Disney Princess - sangres/Nazarene

[Nazarene]

Where did we have you as scum?

Also, what are your meta reads on players, as applicable? Kat's hammer as well?

[Nazarene]

Just ftr I have no access on my reg account.

Ffery, talk to me about katsuki.

~Tier

[Nazarene]

Vote that early =/= strong scum read, at least for me (~A).

Are you neutral on whether the hammer was refuge in audacity, then?

If you are looking at the other wagoners, I assume Maya is the one that is sticking out to you?

[Nazarene]

I moved back on the wagon because I obviously did not expect someone to hammer when hammering made absolutely no sense in any way. We still had not developed a single collective read; the idea that someone would end the day was not even a consideration.

[Nazarene]

Well I haven't even been getting involved...this went so fast.

So you both think she's town? Why?
~T

[Nazarene]

Quickhammer so town? Really?1

[Nazarene]

And you think he's not just faking town meta?

[Nazarene]

Why zar?

[Nazarene]

Like I want you to explain it thoroughly because I don't see it at all.

[Nazarene]

Oh and how do you read us?

[Nazarene]

Nah I'm discussing shit with Aegor first.

I asked you to explain your read on Zar, can you please do so?
And while you're at it, can you give a reason why I'm scum?

I think our reads will appear inthread tomorrow. A sneak preview: Zar is town :O

[Nazarene]

Why aren't you ready to elaborate on your read on the person you're voting? Don't you wanna rally support for that read?

[Nazarene]

Wasn't blaming Aegor; was just disappointed. In myself, too.

I don't see why we can't just freely discuss things and from that decide on each others' alignments. Let's do that.

How do you feel about not being NK'd, seeing you are more or less in control of the town and consisting of two strong players? Does that tell you anything?

[Nazarene]

Eh, I actually just think you're scum with Zar!
But that's okay, we're lynxhing your scum buddy first. Unless you have something productive to do?

Zar's latest posts are what, distancing?

[Nazarene]

It mostly worries me. I can of course come up with a such list, but none of these options look like what happened here....

[Nazarene]

Okay, let us all take a chill pill.

sangres,

What are you guys thinking atm?

[Nazarene]

We neighbourized you because we weren't sure on your alignment and thought neighbourizing you could help us to read you.

Ffery, I'm missing the confrontational, interrogatory posts I'm used to see coming from town-you, even though I feel a tad better with your readslist in place.

My reads before were zar-town, TF+maya-null/town, katsuki null and you and rach as scum. Aegor can tell his if he wants to.

I'm not so sure about you anymore so I'm willing to work with you guys to help clear up the air.

I'd like you to expand on what specifically worried you about Zar at the start and what exactly in his posts made you think he's town.
Next, I'd like you to elaborate on your Rach read. Lightly pushing strong players isn't hard for scum to do at all. Is there another reason you think she's town?

-Tier

[Nazarene]

Head dissonance on Maya: I have her as null-scum for the same reasons you do. Both of us like Rach for scum, though.

None of us felt that there were any players strongly town enough to justifying neighboring them on that basis.


-A

[Nazarene]

I'd like you to expand on what specifically worried you about Zar at the start and what exactly in his posts made you think he's town.
Next, I'd like you to elaborate on your Rach read. Lightly pushing strong players isn't hard for scum to do at all. Is there another reason you think she's town?

Can you still do this?

Inactivity is not a good marker for alignment. Maya seems town due to her light-hearted, jokeful first few posts, then in 281 she takes pretty much the opposite stance on her vote on N as Rach did; not apologizing, but fully standing behind the decision she's made. 283 was something I was wondering myself and that you still haven't answered. I don't see much scumminess apart from not doing anything.

-Tier

[Nazarene]

I am here. Ask away.

-A

[Nazarene]

I intend to do it, but I am chewing over something I'll want you to address atm and wanted Nacho's thoughts about it first.

Post 5 in the neighborhood you said that an early vote didn't mean a scum-read, and implied heavily that my impression that you guys were scum-reading us was incorrect.

Post 39 you say "My reads before were zar-town, TF+maya-null/town, katsuki null and you and rach as scum. Aegor can tell his if he wants to." From which I infer that at least one of you were scumreading us at the end of day 1.

I am not quite sure what the inconsistency is. The first post was mine; the second was Tier's.

Neither of the hydra's first two votes on you (both mine) was because we were scum reading you. They were more exploratory/RVS votes. TS was scum reading you by the end of Day 2. I largely agreed, but am reconsidering. When TS comes back (IDK where he is) we will discuss it in the QT.

[Nazarene]

I didn't do jackshit until day 2 had already started. I suggested neighbouring you because I was unsure on your alignment (I was basically on everyone's but xay, who I didn't wanna talk to) and you guys are strong players.

So timeline

Day1 start-->day 1 end-->I suggest recruiting you guys-->day 2-->I start playing and get retrospective townread on N and scumread on you and rach-->am reconsidering scumread on you guys

K?

Now talk to me about zar before day end pls

~Tier

[Nazarene]

neighborize not recruit. I have recruit on the brain.

*giggles*

[Nazarene]

I'm not set at ease by either explanation, especially Aegor's. It baffles me that a town neighborizer in a 9p game would risk neighborizing even a null read.

Dun worry, we just suck at this game.

I see your comments about 298, don't you agree with it's content tho?

Your comments on rach are: she plays scummily as town so she's town? Don't buy that.

You also say she hardly puts reads inthread as scum, which she hasn't actually done so, so you think she's scum?

Can you just state your read on her?

And if you think we're town, why don't you wanna share nacho's reasons for townreading her? Is it really so secret other people can't see it postgame?

[Nazarene]

And re maya: hasn't done shit but is that necessarily alignment-indicative? Rach has done the same but even worse; she's pretending she has and making exvuses why she didn't do more.

[Nazarene]

Can you expand on what scum meta on rach amde you think zar might be incorrect?

I'm concerned because if you see the thing zar is seeing, I find it weird you'd put him as scum

[Nazarene]

Do you know who maya actually is?

[Nazarene]

No. But I think it matters.

[Nazarene]

Hey uh we are town!

And the super duper last few ffery posts made me think you are town somewhat but I'm not sure!

And I'm gonna analyze the shit out of this game and find the last scum!

[Nazarene]

There's just 22 pages so I'm rereading the shit out of them.
And if I conclude you are town I will completely bash you with analysis because either zar or I are dying tonight.

And if I do conclude that you should just be damn willing to talk to me. I mean, if we were scum, we'd just kill you now, wouldn't we?

-T

[Nazarene]

And just ftr, I certainly wouldn't hammer my partner in such a circumstance, when there is second to no pressure on me. You both played with me in mistakes and I kept calling who town to the latest possible moment and then when nacho made a case I was like 'uh ok maybe'. Anyway, I'd not vote, let it go to deadline and steal one of town's valuable lynches and probably nightkill you. And later I would maybe bus the fuck out of my partner but I'd certainly let it go to deadline.

But this is kinda invalid if there's plurality lynching but there is no deadline lynch rule in the rules so I thiiink it wouldve been a no lynch if we hadn't voted.

Weirdest thing here is how you think we are scum and being blatant about it. No town in their right mind would do that. That means:
-you are not town, are killing me tonight, and are just trolling
-you can't die
-you don't think we are scum and are just trying to draw the NK in case we are scum.
-you are stupid

It's probably the first or the third.

Anyway, off to game analysis.

[Nazarene]

You're going to process and push what I say if we die overnight, okay?

Ok, so you have a couple choices, assuming you're scum. One of them you need to do if you're town, too.

Just be upfront if you have something useful to say

you should just claim scum to us at the beginning of the night and then shoot the shit out of us.
that's what i'd do as scum. you know jailkeeper, so no protective role.

Goddammit I thought a jailer was sth diff than a JK but I was too lazy to research it.

That makes my second option for why you're talking to us a bit less likely.

[Nazarene]

I'm at page 4 now.
I'm kinda not seeing the evilness I saw in you before but still the evilness in rach remains. Why do you think her opening post was indicative of her being town? I'd like navho to answer this, please, since all I've gotten is some mumbo-jumbo excuse from ffery.

And I'm still depressed you went after N

[Nazarene]

Why did you think maya was town in 290?

I swear if you're gonna ignore me again for 'not being sure if we're town' I'm gonna hit something

[Nazarene]

And just a quick note I'm disgusted with the inaccuracy and narcissism of all the nacho posts up to here.

[Nazarene]

I think you are town
And I was just looking forward so much to catching you as scum.


Well, rach's 316 and 318 show some sort of interest in the game that looks genuine. Makes me think she might be town,

I have a very weak PoE atm (page 13) that tells me it's cabd and if not cabd, maybe katsuki.

[Nazarene]

Zar is 100% town for the way he attacked maya

Maya's just copying someone else's read on TF and saying 'I agree' which makes me think it's TF.

Perhaps rach should remain in the possible scumpool.

P-edit: I wasn't saying you were ignoring the thread, it's just that you've done so before and you shouldn't do it again now.

Your explanation makes sense.

[Nazarene]

Okay, I'll leave it for nacho to answer.

Why do you think in 427 that cabd and maya cannot be a team together?

[Nazarene]

You think the posts that were overly focused on each other early game are impossible to come from scumbuddies?

Btw I don't see scumyou defending a townie (cabd) when he's veery close to getting lynched and then leading a lynch on your scumbuddy. I like to think you are a bit more careful about bussing, especially nacho after the pick your power game.

What exactly was it that cabd did that made you suspicious of him and how could he have known it would make you?

[Nazarene]

Okay, I might see that. I'm still thinking a crossbus at the end of day 2 is very much possible, tho. Maya was pushing for cabd pretty hard and trying to make it really obvious she didn't have the same alignment as cabd ('this is stupid, I'm going to flip town and you're going to let cabd off the hook).

I'm puzzled who else it could be and I'm going to read up on katsuki some more.

[Nazarene]

I'm going to leave for now and perhaps Aegor will talk to you later.

I'm wondering what makes you think we are partners with maya. Or what makes you think we are scum in general. Is it PoE?

P-edit: I fail to see what exactly convinces you cabd is town.
And do neighbourized people flip neighbour? Didn't know.

[Nazarene]

We still have a Rach-town read and she doesn't look like a Maya partner

Why?

I think zar is very much town, look how he went after maya, fully convinced of himself being right.

You are beating around the bush what exactly made you think cabd is town.

[Nazarene]

That said maya's partner is probably in post 343, if we assume she just sucks as scum.

Or it's cabd because of the meta agreeing.

I doubt she would completely not talk about herpartner at all in het semi-readslist.

[Nazarene]

This is annoying. I'm PoEing cabd and you're just telling me that cabd is town because believe me. I think cabd is apt enough to fool you. I also don't understand why it's such a big hassle to let cabd know how you read him. He might adapt, yes, but in the end you'll both turn out to be better players. Plus, it's fun.

Are you saying westeros has better mafia players than us? but yeah, talk zar through with nacho.

You think we are scum and going to kill you, why would I put in this effort? Who do you think is scum if not me and you conclude with nacho it isn't zar either?

[Nazarene]

Do you agree or not that maya's partner is in post 343?

[Nazarene]

The Heads agree that you are likely town. The Heads also have another neighbor shot, which will open up a different QT. The Heads are open to recommendations.

The Heads think that Zar has the highest chance of dying tonight, so we are reluctant to neighborize him. The Heads are both re-reading the thread in order to acquire information about Maya's potential partner.

This Head only skimmed your meta-defense of Cabd because he does not believe that there is any value whatsoever in engaging in tenuous speculation.


-A

[Nazarene]

Aegor and me agree on you, how nice! Aegor just very strongly proposed who he thought was the last scum and I'm going to try and see if I agree in a minute. Just now, I'm gonna answer all your questions.

Oh and about neighbourhoods, I'm not in favor of opening one with either rach or kat because I don't think they're able to convey their reads to me succesfully and analyze as properly as zar and cabd. I'm leaning zar but I'm more or less getting your points on cabd.

[Nazarene]

. She didn't hammer me.

If maya could have, this is a fair point for cabdtown, seeing she and cabd were the only possible other options. In my memory she didn't post inbetween us voting and kat unvoting, though. Gonna check.

You are beating around the bush what exactly made you think cabd is town.

-Challenging ffery on not fully townreading her is liable to make her paranoid. Cabd knows this, and as scum, would be more interested in working around her paranoia, letting her come to a townread at her own pace. As town, Cabd feels ffery

should

be reading him as town and so challenges her on her read even if it will inspire paranoia in her because he's suspicious and figuring her out is more important than heading off suspicion down the road.

-Cabd not really fighting his lynch when it came and instead setting up for after his lynch (remember my townread on ffery is officially gone) also seemed more of a town-Cabd trait than a scum-Cabd trait: town-Cabd doesn't fight his lynch as hard as scum-Cabd does but instead sets up town for success after he's gone aka TownCabd is accept a lynch now, screw over scum later whereas scumCabd in a similar position pushes for the mislynch that will screw him over tomorrow, but not today.

Thanks for this. I now understand the first part and I'm gonna talk this through with Aegor. Second part is something I have once experienced with scumCabd so I gotta hand that to you.

Also, in all your posts you're painting me as seeing a connection between maya and cabd. I don't necessarily see one, but I was just PoEing cabd. Hopefully Aegor's new insights will help me get rid of this problem!

[Nazarene]

Despite the last couple pages of day 2, we are both here with an open mind. PoE was the bulk of our reason for suspecting you, and we haven't PoE'd it down to one player. We're hoping this night's neighborhood posting will do that.

So are we!

You don't seem troubled by the fact that although we entered the night's posting with strong suspicions, I'm answering your questions like I am talking to town.

I'm just satisfied with it. It's the logical thing to do, because you have to see that there is a big chance of us dying if we're town, even if you are entertaining the thought we aren't. You should at least get all our opinions if that happens, because this is the only chance for it to happen. I was afraid you would be stubborn and view yourselves as scumhunting gods but majiffy levels haven't been reached in nacho luckily.

[Nazarene]

If you were extraordinarily weak scum, maybe. But you probably wouldn't want to kill someone who got to L-1 yesterday, someone who you could capitalize paranoia in Katsuki and Cabd about, right? But you don't exactly want to take point on that and just be the quiet neighbor because that's a lot of your towncred (which you're not exactly flush with) burned for no reason.

My strength as scum lies in being townread, not in being manipulative or being convincing in general. If I'd go for winning the game I'd just kill you off, you currently pose the greatest danger to me.

I'm also confused how you can bring up this piece of reasoning when scum-sangres could just kill you as easily as scum-you could kill us...?

You think we're scum but we don't think you are so what does this have to do with anything?

You'd cause a no lynch?
That also seems like a pretty dumb scum strategy!

That's pretty fucking smart strategy

[Nazarene]

Or, 5) We have ways of reaching the outside world even if we die. If you want to dodge the lynch tomorrow, you need something from us, and as it stands right now, there's no way in hell you're getting it.

Uh, we just claim to not be neighbours with you idk

I just fail to see how us-scum killing you would get shtick day 3.

aka if you're hunting for a mislynch look elsewhere because there's no way in hell Rach is getting lynched ever.

I prefer talking to ffery, even though she is a lot less straightforward about things. Just pretend we're town now and don't give a hypothetical scum-us useful advice.

Btw, I'd be quite thrilled to have the opportunity to change my alignment right now and kill you and then try and lead a mislynch on rach, I think I could manage if cabd doesn't step up a sick amount!

[Nazarene]

And just a quick note I'm disgusted with the inaccuracy and narcissism of all the nacho posts up to here.

I'm sorry but there's nothing I can do to change the posts of the past or the posts of the future.
I'm much less obnoxious when I think I'm talking to town, though!

I'm talking about inthread posts!

- Maya's encouraging us to attack our neighbor suggests you aren't a team

Moot point

- Your reach-outs to Zar to do stuff you could townread makes a lot more sense to us based on your having a second neighborizing shot.

Oh hey, that might have been why aegor was pressuring him! I don't think so tho.

Anyway, I'm happy we can work together.

[Nazarene]

Our read on Katsuki is changing, mostly based on feeling Zar is town. If he's town and you're town, then one of our other reads is bad. And that's the read that feels bad for reasons we'll talk about in a bit.

Think about who Kat would night kill, given the Xay kill, and the effort he's put into buddying Nacho. It might not be Zar/Blizzard.

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT AEGOR WAS FIRST YOU JACKASS

I swear if kat turns out to be scum and you're taking the credit *SHAKES FIST VIOLENTLY*

Aegor had other reasons for his read tho, so our reads on kat might complement each other!

[Nazarene]

I think your post gave away we were the neighbourizer with my post directly before it. Not sure if I painted a target on myself otherwise.

I'm sad I didn't read the last ~5 pages in detail because there's a lot of good stuff in there, like katsuki avoiding the maya wagon and cabd being genuine.
Read 486 and see how off the post is.

The maya wagon had just built to L-1 and you just unvoted. Not a comment on taht, while this is the spot where you either defend or attack maya or show your indifference about happenings, at least MENTION the wagon.
Instead, she casts some passive suspicion on Zar and tries to get an old suspect, Rach, back on the forefront with the some of the worst reason ever.

She just avoids the wagon conpletely in every post in the last few pages

[Nazarene]

Oh my I'm so pushing for kat tomorrow and if we die you are pls pls pls

[Nazarene]

Him going after the naz-zar thing is what made me seal the deal on him after the flip, there's just no way scumbuddies can bus each other so greatly.

Atfirst I thought it was a point that was very true and damning for a scum player, but also a shot on very thin ice if not accompanied by something else to scumread the subject; it's a mistake that's possible for town in theory. But his conviction in the point made it too good to be from scum.

P-edit: I hear buddying nacho works as scum, LOL.
He did suddenly back off from the wagon amd I already considered it might be cause of you townreading him, so we're on the same line yay

[Nazarene]

Now I go sleep.

[Nazarene]

It would freak him the fuck out, and I may someday do it purely because it would screw with his model of my scum and town games, but I don't think you'll neighborize Cabd on my say-so. I don't know if I would in this game state.

We still need to talk through Zar. Our little bit of intersection-time today so far has been devoted to discussing you.

Of your non-Zar choices, based on what you've said about your reads, you really don't have any solid town reads among the other candidates.

Rach is a strong town-probability to us, but I don't know how useful she is in a neighborhood. So is Katsuki with the same caveat. I don't know how effective he is with neighborhood play.

I think either of their willingness to work with you will depend on our report card, whether posthumous or not. I think our towncred improved with Maya's flip.

I am here. Will post soon.

-A

[Nazarene]

So, I think very strongly that Kat is the last scum given day-end wagon behavior and other posting, in general. The refuge in audacity argument is a non-starter with me vis-à-vis the Day 1 hammer.

Our neighbor target should be between Cabd and the Zar hydra. I am kind of tempted to do Cabd just to attempt to sort the slot since I accept only a particular set of justifications for town/scum-reads, so having a neighbor does not necessarily help me sort other players. TS may be more flexible in terms of what he considers compelling evidence for reads, so I would happily defer to him if he wants Zar, whom I am definitely town reading.

-A

[Nazarene]

Oh hey, that might have been why aegor was pressuring him! I don't think so tho.

Why was he pressuring Zar?

Because while I already had quite a decent townread on Zar, Aegor didn't. So he wanted to sort him.

We're going to neighbourize cabd. I don't actually think you die if kat is the last scum, but giving us that thing you think will make us immortal would be helpful, I guess?

[Nazarene]

We're not scun!

Bit I'm very drunk rught now!

We'll lynchkat!

And tell cabd stuff!

And die overnight!

[Nazarene]

Interesting. Is this head missing some slip or something that exposes us as the neighborizer?

Why is the NK fascinating? It is exactly the NK that This Head would have chosen: low-info and targeting someone who would never get lynched.

Anyway, Kat should die, obvobv.

-A

[Nazarene]

This Head requests that you keep us hidden for a little bit until I confer with my other Head and we decide how to open the day post-wise. Keeping Katsuki in the dark can only produce interesting reactions.

Once The Heads draft a post, we will get back to you.

-A

[Nazarene]

I have little understanding of the nightkill. It looks like someone is settng up cabd?

But who as scum would really be afraid of rach's play in this game?
And Aegor I disagree, a Rach lynch wasn't completely off the table. I don't see why any scum'd go for low-info over something better.

[Nazarene]

Unless it's zar or something, I don't see why anyone'd kill rach over us or zar.

[Nazarene]

Let's keep katsuki in the dark a while longer.
We don't want to post a lot in the thread atm, if zar gets annoyed, we'll hear. Want to sort cabd first, but he's dodged giving read until american time morning.

Can you ask kat for his reads?

[Nazarene]

He doesn't seem very offput, actually.

Just a thought: maybe rach was killed because scum thought they were the neighbouriser? Your strong townread on her while she hadn't done too much might have contributed towards that thought.

And what are your bases for the kat read? Poe again?

[Nazarene]

That second link is wrong, I think. Anyway, I'm not much into other peoples' meta research's conclusions, but you seem to have good reasons to suspect kat too.
Where's our lovely kat vote?

And I don't understand your comment about the Rack kill?

[Nazarene]

How did you know I don't like meta I'm unfamiliar with?

[Nazarene]

Hmm yeah, that explanation for the Rach kill doesn't make much sense. welp.NKA isn't that great anyway.

And LOL if you see me using cold meta beware :p

I'm not necessarily against meta, but I know that people very often look for the wrong things in meta and if I'm not able to verify if the conclusion that's been reached is a correct one, I prefer to just leave the research. If people talk about games I've played in or players I have played with, I have little problem with meta.

P-edit: what?

[Nazarene]

Interesting!

I find that I myself use this modeling, but that my sample sizes are a bit too small, oftentimes.

And about trajectory, I never really knew what you meant with it. I don't often use it as town to hunt for scum, only when something seems waaay off. I find that other people often reach conclusions in a very different manner than I do. As scum, it's the thing I pay most attention to and it's what nets me the most townreads when I do it correctly, I think. A question for you, have you ever seen something in my scumgame that you would classify as bad trajectory? Disregard newbie 1471 please, I sucked monkey balls there.

We could also continue this convo out of this thread if anyone minds the clutter?

[Nazarene]

Oh hey, that might have been why aegor was pressuring him! I don't think so tho.

Why was he pressuring Zar?

Fully caught up in this thread, but this head is clearly the least gregarious person in the room.

I would rather not have the in-game thread stall too much; this Head will post once Cabd produces interesting info in the hydra's other neighborhood. Nothing that substantial, but enough to generate content and to probe Kat.

And on the meta argument: this Head accepts it in very specific circumstances. For example, the meta argument for Rach-town convinced me (although according to you, sangres, for the wrong reasons). But unless it is something immediately obvious and consistent across games, this Head is extremely wary of it.

-A

[Nazarene]

Imma hold you to that!

[Nazarene]

Problem I'm having with katsukiscum is that she isn't a newbie who's very bad at the game...how would she forget to interact with her buddy? All her explantions make sense and her role even tho a bit nasty (even night?) seems reasonable enough with JK and neighbouriser and something like scum RB or rolecop,..

And zar freaks me the fuck out with his read on kat

It all just feels too easy and zar is opportunistic.

Hmm

[Nazarene]

Fuck I'm even considering Zar telling maya to make that typo on purpose

I think Zar is a great player even tho I've only played with him once before.

[Nazarene]

Kat just feels too helpless to be scum

Fuck me right

[Nazarene]

Let's put pressure on zar?

Pls?

And how is kat's scumgame, do you see hercignoring her buddies like that?

[Nazarene]

Well, hi paranoiaville.

I'm gonna sync with Aegor but I think it's Zar and that snow fucked up for him...
Ever played with snowstorm before?

[Nazarene]

It's gonna be apparent soon enough, I think.

Cabd says that it's between kat and zar for him considering our mutual townreads

Doesn't really elaborate.

[Nazarene]

Aegor hasn't been around tonight. Waiting for him to decide on what to do.

[Nazarene]

Problem I'm having with katsukiscum is that she isn't a newbie who's very bad at the game...how would she forget to interact with her buddy?

This Head is not so sure this is a reason to dismiss katscum; this game has indeed been odd, after all (Kat hammered prematurely D1, for example).

And zar freaks me the fuck out with his read on kat

It all just feels too easy and zar is opportunistic.

Agreed.



Frankly, once the Heads of the Hydra sort Cabd, there is little chance this game will end in a town loss. If Cabd is town, then Kat and Zar can be lynched in either order.

-A

[Nazarene]

Also, I want to milk uncertainty about the neighborizer thing all I can, so although it is hardly a problem if there is a slip, there seems to be no advantage to revealing in-thread ATM since one player from both our neighborhoods will probs be alive tomorrow.

[Nazarene]

I wanted general, meta-based thoughts. When I say general, I mean "Kat often is trigger-happy as town," or "Rach ALWAYS posts walls as scum." That is the only meta I will ever consider. In particular, I have no interest whatsoever in meta that involves how a player "ought" to feel about someone.

-A

[Nazarene]

Sangres, zar's claim is like mine in mistakes

Only this one is even more overexplained

Do you know anyone who would crumb their role that much?

[Nazarene]

He would put in a such role? He seems to have been overexplaining, even tho he started his crumbs right from the start *shrug*

[Nazarene]

Nacho thinks Zar's role sounds like something faraday would add to a game. It's a mostly useless complement to 2 town roles.

So uh, do you see katsuki as town now?

And could you see jk+useless joat vs goons? Having a hard time doing so...

[Nazarene]

Wait, I'm forgetting we count as a PR too...nvm I thought with 2 town roles you meant katsuki and N.

So uh, do you think there's too many town PR's?
How do you feel about kat's claim?

I somehow think an even night tracker makes little sense. Is there any reason for it to be even night? If you think town is too powerful so you want to nerf them, why do you keep the tracker at all? Why not just 1-shot?

And it's a fucking easy claim as well cos it's unconfirmable since there will be no Night 4.
And only having tracked Rach wouldn't hurt his chances as scum.
Couldn't track you cos townread
Couldn't safely track me or zar since we hadn't claimed
Couldn't track cabd cos potentially mislynchable