Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[Not_Mafia]

Of all the things to pop out of the woodwork for kthnxbye picks people being cleared

[Kthxbye]

just want it explained how they are "cleared".

Why don't you try doing....ANYTHING...productive instead of snide fucking jabs all game?

[Not_Mafia]

lol

[Not_Mafia]

carrot/kthnxbye/?

[Beefster]

Messenger Momrangal gets blocked by me thinking that she's scum. Messenger is undoubtedly a town role and she claimed her target/role before I claimed mine. The only way that Momrangal can be scum is if I am too. (Hint: I'm not)

Dino is a bit more of a stretch. I really can't say he's conftown, but the general situation suggests he is.

VOTE: Carrot and Stick

We are NOT lynching Momrangal today. I accidentally confirmed her as town.

[Kthxbye]

yeah, if I play another game with you, it'll be too soon.

[Not_Mafia]

I'm sorry you drew scum

[Beefster]

carrot/kthnxbye/?

The third could actually by acryon,

especially

if C&S flips scum. She had every opportunity to fully bus him today, but did not, instead going after conftown Momrangal.

the worst is also plausible from my POE.

[Beefster]

@Not_Mafia: Are you Mr Saturn? [/joke]

[Kthxbye]

Here's the deal. like you said, you both could be scum. It's a super strong strat to come up with at night. It's also risky as it links the two of you.

You are not confirmed, thus she is not confirmed.

I'm just saying that throwing confirmed around like that doesn't make it true, especially to anyone not you (if you're town). I don't know you're town yet.

[Kthxbye]

I'm sorry you drew scum

make a case or stfu.

[Not_Mafia]

Care to comment on mastina's claim kthnxbye? Or are you just gonna continue your discredit on everyone pushing her?

[Beefster]

Here's the deal. like you said, you both could be scum. It's a super strong strat to come up with at night. It's also risky as it links the two of you.

You are not confirmed, thus she is not confirmed.

I'm just saying that throwing confirmed around like that doesn't make it true, especially to anyone not you (if you're town). I don't know you're town yet.

Go ahead and place your bets.

[Kthxbye]

Also, C&S may or may not be scum, but we aren't lynching them before we lynch acryon. Notice he's letting all this other shit play out and remaining silent yeah?

I can't prove that's what he's doing as he hasn't posted anywhere else since the end of D1, but my gut tells me it's so.

[Momrangal]

carrot/kthnxbye/?

The third could actually by acryon,

especially

if C&S flips scum. She had every opportunity to fully bus him today, but did not, instead going after conftown Momrangal.

the worst is also plausible from my POE.

No, mastina is going after crayon hard and Mastina doesn't bus

[Momrangal]

Or was, at least yesterday

[Not_Mafia]

Also, C&S may or may not be scum, but we aren't lynching them before we lynch acryon. Notice he's letting all this other shit play out and remaining silent yeah?

I can't prove that's what he's doing as he hasn't posted anywhere else since the end of D1, but my gut tells me it's so.

The awkward moment where you prove your own theory wrong in the same post

[Not_Mafia]

Scum team clearly had a discussion last night about mislynching acryon and thought it would be easy. Now kthnxbye doesn’t know how to handle the Mastina situation and so is just avoiding it and throwing whatever shit he can think of at acryon and hoping it sticks

[Carrot and Stick]

Messenger is undoubtedly a town role

Okay, making a slight substitution from the original quote, but:

I need information about the gladiate ability, is it inherintly scum, town, or NAI?

Alignment: any

A Mailman (or Courier or Messenger) is a role that can send a message to another player at Night.

This role can be of any alignment.

Especially in a role madness game, repeat after me.

Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.

Role does not equal alignment.
Possessing a role does not make one inherently town or scum. Fuck, my role's more a scum role than a town role and yet I am town this game.

Do you know what does determine alignment?

USAGE of role.

PLAY determines alignment.

Play > Role. 100% of the time. Always.

Momrangal's play is just about the most possible scum-driven play in existence. There is zero town motivation. There is a self-explanatory, self-evident scum motivation.

[Not_Mafia]

I personally don’t know anyone who would put a scum messenger that looks like town in a game, only a fool would do such a thing

[Carrot and Stick]

Funnily enough, you know what's also listed on that page?

Use and Power

If the communication aspect is utilized to its fullest

, this role can be conditionally considered a fair bit weaker than Neighborizer. Since the power of Neighborizer itself is dependent on the player's skill, Courier's value is even more dependent on the player's skill or the value of the information the player has at its disposal.

LITERALLY WRITTEN INTO THE WIKI IS THE OPTIMAL USAGE OF THE ROLE AS A VARIANT ON NEIGHBORIZER.
LITERALLY WRITTEN INTO THE WIKI IS THAT IT IS USEFUL FOR A MASON GAMBIT STYLED GAMBIT.
LITERALLY WRITTEN INTO THE WIKI IS THAT IT IS A COMMUNICATION ROLE BEST USED AS TOWN TO COORDINATE.

[Carrot and Stick]

She had every opportunity to fully bus him today

*ahem*

VOTE: acryon.

Point out where this has moved.
(It hasn't.)

Notice he's letting all this other shit play out and remaining silent yeah?

Much as I'd love to approve of this point, I cannot.

If acryon had been active on site, now we're talkin', not necessarily scum but a fairly good indicator it's possible at the very least.
If acryon was IN THE GAME and yet doing very little/nothing, then fuck yes that's scum.

Sadly, while he is guilty of many crimes, these are not among them.

[Carrot and Stick]

I personally don’t know anyone who would put a scum messenger that looks like town in a game, only a fool would do such a thing

Subject: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Legacy (Game Over)

Living:]4.

Shahrizai

mykonian was

Voldemort, Mafia Whisperer

, who survived and won the game.

Hey so like.
You know where mykonian's title comes from, right?

It's from a fucking scum Messenger role.

[Not_Mafia]

Mathdino will agree with me

[Almost50]

OK.

@Mastina: Please give

the shortest sufficient answer

(I really don't want to read a wall, and I most certainly won't. Just a FYI, I literally SKIP any post you do since -and during- SU2 and I only get informed of what you say either by my eye accidentally catching a phrase while I'm scrolling down or when someone else responds and quotes it).

So, what happens if:

We lynch acryon and he flips Town?
We lynch mom and she flips Town?
We lynch me and I flip Town?

How do your reads change in each case. (I think the best readable answer would be to post 3 read lists, but I will accept a 3-lones explanation for each case of the 3 as well). Thank you.