Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Gamma Emerald]

yo ran

do you got time to reread almost50? ive been thinking of lynching him today i havent seen any townie posts from him. tell me what you think

I know A50 tends to have a scummy meta and yet, he has better read accuracy then me. (He's my team mate in Team Mafia) So I'd rather not lynch him today, as he'd be more valuable to town as town, if that is the case. If he's scum, we'll find him through his buddies.

i really think hes scum. he is my next lynch

man nero is scummy. he needs to go before endgame as well

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[Nero Cain]

I am dumb Gamma and need you to explain the difference in these.

Well no because if dunker and koki are both scum his vote makes sense as a scum move. If dunker is town it's just a dumb move. If dunker is scum and koki is town that makes even less sense as a move. So I vote koki who could be either scum or town. If he flips town that probably means dunker is town. If he flips scum dunker could be town but would very likely be scum.

So I'm gonna try to break this down

Koki lynched d1
flips scum
Indicates Dunker could have been pushing a buddy as leader
flips town
Dunker probably genuinely trusted Koki

Dunker lynched d1
flips scum
Koki either buddy pushed as leader or town framed or thought of as a leader who would be weak
flips town
absolutely nothing on Koki

So it would make sense to flip Koki first out of those two
time to see who said the opposite, they're probably scum
btw this has nothing to do with my actual lynching plans, I think Koki is town and don't really have a read on Dunker yet

[brassherald]

Nothing is scummy about jockeying for votes on a wagon normally, but it could be, circumstantially, and definitely in the face of making the IC world congress leader.
But you get my point, yeah?

i get your point that townies cannot be cleared off of scum lynches

i dont get your point about me being the worst on the wagon. like do you think im just gonna say "oh yeah youre totally justified to push a townie cuz of multiball spec"?

lol this guy once again

in other news i am getting really anxious for a50 to flip but i do enjoy the klazam wagon.

first world problems man

In any other game I'd ignore this but it feels like a soft

Why highlight perceived softs?

To be fair to Gamma, I did just basically reveal to everyone that I have figured out his nation.

Going through ISOs, I know 3 for sure, one I am pretty sure was not a lie.

Then there are 2-4 that I have a guess on for nations, but this is important only because I think I may have found that we do have a delegate from India.

[Nero Cain]

pls tell us who it is otherwise he'll nuke us on d5. RIP us.

[Titus]

Nothing is scummy about jockeying for votes on a wagon normally, but it could be, circumstantially, and definitely in the face of making the IC world congress leader.
But you get my point, yeah?

i get your point that townies cannot be cleared off of scum lynches

i dont get your point about me being the worst on the wagon. like do you think im just gonna say "oh yeah youre totally justified to push a townie cuz of multiball spec"?

lol this guy once again

in other news i am getting really anxious for a50 to flip but i do enjoy the klazam wagon.

first world problems man

In any other game I'd ignore this but it feels like a soft

Why highlight perceived softs?

To be fair to Gamma, I did just basically reveal to everyone that I have figured out his nation.

Going through ISOs, I know 3 for sure, one I am pretty sure was not a lie.

Then there are 2-4 that I have a guess on for nations, but this is important only because I think I may have found that we do have a delegate from India.

Why is important to out this as roles could link to civs?

[Gamma Emerald]

I am dumb Gamma and need you to explain the difference in these.

Well no because if dunker and koki are both scum his vote makes sense as a scum move. If dunker is town it's just a dumb move. If dunker is scum and koki is town that makes even less sense as a move. So I vote koki who could be either scum or town. If he flips town that probably means dunker is town. If he flips scum dunker could be town but would very likely be scum.

So I'm gonna try to break this down

Koki lynched d1
flips scum
Indicates Dunker could have been pushing a buddy as leader
flips town
Dunker probably genuinely trusted Koki

Dunker lynched d1
flips scum
Koki either buddy pushed as leader or town framed or thought of as a leader who would be weak
flips town
absolutely nothing on Koki

So it would make sense to flip Koki first out of those two
time to see who said the opposite, they're probably scum
btw this has nothing to do with my actual lynching plans, I think Koki is town and don't really have a read on Dunker yet

These aren't different, but the point is I didn't just go say "I think Bujaber is right" I actually thought it through myself and worked through the logic. So I'd like you to explain how me working clearly through the logic myself still be considered scum parroting.

[brassherald]

Nothing is scummy about jockeying for votes on a wagon normally, but it could be, circumstantially, and definitely in the face of making the IC world congress leader.
But you get my point, yeah?

i get your point that townies cannot be cleared off of scum lynches

i dont get your point about me being the worst on the wagon. like do you think im just gonna say "oh yeah youre totally justified to push a townie cuz of multiball spec"?

lol this guy once again

in other news i am getting really anxious for a50 to flip but i do enjoy the klazam wagon.

first world problems man

In any other game I'd ignore this but it feels like a soft

Why highlight perceived softs?

To be fair to Gamma, I did just basically reveal to everyone that I have figured out his nation.

Going through ISOs, I know 3 for sure, one I am pretty sure was not a lie.

Then there are 2-4 that I have a guess on for nations, but this is important only because I think I may have found that we do have a delegate from India.

Why is important to out this as roles could link to civs?

It isn't and I'm not outing anyone else, promise. I'm just going to say I've got my eye out for civilization roles.

[Gamma Emerald]

btw brass I don't mind you outing my nation as I softed it in-thread

[marshy]

yo ran

do you got time to reread almost50? ive been thinking of lynching him today i havent seen any townie posts from him. tell me what you think

I know A50 tends to have a scummy meta and yet, he has better read accuracy then me. (He's my team mate in Team Mafia) So I'd rather not lynch him today, as he'd be more valuable to town as town, if that is the case. If he's scum, we'll find him through his buddies.

i really think hes scum. he is my next lynch

man nero is scummy. he needs to go before endgame as well

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you are among the last to lecture me on bad posts boi

are you townreading a50 or something? what are your thoughts on him?

this game is good. im also on a creature wagon in spirit. a50/creature/klazam are all great plays

[brassherald]

a50/creature/klazam are all great plays

I like this. (My client is late to my meeting, so, going to just lurk around here as I wait for him)

[Gamma Emerald]

yo ran

do you got time to reread almost50? ive been thinking of lynching him today i havent seen any townie posts from him. tell me what you think

I know A50 tends to have a scummy meta and yet, he has better read accuracy then me. (He's my team mate in Team Mafia) So I'd rather not lynch him today, as he'd be more valuable to town as town, if that is the case. If he's scum, we'll find him through his buddies.

i really think hes scum. he is my next lynch

man nero is scummy. he needs to go before endgame as well

bad post

you are among the last to lecture me on bad posts boi

are you townreading a50 or something? what are your thoughts on him?

this game is good. im also on a creature wagon in spirit. a50/creature/klazam are all great plays

Cos while Nero isn't the best he just seems to be dense rather than scum

[Nero Cain]

pot? kettle?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Ran

this is a summary of my reads right now, green = town and red = scum
I don't really have hard scumreads but I have scumleans

Varsoon
Nero Cain

Assemblerotws

brassherald

BuJaber

Kokichi Oma

Creature

Chara

Elbirn

Klazam

Titus

Shaziro

ActionDan

Joey_

Dunkerdoodles

pidgey

Jodaxq
Almost50

marshy

ranmaru

[BuJaber]

Gamma honestly when I read 213 I didn't think you were speaking about your own opinion. I thought you were explaining my own reasons in your words so others would understand what I was saying better.

I mean I didn't think you did it to sheep me I think you were just trying to make everyone stay objective so I disagree with nero about the sheeping but I do see his point that it didn't look like it was your own logic.

But now that I see how you post it makes sense considering you're one of those people that comments on posts as you read them not after you catch up.

[Gamma Emerald]

pot? kettle?

explain how I'm "being dense"
also that rings of perspective slip

[BuJaber]

Why am I scum suddenly? Odd coming from you specifically.

@brass - where are you going with this? I don't see how civs would be AI so I didn't pay attention to people softing their civs.

[Shaziro]

Why am I scum suddenly? Odd coming from you specifically.

@brass - where are you going with this? I don't see how civs would be AI so I didn't pay attention to people softing their civs.

Arguable, a person's civ could help determine their role, and a role could help determine their alignment. I do think it's a bit early in the game to be outing softs though.

[Gamma Emerald]

I've kinda found you suspicious at points Bu.

[brassherald]

Why am I scum suddenly? Odd coming from you specifically.

@brass - where are you going with this? I don't see how civs would be AI so I didn't pay attention to people softing their civs.

Mostly I was being entertained a bit by it. But, if I'm right on India, we know from post 1 that Ghandi is a VT

[Gamma Emerald]

I s2g if someone's role is the sample role PM I will bitch-slap the mod

[Nero Cain]

explain how I'm "being dense"

Remember that time you kept claiming that I was pushing Joey for rolefishing despite Joey himself saying that he knew I wasn't pushing him for rolefishing. I also feel like its a bit lame to call me dense for calling you on parroting. If you wanna get mad and thrown a hissy fit so be it.

I'd like to hear more on why you found Bujaber suspicious.

[brassherald]

explain how I'm "being dense"

Remember that time you kept claiming that I was pushing Joey for rolefishing despite Joey himself saying that he knew I wasn't pushing him for rolefishing. I also feel like its a bit lame to call me dense for calling you on parroting. If you wanna get mad and thrown a hissy fit so be it.

I'd like to hear more on why you found Bujaber suspicious.

I do find the BuJaber scum lean a bit odd, considering the game to my memory

[Gamma Emerald]

explain how I'm "being dense"

Remember that time you kept claiming that I was pushing Joey for rolefishing despite Joey himself saying that he knew I wasn't pushing him for rolefishing. I also feel like its a bit lame to call me dense for calling you on parroting. If you wanna get mad and thrown a hissy fit so be it.

I'd like to hear more on why you found Bujaber suspicious.

Okay that makes sense but still that's kinda a perspective slip cos you didn't adjust to say I was scum being dense rather than town
As for the "parroting" are you arguing what Bu said (I went through his logic) or are you tinfoiling the thought that I made a post about it while also just copying someone else's logic

[Gamma Emerald]

BuJaber suspicion is based on something early and the fact it feels like he was whiteknighting me at one point

[Gamma Emerald]

okay the early thing is a gripe about him picking on semantics