcher the next night (assuming town doesn't have more bullshit protectives, which i doubt because doc+watcher is a big no-no)

however, if you wanna send me out there, feel free to change

Datisi · Post Post #83 (isolation #54) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:20 am

btw, i just figured out who wiki is. i knew i heard one of the phrases he said somewhere before. one search on the site, turns out i was right.

Datisi · Post Post #85 (isolation #55) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:53 am

oh thank fuck, i read the signs right. he said anything else?

Datisi · Post Post #87 (isolation #56) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:57 am

yeah, i figured out his slot was the traitor early on, during our theatre i was thinking he's the traitor.

he didn't mention ico? there goes my "traitors are informed of each other" theory, i guess.

also, dude, you gotta stop ignoring me in thread. at some point it's gonna bite us in the ass i feel.

Datisi · Post Post #89 (isolation #57) » Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:12 am

lowkey thinking salsa might have a guilty on me, considering she was calling me town yesterday. not sure your chainsaw is like, the Right move there :/

here's hoping i'm wrong, though.

Datisi · Post Post #93 (isolation #58) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:43 am

what just happened

Datisi · Post Post #94 (isolation #59) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:11 am

ooooh he was a vt

i am so fucking claiming vanilla cop tomorrow with a n1 vanilla result on him ahahahaahahah

Datisi · Post Post #96 (isolation #60) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:23 am

i'm gonna do the big brain

while i do agree dwlee is the optimal kill, i have a gut feeling there's gonna be a watcher on them...

Datisi · Post Post #98 (isolation #61) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:03 pm

agh, but everyone else is so scummy...

like. enchant, salsa, a50, dorsey, gera. all feel like possible misyeets.

does the watcher even matter though? it's gonna be lylo. everyone is automatically more suspicious of guilties in lylo.

datisi kills dwlee

inputting this for now. i feel like i have better odds of winning a 1v1 against a watcher, so i should probably do it? idk

any ideas who i should vanilla cop tonight? i was thinking "not vanilla" on looker, but idk really

Datisi · Post Post #99 (isolation #62) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:01 pm

oh, and if there was a watcher on wiki on n1, they'll know i'm lying, so. probably for the better i carry the kill tonight

Datisi · Post Post #101 (isolation #63) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:05 am

watcher down!

issue is they're simple. wonder if anyone is gonna call out a vanilla cop claim as obvious bullshit? hmm... i still wanna big brain meme and go for it

Datisi · Post Post #105 (isolation #64) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:20 am

time to be a piece of shit and fake having a breakdown over this game because my "guilty" turned out to be a fakeclaiming townie huehuehue

Datisi · Post Post #106 (isolation #65) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:31 am

also, for some reason i doubt that we would've been given a watcher enabler if the only watcher in town was a simple watcher, who can see a very limited amount of targets. wouldn't be surprised if there's another one i guess

Datisi · Post Post #107 (isolation #66) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:35 am

dorsey would've been hellofa headache this game if i were town

Datisi · Post Post #108 (isolation #67) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:02 pm

dorsey's points are so bad i'm actually lowkey wondering if they're some sorta activated ic

Datisi · Post Post #110 (isolation #68) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:37 pm

a50 doesn't seem like he wants to unvote. so quickhammer is definitely possible. the problem is you ico looker have no fucking way of communicating with each other

Datisi · Post Post #112 (isolation #69) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:11 am

i guess? if only the fucker wasn't v/la weekends, i think my heart is gonna give out by monday. i hate lylos lol

Datisi · Post Post #113 (isolation #70) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:36 pm

looks like my heart did not give out by monday. now we wait...

Datisi · Post Post #114 (isolation #71) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:45 pm

LOOKER WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING LMFAO SHUT THE FUCK UP

Datisi · Post Post #115 (isolation #72) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:48 pm

surely dorsey isn't a vengeful ahahahshhaha right right???

i will literally cry if i lose another scumgame like that