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What do you mean you're unable to powerplay this? It feels like you're trying to undersell yourself.In post 30, Mathdino wrote:other than that i am going to be painfully unable to powerplay this
i am somewhat regretting joining
regardless, postie is most likely scum of the substantial posts so far
cheeky seems town
How are you so sure that what's going on with postie/rc is SvS? I'm thinking they share an alignment based on pg1.
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised. Too early for me to tell with RC though.In post 33, northsidegal wrote:paranoid theory – postie/rc scumteam and that entire interaction was all theater.-
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Can the hydras please sign their posts?
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I liked her SvS thought, it was better than math pushing postie but then ignoring her interaction with you altogether. Why does this ping you?In post 49, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
north you dont know how hard it was to repress my voting impulses after seeing this post since the moment i called postie townie rc pinged me on discord to shut up lmfaoIn post 33, northsidegal wrote:paranoid theory – postie/rc scumteam and that entire interaction was all theater.
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RC is that fire/mulch hydra town in your opinion? What do you make of the kokichi interaction with that slot?-
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Do we believe that replace out AtE? I've caught up thinking they were obv. scum, but I don't think mulch/fire scum would ever want to concede so easily? Especially with RC in the game. I'll wait on the replacement.
Dino looks pretty town, but I'm worried because this dude has a badass scum game. At least he's not numbering all his points which is more AI than the validity of his points lol. I also 100 percent agree about the anti-town environment, although it looks like things will get quieter :/
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I'm wary of RC because that ego spam earlier on looks too familiar. Both heads of that hydra started off way too aggressive and now Kat is looking better so it's like good cop/bad cop play. While I did agree with the fire hydra's read dissonance being scummy, it was hypocritical to neg them for it because I see two different perspectives on NSG coming from that slot. Hypocrisy in itself probably NAI and I'm going to stop pretending I know how to read them...
I think postie seemed more natural in her responses to the push from RC/Kat but what I don't get is why the doctor would be more scummy than the poisoned player from a mech spec PoV??
I was leaning town on Kokichi but Maki locktowned that slot with her entrance.
I don't know what to make of NSG, I don't see what RC sees and it bothers me that they say she'll become obv. town but are insulting people people who aren't SRing her rn? I feel like scum NSG is really awkward and lurky and I don't see that here. Her first couple of posts were pretty shoddy but her rebuttal posts seem like normal NSG. NGL I'm semi scared RC will yell at me if I don't sheep him and NSG is scum; But that's how I feel so soz.
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Call it a soulread Do you disagree?In post 277, Mulch wrote:
Why maki so high?In post 268, CheekyTeeky wrote:This is where I'm at:
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Wtf there are two of these??In post 284, NicoRobin wrote:Someone heal me, please. It will help the town if someone does.-
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In PYP she pretty much avoiding the thread while I was in the game (I replaced in and out) unless I dragged her out. I was super mad because I thought she was scum but was blind sighted by a noisy toxic player and left.In post 287, Mathdino wrote:
Dost thou have direct experience with northscumgoon to be able to say this? It seems unlike NSG as any alignment to avoid putting herself out there. She knows that talking and making observations is how to gather townreads as scum.In post 285, CheekyTeeky wrote:Dino has a point, but why would scumNSG be like "possible SvS" wouldn't scumNSG just avoid putting herself out there like that? NSG what do you make of the scumreads on you?
As the day goes on I'll do another once-over of Pick Your Power to compare her entrances.
Why Mulch?
Anyway the mulch read is like a residual feel from the hydra, I think Fire can obv town which he hadn't in so many posts and then he replaced out weirdly. I don't like that it felt like they were just throwing out votes to see what stuck, like looking for wagons instead of scumhunting, and the ego battle with RT was just bad so there's at least one scum in there imo because it benefits scum for the thread to be spammed as town get pissed off and lose motivation. I felt like Kat was the one trying to calm it down so mulch > RT rn.-
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I said I was already town leaning you but Maki seems Maki nothing awkward. I liked how you approached NSG from the start and how you're obviously trying to solve the game without ulterior motives that I can see. Ugh I suck at explaining TRs so make of that what you will.In post 289, Supreme Caregiver wrote:
Maki has only posted like 3 times, none with any substance. Why do you townread us?In post 283, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Call it a soulread Do you disagree?In post 277, Mulch wrote:
Why maki so high?In post 268, CheekyTeeky wrote:This is where I'm at:
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Here. How would RT know that? Was it in their role PM that "there is a 1-shot healer in the game" or?In post 128, RadiantTroubadour wrote:rc obviously does have reason though, is someone instantly burning a one-shot PR on page 2 at least not a little odd in most circumstances? even if it was the "correct" play for her as town, i dont see it unreasonable to at least think town tries to get some baseline on the gamestate before diving in-
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Yes exactly that's why I said early on I felt like you guys shared an alignment. I don't know if you're all scum yet, but I could totally see where NSG was coming from.In post 302, RadiantTroubadour wrote:1) With the role PM I had and my grasp of setup spec it was implied to me that the heal would end up being one shot without being explicitly stated.
If you're implying TMI, you mean that I had access to that information which means you're implying what exactly, that Postie is my scumpartner?
I guess I can buy your setup spec lead to that conclusion? I suck at set up spec so no idea how you worked that out.
At the end of your push on Postie it looked like RC TR her. Is that how you see it?-
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PFFFFFT! This is disingenuous. I can't back this up without wandering into ongoing game discussion so please.In post 302, RadiantTroubadour wrote:Mafia's not that simple and you know it especially when people like Mulch are involved. I don't happen to like his slot at all and I would be happy to lynch it but to say that there has to be scum between us is disingenuous.-
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Stop with this, it makes me dread trying to get a read on you when you act out. :/In post 303, RadiantTroubadour wrote:If you want to vote me then vote me. If I'm going to have to play self defense all game my reads and play will suffer.
Can you give some reads apart from NSG maybe mulch scum?
Pedit ok I'll have a look-
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I don't understand the first part.In post 311, RadiantTroubadour wrote:Bluntly I think that I should be locktowned because if Yume had claimed first and been autohealed all of a sudden scum is completely fucked in this game.
It's kind of the point: I don't think that I can, with my aptitude at scum, 'convince' you that I am town without part of that 'convincing' being simply making you not want to push me.Stop with this, it makes me dread trying to get a read on you when you act out. :/
Can you give some reads apart from NSG maybe mulch scum?
Pedit ok I'll have a look
Having people not want to push on me because it'll be hell is sometimes the best that I can do.
I want to town read your explanation because it doesn't contain "you're shit at reading me" lol-
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Ohhh I think I get it!In post 313, RadiantTroubadour wrote:We die at the end of the day if we are not healed: if Yume had claimed first and asked to be healed and Postie had instahealed her and we were scum, all of a sudden scum is down a player on day 1.
I think that's an insane amount of swing. At least if Postie had only one target for the heal it becomes a question of whether I can convince her to use it, which would be acceptable as scum imo.-
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Agree with this.In post 314, Postie wrote:NicoRobin is Yume?
Also, it would make sense to have a scum role that benefits from being healed as well as a town role, right? Because like if that's the case then Nico is probscum.-
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Oh dumb maybe it's in protest to the Sheep ban. He could've had a restriction where he needed to be voted to post.In post 322, RadiantTroubadour wrote:UCV is flaking as fuck right now, don't think it's AI at all
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This ain't a turbo boo so gtfo.In post 337, Mulch wrote:And no offense but your reads are horrendous at least in turbos
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In post 287, Mathdino wrote:
Dost thou have direct experience with northscumgoon to be able to say this? It seems unlike NSG as any alignment to avoid putting herself out there. She knows that talking and making observations is how to gather townreads as scum.In post 285, CheekyTeeky wrote:Dino has a point, but why would scumNSG be like "possible SvS" wouldn't scumNSG just avoid putting herself out there like that? NSG what do you make of the scumreads on you?
As the day goes on I'll do another once-over of Pick Your Power to compare her entrances.
Why Mulch?
This is what my are you scared comment was referring to NSG. I did like your response though.In post 301, Mathdino wrote:@CT: Unless you think NSG is specifically scared of you, I'm more concerned with NSG's openings than her midgame slumps
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I've been more than clear in my sorting. What do you usually expect me to do?In post 375, northsidegal wrote:i feel like cheeky has been commenting on people moreso than trying to sort them, which goes against what i normally expect her to do – granted, it's been a while since i've really played a full game with cheeky, but i feel like i still have a good idea of her playstyle.-
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Idk I can't see Math hard bussing from the start under little pressure on either slot. I think it makes more sense for one of the two to be scum.In post 379, RadiantTroubadour wrote:so my question is do you believe that Mathdino/NSG makes sense because that's what I'm thinking about rn
VOTE: Math-
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I think we've both evolved greatly since your first newbie game. I've played a few games since and I've definitely tried to be friendlier in general because the near-misslynches were getting annoying lol. The reaction tests still happen just on a subtler level now.In post 384, northsidegal wrote:
reaction tests, jumping on things early to see where they lead even if it's not the most meaningful of tells, things like that. reading through i felt like there was a difference that's kind of hard to verbalize. i felt like you were more commentingIn post 381, CheekyTeeky wrote:
I've been more than clear in my sorting. What do you usually expect me to do?In post 375, northsidegal wrote:i feel like cheeky has been commenting on people moreso than trying to sort them, which goes against what i normally expect her to do – granted, it's been a while since i've really played a full game with cheeky, but i feel like i still have a good idea of her playstyle.onthings than talkingtopeople, although rereading your iso perhaps less so than i initially thought.
i think i remember you getting frustrated that that style got you scumread a lot – would you say you still play like that normally or am i out of date here?-
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I can see what you mean. If it was just one who would you say it was?In post 383, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
like this post is so bad that I'm thinking there's a decent chance it's SvS and mathdino's pressure on NSG makes the most sense in a SvS universe I thinkNo but that's the thing. It was a bad point, and given the pace of the game and the players already willing to go after me, it was fanning a flame that shouldn't have been fanned in the first place.
I would've understood if you, for example, pressure-wagoned me (like Cheeky), or pressure-interrogated me for more info. But you floated an idea out there in an already unstable gamestate that would only add more noise.
Pedit case incoming don't hold your breath though.
Pedit pedit if you think this isn't my town meta I can't do much. Like I actually don't know what reaction you're trying to get out of me that's AI?-
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No you're not misreading me in a way that I'd think was intentionally misrepping I just think there are a lot of factors to consider in every town game and they're all different if you read them, but the ones you seem familiar with explain why you're trying to read me the way you are now. I hate self meta but I think my scum games kind of indicate I'm town here more than my town games if that makes sense?In post 393, northsidegal wrote:
i'm not trying to get a reaction out of you – i'm really just asking you if what i'm saying about your playstyle is correct. like i said, i'm trying to not misread you. even if you're scum i expect it to be the kind of thing that's pointless or risky to lie about.In post 389, CheekyTeeky wrote:Pedit pedit if you think this isn't my town meta I can't do much. Like I actually don't know what reaction you're trying to get out of me that's AI?-
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I can't wait for that day! I think I tried it on MU lolIn post 398, RadiantTroubadour wrote:Cheeky I feel like someday you're going to be scum and pocket me hard and I'll get really badly burned.-
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No. I'll shoot you for sure XDIn post 409, Mulch wrote:Hey cheeky if I give you an Ita shot do u promise not to shoot me-
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I'm not I said I'll make a case but your posts look town but seem scummy af on further reflection. I just can't be bothered analyzing and putting it into words rn but it will come within the next 12 hours.In post 407, Mathdino wrote:
cheeky stop ignoring meIn post 387, Mathdino wrote:
You've yet to explain this read on me outside of disliking my opening.In post 382, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Idk I can't see Math hard bussing from the start under little pressure on either slot. I think it makes more sense for one of the two to be scum.In post 379, RadiantTroubadour wrote:so my question is do you believe that Mathdino/NSG makes sense because that's what I'm thinking about rn
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Strong town.In post 417, RadiantCowbells wrote:Cheeky, read on me?-
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Nah seriously that setup spec stuff would've been a good plot for scum you and Postie to cast doubt on Yume and people pushing you. I don't see scum motivation in how you played that. I liked your reaction to my SR, plus you seem less ego driven than I'd expect from a scum you, like you're actually asking for input from me.-
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Ok so going over Dino's ISO his entrance is awkward and then he backtracks on his initial vote because lolmemes. I didn't like the unvote instead of a new vote, it felt like he was too careful about stepping on toes whereas I'd expect town him to make a new vote during RVS.
Then from 159 he complains about activity giving himself an out for lurking. And then votes again this time on NSG, this bothers me because NSG can become obv town but Math and RT gave her no time to do so, which was their main issue with her, that and as Dino said later on that she encouraged his wagon or something which is scummy because that's clearly not what she intended to do and it seems too self aware, like why is he panicking about a wagon in RVS?
177, 183 is his response to fire's push which was kind of a eff off I'm lurking you're terribad post. I don't know what to make of one SR pushing the other, I don't think a random early bus is out of the question for mulch/fire though, it also weirded me out that they kept returning to Math but that's for another case.
189,194, 198 more eh about the activity level.
203 takes a stab at casting shade on RT but in a really passive way. Scared much?
212 his first attempt to put a reason to his SR on NSG but the whole thing seems personally manipulative and stretchy, it reads to me like: "I know you're better than this so you must be scum"
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I've explained it exactly as it is :/In post 427, RadiantTroubadour wrote:I mean I realize this is pretty unfair to you if you're actually reading me correctly but I'm finding it super hard to grok you having us as strong town.
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All of this has legitimately been answered I don't know why you're splitting hairs on a TR of you? You're reminding me of mumble right now. You're never satisfied with any read I give of you. Like actually read my ISO and my progression if it doesn't make sense then vote me or help me find scum.In post 429, RadiantCowbells wrote:What was it about my approach to the Yume/Postie situation that you townread? Are you still going off of us being 100% same alignment?
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I'm sorry but how tf am I not obv town to you rn?
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Using that same set-up spec logic, what are your thoughts on Yume and Postie?In post 434, Mathdino wrote:literally yes, i made multiple posts about being scared in the scenario that RT rolled scum in a micro
i also dislike the fact that he cultivated a town meta of being unpushable (or he'll mislynch you) which covers his scum meta making people scared to push him
the effect still exists
that said i've setup spec'd myself into townreading him anyway so we're good now-
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Can you expand on this so I see what you're seeing?In post 452, RadiantTroubadour wrote:And I scumread a lot of the way kokichi engaged me so-
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Wtf? Why are you assuming I'm implying it's AI?In post 457, Supreme Caregiver wrote:
Because we haven't read or been on sufficiently since then. Still don't understand what not posting a lot has to do with a townread one person gave. Activity is NAIIn post 449, northsidegal wrote:caregiver, what changed your mathdino read / why unvote completely?
i think cheeky was more implying that you were coasting after getting townread and it's strange to me that you interpreted it any other way. why would a townread on you from her make you scared to post?In post 424, Supreme Caregiver wrote:
Yes, because your singular read will effect our gameplay so much that we are scared to post.In post 422, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm uncomfortable that Kokomaki is quiet after my TR on them.
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VOTE: NicoRobin play or die.
RC yeah mulch I'm down to lynch him closer to EOD if nothing changes, I'm starting to waiver on Math but he's still second biggest at this point.
Kokichi I was voting them incase they had a post restriction where they had to be voted before they could post, I saw it in an Alisae game. It'd be hilarious if he couldn't post until D2 or something but apparently he's just flaking atm.-
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Lol so my implication that you were quiet since my TR was correct because you weren't here right?In post 471, Supreme Caregiver wrote:
You implied I was quiet since then. But the only time we've been quiet is the past 2 days we weren't here.In post 463, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Wtf? Why are you assuming I'm implying it's AI?In post 457, Supreme Caregiver wrote:
Because we haven't read or been on sufficiently since then. Still don't understand what not posting a lot has to do with a townread one person gave. Activity is NAIIn post 449, northsidegal wrote:caregiver, what changed your mathdino read / why unvote completely?
i think cheeky was more implying that you were coasting after getting townread and it's strange to me that you interpreted it any other way. why would a townread on you from her make you scared to post?In post 424, Supreme Caregiver wrote:
Yes, because your singular read will effect our gameplay so much that we are scared to post.In post 422, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm uncomfortable that Kokomaki is quiet after my TR on them.
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In post 473, Supreme Caregiver wrote:How is it a push for stating what you literally just said. Look at activity. We talked a lot the days we were here, the last 2 days we weren't so we didn't talk.
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It feels like you're panicking here. Your logic is bad on all counts, you've said you were quiet because you weren't here but then you've made a lot of posts so how are you quiet? Are you actually reading your posts?In post 474, Supreme Caregiver wrote:We still have the 3rd or 4th most posts despite not being here for 2 days. So how exactly were we quiet?
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Why not both?In post 495, Supreme Caregiver wrote:Considering it's only 2 scum I think 1 scum is in Math/Mulch prob not both but those are my 2 big "yes you can die" atm.-
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They're bs because they're failing? I got the same PM. Koki I think we should stop talking to each other, the constant miscommunication is getting annoying.In post 523, Supreme Caregiver wrote:Also can confirm we got a PM saying we got an ITA shot. Percentage was undisclosed.
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In post 526, Mathdino wrote:Hey mulch if you give me a ITA I'll shoot cheeky back
That shot was horribadIn post 525, Mulch wrote:
What previous reasonsIn post 521, CheekyTeeky wrote:D: these ITA's are bs.
VOTE: Mulch why are you only asking about a scum read on you now? Can you please respond to my previous reasons?In post 267, CheekyTeeky wrote:Do we believe that replace out AtE? I've caught up thinking they were obv. scum, but I don't think mulch/fire scum would ever want to concede so easily? Especially with RC in the game. I'll wait on the replacement
Who's your biggest SR mulch?In post 292, CheekyTeeky wrote:Anyway the mulch read is like a residual feel from the hydra, I think Fire can obv town which he hadn't in so many posts and then he replaced out weirdly. I don't like that it felt like they were just throwing out votes to see what stuck, like looking for wagons instead of scumhunting, and the ego battle with RT was just bad so there's at least one scum in there imo because it benefits scum for the thread to be spammed as town get pissed off and lose motivation. I felt like Kat was the one trying to calm it down so mulch > RT rn.-
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What happened to your north read?In post 536, RadiantTroubadour wrote:If you're scumreading that abdication of responsibility I'll try to do something but I'm getting nowhere in this game.-
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