Open 714: Tit for Tat [Game Over]

[pinturicchio]

Ehh, I suppose that's fair if you think everyone else is town.

Of course, the biggest concern there would be that you think everyone else is town :3

Not town, but townier. And there would be two more scum between those who I'm not completely scumreading; your flip would give more info about who of those 2 could be.

[pinturicchio]

EBWOP townreading

[Almost50]

VOTE: Luca Blight

Seems fine to me now, so this will be where I want the Lynch to happen for day 1.

This is worrying me!

1- Jay clearly does not SR Dino (or he would have voted him, or -at least- not voted the person going mostly against Dino)
2- However, Jay doesn't sheep Math when he acknowledges Town!Dino's good enough
3- Even further, Jay is trying to start a new wagon. This clearly an attempt to divide the Town and avoid being on the same wagon with certain people.

Conclusion: Jay is now IN my lynch/vig pool.

[Creature]

Uh sure, Jay can die.

[Almost50]

Not only that, but it contributes. We are on a time limit, after all.

acknowledges we are on a time limit. yet starting a vanity wagon.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Luca Blight

Seems fine to me now, so this will be where I want the Lynch to happen for day 1.

badvote
would use one of giggles' memes but can't seem to find one

If I wasn't leaning Town on him already, I would have one because of this post.

[Mathdino]

look i'm just gonna say it

my vig plan was that when we took a wagon to L-1 and got our claim, we'd assign the vig to kill that player and then run up a wagon on someone else and lynch them

the longer it takes for town to consolidate, the harder this is gonna get

NSG i know you hate voting but please vote thanks

@Mod: request prod on jmo, who is not producing game relevant content

let's wagon aneninen already
jmo lurking is NAI, creature, it's not like he's active in speakeasy, it looks like he literally isn't logging in

[Almost50]

A50, Jay, NSG and Keyser Söze

When did the latter join the game?? I don't see his name in the players list on page 1

[Almost50]

Loool there's a player called Keyser Söze? I was making a joke because of my "usual suspects" list. Sorry for the confusion

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Luca Blight

Seems fine to me now, so this will be where I want the Lynch to happen for day 1.

This is worrying me!

1- Jay clearly does not SR Dino (or he would have voted him, or -at least- not voted the person going mostly against Dino)
2- However, Jay doesn't sheep Math when he acknowledges Town!Dino's good enough
3- Even further, Jay is trying to start a new wagon. This clearly an attempt to divide the Town and avoid being on the same wagon with certain people.

Conclusion: Jay is now IN my lynch/vig pool.

Wait what
how is this all scummy

[Mathdino]

jay trusts my abilities and sheeps me unless he doesn't

idk i mean jay's entire scumgame has historically been "sheep dino as long as he wagons someone who's not me or my scumpartner"

so jay is probably scum if aneninen flips scum but outside of that it's not scummy

we should just lynch aneninen

[Mathdino]

goddamn guys do i have to write a case here

it's fuckin hard to write cases without flips, we really just need flips

[JaydragonKing]

jay trusts my abilities and sheeps me unless he doesn't.

Funniest sentence ever.

Glad to finally have people pay attention to me though after like four to five days of me being in the background.

[Mathdino]

if you want to be present more, not placing OMGUS votes on 2 players who are clearly not getting lynched today would help muchly

cmon place a spicier vote

we have {Gamma, Aneninen, mutant} in the lynchpool
also i'm betting pintu can be lynched today if i really pushed for that but w/e

[Gamma Emerald]

Why those 3
How long do we have again? I think anything can still be pushed

[Mathdino]

we have 5 days to come up with a lynch target and a vig target
i would very much prefer outsourcing the vig to the town
that way we can get claims from both

those 3 are just the main wagons, the wagons i think could actually drum up enough support for a lynch

i'm townreading you still FTR

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm kinda concerned about you townreading me but considering me as a wagon option, not suspecting you off it but I don't want any suggestion of me as a wagon if someone is townreading me or I feel it could end up like what happened in Mini 1840 (will link if anyone wants it)

As for my picks
Lynching: probably jmo or mutant, but I might be swung to someone else if it's not Luca or Math
Vigging: if we don't lynch jmo he's my first pick, otherwise prolly mutant

[JaydragonKing]

As for my picks
Lynching: probably jmo or mutant, but I might be swung to someone else if it's not Luca or Math
Vigging: if we don't lynch jmo he's my first pick, otherwise prolly mutant

Something tells me you want jmo and Mutant to not make it to day 2.

[mutantdevle]

My current lynch pool: Gamma > jmo > Anen > Luca.
However, my vig pool: jmo > Jay > creature > A50?

If you're wondering why they're so different it's because I don't think vigs should be shooting their scum reads because that's 'playing the hero' as math roughly referred to it. You've gotta be either hella arrogant or hella confident to be shooting at your scum reads. Instead, vig kills should be spent on policy kills and players who are likely to be mislynched.

[Mathdino]

jmo could be a power role. I'd rather not have vig slated to kill a PR.

[JaydragonKing]

We have a 1/4 chance of hitting scum AND a 1/4 chance of hitting a PR. Its the same probability. Let fate take the wheel, Dino.

VOTE: Jmo

[mutantdevle]

Yeah math but literally anyone could be a PR and the vig could shoot any PR without knowing and without warning. If the vig takes a shot, I'd want it to be on someone I currently consider to be useless. I'd obviously prefer if he started talking but if that's not going to happen then I don't want him lurking to lylo.

[Almost50]

Dino: jmo might be a PR
Jay: Ok, let's lynch him then or at least force a claim so that Mafia can shoot him.

Reminder: TPRs are Vig+JK, so if jmo is a JK he dies and Svum gain that ability. If he is Vig then the JK is guaranteed to protect him so Mafia are not blocked AND Vig doesn't shoot. PERFECT PLAN from a Town PoV.

Who's up for a Jay lynch? I don't want to be dividing the wagons even further, but if I have 2-3 supporters there I'd definitely switch to it and make it the primary push of the day.

[Almost50]

Note: Jay KNOWS Math to be a good "PR hunter", btw.

[Almost50]

And if you ask "Why won't Jay just shoot imo instead?" my response is Jay also knows Math could be bluffing to misdirect the Mafia NK, so he wants to make absolutely sure about it.