Team Mafia: Gestalt

[Nachomamma8]

sigh

nacho I have a bad feeling about this first lynch. I think it's going to land on Singer if we soften on espe.h

pedit well, yea, there's that. but why would apparent town protect Victor? mistaken identity?

It's important we leave this game with a solid lynch plan and a solid amount of cred intact. We can't do that if we don't soften on lynches when softening is a good idea.

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Gamma. I want his opinion on that post of CDB's I found really really town.

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And I swear to god if Regfan forms another bad read on Tammy I'm not sure what I'll be able to do with myself.

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Shadoweh: your ISO is so amazing except for this problematic thing called "a town read on TSO". please fix at your earliest convenience.

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And I swear to god if Regfan forms another bad read on Tammy I'm not sure what I'll be able to do with myself.

Like why does it matter that she replaces out over Espe and not Zar? Why is she likelier to replace out over Espe and not Zar as scum?

Of course Oversoul is going to take into account Tammy's reads >.>
But it makes sense for him to form reads of his own in a game he is playing, doesn't it?

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I'm loving your paraphrasing!

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More @ Shadoweh:
Because it seems to me like TSO hasn't really done jack shit except call for a Boon (kind of good?) and suspect Titus for reasons that are truly horrible. I'm very hard-pressed finding anything in there except suspicion of Bulbazak which is equally pretty bad!

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What are your personal thoughts on TSO, Ffery?

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It occurs to me that rolling scum here would have been great for me - with all the big personalities, I could probably slip under the radar.

Then there's him saying things like this and then proceeding to do exactly this.

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TTH, TSO, UT, Aronis actually seems like a reasonable scumgroup. Hmmm.

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I'd scattershot it. I would be planning on flexing to TSO pretty soon, so posting that reasoning now serves to put scumcase in thread and give her more to respond to.

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If anything else, I can't really see CDB being the emotionally manipulative type as scum so his thoughts expressed here would probably be genuine. I do think that CDB-scum would be less engaged in the game than CDB-town and would also be pretty aware of that fact, so I find it a bit difficult to believe that he would respond to Empires post so harshly if he were scum.

If it's not obvious, I find Empire's case concerning. I'm used to questions about my excuses/analysis ratio - that part doesn't bother me so much - but he's weirdly wrong about obvious things like the timeline of my stance on his slot and weirdly rigid in his lack of empathy, which I don't associate with someone genuinely trying to figure things out.

Actually having a LOT of trouble seeing CDB calling empire scum for basic lack of empathy as scum and pushing and following up with said reasoning.

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But whatever. I know Nacho is pushing this. It's becoming a sitewide thing where Nacho is fucking lynching me in every game we play and he's always wrong. I really hope I roll scum in a game he's in and utterly shit on him in revenge.

Ugh.

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Now? I'm looking into refining and reworking it, so maybe not until phase two is complete?

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Why are so many people scum reading Titus? I actually don't understand :/

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#3361 is a readslist I would love explained..

Don't let the Titus wagon go through then!

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oh ffs.

never mind.

GAMMA I think UT would be a better vote than CDB.

I think I disagree.

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Aronis-UT are not a pair.

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I feel an unnecessary amount of hostility coming from UT in general and I am pretty uncomfortable with it in general :/

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And not in a scummy way but in a "usually you're a really nice guy who doesn't give people unwarranted shit so hostility here is causing me to question what I'm doing wrong"

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Who specifically?

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UT and CDB are also the only two on that wagon I could buy actually flipping scum

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Specifically towards us, and I'm wondering what we've done wrong other than typical mafia rhetoric.

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I do too! Let's not push him this time, okay?
I think our best move is endorsing CDB wagon while we form solid thoughts again because I also don't feel particularly excited about aronis lynch :/

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He's not! He was also my strongest town read before he even replaced in solo album

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Sorry you don't have a vote! I'm the worst!

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I'll be right there with you tomorrow morning!

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What one post of CDB's?

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UNVOTE:

Saw something that I liked.
Will sleep on it.

I still think CDB is town for that one post though.

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Why do you suspect Espeonage?
Why DV?

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Suspecting Espeonage for not being interested in the game worries Me because Uncouth Mafia, but I do acknowledge the difference in being completely detached and only appearing when he needs to defend himself

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But it's still one of those cases where I'd be happier in clearer scum motivation in his actions because I don't really think it's there

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It bothers me that he's pushing you for making lazy pushes while his main scum read is Espeonage for role fishing. It bothers me that he doesn't exactly have any strong pushes to speak of (and no sense of frustration in not having any or any particular drive to solve the game). I'm not sure I'd vote him for lynch, though.

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But I don't think letting Titus die for that reason is a very good idea at all.

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#3721 is incredibly incredibly town.

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ActionDan-Shadoweh

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Bulbazak, Cheetory, Oversoul, Gammagooey

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Singersigner, Titus

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GuyInFreezer

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Aronis, DeasVail, Formerfish, ChannelDelibird, Espeonage

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Mastin, TTH, Untrod, Vezok

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Vezok is MS's partner this game

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I feel like Aronis would be an easy read if we put some research into it.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

In this game, his hostility is more cyclical and actually seems aggrvated by things: he has several moments where he shows inclinations towards questioning people and scumhunting.

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He has a bit more analysis in this game, similar questioning vibe in the middle points of his play. He only discredited you hard when you were endorsing the wagon on him, which aligns with his normal town play.

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That last post by CDB felt pretty fucking town :/

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

This is Aronis-scum. I believe there'd a very strong trend in him-scum versus town-him that comes out this game (his towngames all look very similar to his play here).

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And phone is dying. I'll be back.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=61180

Aronis as scum has a tendency to move away from questioning others like he has in this game. The most prominent trait of scum!Aronis seems to be that he gets as many mislynches as possible before going down: he's typically not afraid to vote on a moslynch wagon even when it's a sketchy hammer.

I think Aronis is almost certainly town here.

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Mmmm nvm on the "go for every lynch tell", I misread something. He actually approached pisskop/TSO the exact same way here and in that game.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Another Aronis scumgame, although an outlier because he got bussed to shit.

I think he's town. would you mind meta diving and confirming/denying this?

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I don't think he would have gotten lynched if he didn't self-hammer :/

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I'm around for the final push!

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I think Espeonage might be a good push: let me do the research I wanted to do.

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But please urge gamma towards espeonage

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mastin has softclaimed all over the place and is a bad lynch for that and that alone

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bother him before he goes hopefully

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Spammed about 30 posts in three days, softclaimed power role, had a few small townreads here and there, only push that was at all substantiated was on Wisdom for "going for an easy target".

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Lurked the shit out of the game, had a push on beast for posturing and a townread on me for "not my scum tone".

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Another heavy lurk game, pushed sns because he was an alternate wagon to Espeonage and it was "his responsibility" to see that wagon through to a lynch.

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I'd want Formerfish before DV.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

110 posts in a little less than a month. Posts such as this and this show that he's far more willing to develop cases on people than he is as town. He also seemed to have more consistent tabs on the game even though he wasn't overly active: he had multiple pushes and tended to take potshots often.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Again, 100 and change posts in a month timeframe, doesn't spend that time developing cases in the same way as the other game, but still has tabs on the game, still taking multiple potshots.

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Shadoweh's not voting Aronis: she's voting Espeonage.
Why is Cheetory against the Espeonage lynch?

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Espeonage active as town!

It goes Third Party >>>>>>>> Group Scum > Town.

However over the CYS games I did play as every alignment. I will usually play what I feel gives me the best shot at winning.

My logic here is that given the nature of Greatest Idea, being groupscum is not safe as you don't have any affordances because it is possible to be on your own without any balances generally given to 3rd party. I'd only go scum if I had a strong PR that works better on scum.

But yes, I do prefer anti-town.

This meshes with his "I chose town because I thought it would give me the best chance of winning" post earlier in this game. His high post count this game came from his plan centered around his role: there was also a lot of cryptic crumbing in his posts that I feel could be something he doesn't do as often as scum.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=200

296 posts in about a month and a half: crumbs role in pretty much first post. He very strongly attempts to take a leading role in this game: he's less likely to take potshots and more likely to ask for more votes.

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Btw Cheet, if you really want to die I can tell everyone your sign.

This seems like a strong towntell based on what I've figured out from metadiving, as does him thinking about claiming his sign early to WIFOM scum.

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yeah, probably
we just need a strong scumread somewhere

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i think i'm going in on my full list now

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Actiondan.
Aronis.
Bulbazak.
ChannelDelibird.
Deasvail.
Espeonage.
Formerfish. (Marquis.)
GuyinFreezer.
Mastin2.
Shadoweh.
singersigner. (Empire.) (Zar.)
TellTaleHeart. (Antihero.)
Titus.
Untrod Tripod.
Vezokpiraka.

T--->S
Oversoul. (Tammy.) - I don't really see a possibility of Oversoul flipping scum based on Tammy's play (extremely strong) or Oversoul's play (very strong). The likelihood of two players who strongly prefer town coming in and towning this hard as scum is practically nothing.

Gammagooey - The strong constant pushing after catching his stride is something that I don't see Gammagooey being able to fake as scum: there are also many moments where he makes some very genuine very town pushes-thoughts. He has very fluid reads which is something that takes a very patient scum to be able to fake, and he also hasn't fallen too hard in anyone's shadow and has bucked heads with us often, which adds to the difficulty of faking his play this game. I do not see Gamma flipping scum.

Cheetory6 - Has had an alarming number of incredibly genuine moments (see his strongarming/frustration play at the end of the day today, his questioning of Espeonage) and has kept up his pushing/questioning constantly throughout the entire game.

These three players will not flip scum.

--gap--

singersigner - Her level of engagement compared to her level of engagement in scumgames is absolutely ridiculous: this is the sort of thing that would normally confirm someone as town as a tell standing alone, team mafia or no team mafia. I do find Regfan's contributions in game to be the sort of thing that scum!Regfan would be less inclined to do (especially after he said he was going to stop following the game once Empire was gone). I find Empire's contributions this game to be impressive beyond just OK and I've been pretty cautious about reading Empire since ASOIAF happened. I find his replace-out extraordinarily town. I don't think that he willingly replaces into a scum slot where he has to dodge ffery/Tammy in-game. I can see him being bothered that Zar's slot was being scumread for his actions, I can see him believing that he could bail the slot out the slot as town, I CANNOT see a player who has any pride in their scumgame (Zar) bailing out because he believes he cannot fight the wagon that has been placed on him. Don't forget to compare Empire's play and replace-out in this game with his play and replace-out in the other game he was involved in.

The only reason this read isn't in the conftown conftown slot is because of Mastin's read otherwise. I am still about 95% this slot won't flip scum.


Titus - I love Titus's interactions with ika through GiF (including crumbing her sign to him, telling him he should be reading her as town). I love Titus freaking out over possibly outing Alquin. I think that her interactions with others (ie more cooperative Titus). I believe Titus's interactions with mastin would not be likely to happen if she was scum, and I don't think her insistence in getting us/Mastin to agree on a lynch is scummy (in fact, I think it makes her ridiculously town!). There are also smaller things though, like in #2352 where she comments on never being invited to townblocks and telling mastin that she isn't confirmed town that I think actually are strong towntells for Titus: in that situation, I fully believe scum!Titus would be willing to buddy mastin in exchange for a spot in a townblock, and wouldn't worry about showing that small sign of paranoia shine through. I also don't think she'd waffle on the singer scumread at the end of the day as scum: it would only really serve to buddy up to us (and we're already townreading her + dying).

The only reason this slot isn't 100% is because I've never actually felt confidence in reading Titus before/don't really understand Titus as much as I need to for a read like that. I am still very very very very sure Titus won't flip scum.

--gap--

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Actiondan.
Bulbazak.
ChannelDelibird.
Deasvail.
Formerfish. (Marquis.)
GuyinFreezer.
Shadoweh.
TellTaleHeart. (Antihero.)
Untrod Tripod.


mastin2 - The stubborn read-pushing but relatively low engagement style is a style I've seen from mastin-town a couple times in recent memory but never have seen from mastin-scum (it tends to make her alienated in general playerlists and more likely to be lynched). The incessant crumbing from mastin is also something I've never personally seen from her as scum. There's also the entire mindset behind her "walking deadwoman" posting which, as Regfan said, only makes it more difficult for her to explain being alive at endgame (and scum-mastin is certainly aiming to endgame here). Some of her stranger reads (Cheetory-scum, singer-scum, I disagreed with DV-scum once but I don't disagree as strongly there anymore) also are scumreads that won't be getting lynched anytime soon and also only serve to alienate her from the rest of the playerlist, which again reinforces that townread. The general mindset behind her play is very very distinctly not scum.

Vezokpiraka - There's a pretty good tell that can't be talked about this game, unfortunately. Tracing TTH to DV is actually a pretty good towntell: sure, maybe the scumteam figured that most players are going to be detecting and decided that tracing and claiming it would look town as fuck and decided to give it to vezok since he already knew someone's sign anyone. This is possible: I don't really find it overly likely. His aggressive push on TTH after the Trace on her (and continued pushing of her when he moves of the wagon and interactions with mastin after that wagon falls down) also feels very town. Things like the evolution of his mastin read have a surprisingly good progression behind them I don't think vezok would really be that focused on faking.

Aronis - Meta thoughts already detailed. Copper taking specific interest in TTH and TTH alone (to the point where he encouraged a push initially, and then backed off before the wagon began disintegrating) seemed pretty fucking town and I don't really think scum!copper would expect TTH to townread him from that interaction alone.

Espeonage - Mostly for the way that he claimed early, treated his VT claim (attempted to WIFOM scum by claiming his sign, offered to claim Cheetory's). Both scenarios follow the cryptic way he's generally treated his role in other games where he's been engaged as a PR. I also still like his interaction with Tammy.

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the next chunks are probably going to come much, much slower but i'm still working on them

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406: I believe that CDB was one of the first people to bring up the "let's not Bane #1 scummiest" theory, which makes sense with CDB claiming investigative PR down the road.

And reiteration of that in 920 makes a weak towntell into a strong one.

~~I notice this push from Westeros that CDB is somehow scummy because they don't believe CES would take a position that vezok is hard to read because he's actually transparent: 1) there is no real scum motivation for scumCDB to bane vezok over anyone else, 2) I don't think CES would lie about his opinion on whether a player is unreadable or not because that's dumb~~

-I do think that CDB's push on Empire because he seemed to have a lack of empathy was town: I've since read up a little bit on CDB's emotions in scumgames, but emotional manipulation of this level is still not something I could very easily coming from CDB at all.

-His push to out Aronis's sign before he died was additionally very town.

-CDB holding the same top 5 townreads I do feels good, especially since he talks about having a LOT of confidence in his townreads but not a lot of confidence in his scumreads (which is additionally how I'm approaching the game).

CDB is a strong townread for me.

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Oh! In general, I feel CDB's pushes on his scumreads haven't been all that impressive but I also think that's the nature of a game where there are 16 town and 4 scum and pages pages pages everywhere. I feel like his townreads are better than I remembered, his thoughts in general have come across as pretty town, his claim in retrospect makes sense.

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[*]Actiondan.
Bulbazak.
Deasvail.
Formerfish. (Marquis.)
GuyinFreezer.
Shadoweh.
Untrod Tripod.

TTH: 1486 seems like a strange approach to take to the game if scum: it's a hell of a claim to make, it's not like she couldn't have fought the wagon off her without claiming, and it seems strange she didn't even so much as try. Her scumhunting isn't particularly terrible although it'd be lovely if she was more engaged: her comment on DV's lynch pool is okay, #2492 as a reiteration of her power continues to be town as shit, Anti's reachout to mastin because of townread is fairly town, turning on her strongest defender (mastin) is additionally very town, and in general, the attitude she's put into the thread so far makes a lot of sense from a player who would be confirmed town eventually. Even if she doesn't confirm herself tomorrow (since scum roleblockers ARE a thing), I wouldn't immediately lynch her.

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strange coming from scum: if she's confirmed town Day 2, doesn't matter if she fights the wagon or not. scum typically don't want to make a last resort claim like that one.

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Could you ask DV if he has about 20 minutes and then text me if he responds?

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I don't understand the purpose of Shadoweh's beginning sort-of push on Tammy she begins in 207. Scum-Shadoweh knows that she is probably expected to townread Tammy. Scum-Shadoweh knows that implying Tammy is scum is going to bring Tammy's ire in her direction. Scum-Shadoweh additionally isn't going to get any towncred from a push at all if she immediately backs off.

PAUSE FOR DV

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First could you ask him to give me his current scumpool (aka people that he thinks has an okay to decent chance of flipping scum)?

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Her push on singer actually looks pretty decent: it's a pretty natural response to defend a townread in that way, Titus is a strange player to buddy up to because even being mostly townread she doesn't have a particularly large amount of sway, and I rather very much liked the #3 paragraph of 1904, particularly the bit of "you won't be lynching me today".

PAUSE FOR DV

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Next, list of people who absolutely won't flip scum, please.

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Gamma

This read in particular seems strange: I don't remember the specifics of the read because I haven't exactly recently read up on you lately but a lot of Gamma's pushes have felt very very honest which I feel is the thing you tend to hone in on the quickest. Why do you think he's scum? (or would you mind linking me to your case on him because i'm trying to do a bunch of stuff at once and saved time is really great?)

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This post by Shadoweh also feels pretty town and is again a good point: I feel like CDB's worst scumread probably was Shadoweh because it was formed for apparently no reason and I don't think scum would be likely to rail the hell out of someone because they forgot to include them in a scumlist.

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Since Dan's around, can you ask him to do an ISO on Shadoweh if he has time?

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Espeonage

1) Why?
2) Why aren't you doing anything to stop it? I mean yeah, CDB is claimed PR and you don't want to lynch him and we're really close to deadline, but it seems like voting one of your top 5/6 townreads would cause some sort of reaction, no?

I know you've talked about the Marquis read a lot and it's probably mostly been beaten to death but could you talk about it again? I'm afraid that he could/would fake some of the self-conscious stuff he's put in thread (stuff that I found pretty town like "how do you even scumhunt?"), I'm not really sure his !!! gimmick approach to the game was less town-motivated and scum-motivated, and while I found he did a bunch of stuff that was good in regards to it was town-feeling, I don't remember any of his scum/town pushes being better than marginally okay.

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Apology to Espy in 2688 seems pretty solid.

Oh. You picked one of my only friends playing left. I wish I could disagree that big post felt weird.

And this. I didn't see this post before but holy shit does it read town.\

The STRONG townread when Dan started reacting feels nice, as do most of the interactions with Dan in general.

I think I started this reread with the mindset that I was only townreading Shadoweh because I like Shadoweh as a person but I do feel pretty strongly about her being town so it's nice that I have a good read on her instead of one of those "oh I think she's town here are reasons she's town" conf-bias reads. I BELIEVE.

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Actiondan.
Bulbazak.
Deasvail.
Formerfish. (Marquis.)
GuyinFreezer.
Untrod Tripod.

Deas: He called you town beyond town in the early game when you were posting a lot. Then, after you went inactive, he really didn't have any significant interactions with you for about 10 days, ended up forming a pretty strong scumread on singer, formed strong townreads elsewhere, lynched someone. I don't think that it's unreasonable at all for his read on you to degenerate like that over a long period of time: why do you disagree? Do you think he specifically should have found recent reasons to townread you even though I haven't?

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Gamma's new reason for finding Deas scum was his scumlist being Bulba and a pile of lurkers.

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Dan has claimed Power Role and is being vouched for by Shadoweh. I like his reactions, I think he's probably town even though I'm not as confident in Dan-town as I am in Shadoweh town. I think Marquis is town in the Marquis-Deas interaction. I noticed that Marquis reached out and sort of attached himself to Deas early: I don't really think that Marquis does that as scum or that the two of them do it as scum-scum. I felt Marquis's side of the interactions felt very very honest while DV's didn't exactly excite me to the same extent. I don't like DV's reads at this point in time: the sudden townread on Espeonage when he didn't have that townread before seems fishy as all hell.

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Bulbazak I'm having pretty serious doubts about BUT he should be dead eventually thanks to scum knowing his sign and all, so I think that one is liable to sort itself out (if he's day by Minor Day 4 or so, kill the shit out of him). I think that the slot could get very very readable with mollie's involvement so reaching out to her is probably the best possible way to read this slot/propel it to strong town if it deserves to be there.

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Dan softclaimed power role.

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I think UT's scum, full stop. I wish we lynched him earlier: he had genuine pieces in the moment, but nothing overly spectacular.

I'm feeling uneasy about GIF: ika on his own is very very readable (if he posts a lot, he's town) and has shown interest in the thread so him getting pulled in the game to talk and actually do things would be absolutely fantastic.

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@Westeros:
I don't know if any of you have played with Titus before but a lot of the moonlogic being railed is pretty typical moonlogic. I'd love love love for you to go through her past games to get a bit more familiar with you because her scum play really doesn't look like this. I wish I could get more specific but it's hard trawling through your ISO for specific scum Titus cases but all I can say is I have a very strong townread here, please at least reconsider.

Re: Shadoweh:
1) We agreed with Tammy on Zar. I don't really find it scummy to agree with Tammy in a situation where her passion is CLEAR and OUT THERE while Zar's is pretty much not there at all. I don't know why on earth you found that tone scummy but it reads pretty genuine to me and also I don't really think that "oh she was mean to Zar" is a particularly good point. The voteswitch from Empire was talked about: she said that she found it unlikely Empire would willingly replace into a scum slot, which is probably what that initial vote switch was about. The later townread was likely her finding reasons in Empire's posts to townread the slot.

2) Booo.

3) TTH is probably not flipping scum.

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why is it 18 votes and not 19?

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oh and not that it matters but my personal scumpool would be gif/formerfish/ut/bulbyzak

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I wouldn't lynch Espeonage tomorrow if no lynch.

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UT, why choose to make that post instead of comment on anything that we put in the thread prior?

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tick tock goes the clock
urging the darkness closer
to dead QTs in the sky

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tick tock goes the clock
darkness urging us
to dead QTs in the sky

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tick tock goes the clock
darkness urging us
to dead QTs in the sky

nevermind i'm just horrible at haikus :'(

@singer: >.>

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do you think I should be impressed that you wrote a lot of words, or am I supposed to fall on my knees at what you have to say because you lucked into getting your role PM revealed?

i'm not asking to be impressed
i'm asking for you to engage our reads and tell us where we're going wrong in townreads

but needless aggression when all we're doing is reading you wrong is nice too

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Mollie STARTED.

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spoilers spoil
my mystery, my wonder
yay dead qt!!!

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i love you ut

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yeah i figured they wouldn't make it in the thread
how did you enjoy your first team mafia experience?

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it does make sense!

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tensions are high yeah but that's kinda what makes it fun for me
sometimes players taking games seriously have absolutely ridiculously town looking games and i really love seeing that: it seems to happen the most in these kinds of environments

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yeah, it didn't really stand up later in the game
and i could also definitely see bulba asking mollie to contribute to his game specifically so he could look townier

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hito is a jerk
i hope everyone gets bored
and replaces out

[Nachomamma8]

Zoraster certainly implied we'd be getting spoilers from the great dead QT in the sky.

[Nachomamma8]

Cheery flipping town is :'(.

If CES is scum he's playing well.