Team Mafia 2018: Game 3 - Random GIFs Game Over
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Mina The Shipwright
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Mina The Shipwright
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DeasVail he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Regarding the first post you quoted, I played with UCV in Open 699 (viewtopic.php?f=51&t=73781) and while he was probably fairly obvious scum there, he spouted a lot of AtE type stuff, so that sort of post is not something I see as incompatible with his scum play.In post 3649, Mina wrote:
Hey, DeasVail. You're saying you haven't seen anything from UCV he couldn't do as scum? This post as well?In post 577, UC Voyager wrote:No. Fuck you. This one isn't creative's game. If creature decides to throw in some input. I am happy to share it, but you will not force me to only talk about what creature says and thinks. Okay.
Now let me fucking scum hunt.
Also. What about mulch and sheep? Do they not matter.
Right now, I want to search for my own reads.
Also, just quoting these so it's easier for me to read them over and check for consistency:
Spoiler: Bunch of UCV/AW's team reads
Regarding the team reads, I think that, especially early on, it’s reasonable to expect that a scum member’s team would be excited and keen on providing fake thoughts for their team member to use. I know that when I was scum in the last TM I specifically asked my team members to provide anything they were able to. And in the game I played with UCV he was super schemey in the scumchat, so it would make sense to me.-
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Mina The Shipwright
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UCV's AtE here reminds me more of Radja flipping out over his case being ignored than LLD trying to make people bad about lynching her (which is more UCV's ATE in the scum game).
I don't want to fall into the trap of "UCV has a wildly different playstyle in this one game where he's scum, so he's town here!" but he's just a lot more natural here (his posts in the other game were a lot more theatrical and fake-helpful and full of exclamation marks, and Patrick agreed with me). And I know it's technically possible for team reads to be faked, but they feel organic. My only real doubt is that UCV's LLD thoughts sucked.
That game has definitely convinced me I should focus on chesskid's meta, though, because I have zero hope of catching you! :/ (Although you're warmer and fuzzier here.)-
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Dunkerdoodles Mafia Scum
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binsIn post 3631, Mina wrote:Dunker, who do you think is more likely to be scum, DeasVail or xyzzy? And why?
I have to confess, I've actually found DeasVail's content really town, although Patrick and I did agree with Dunker on finding the Archwing case a bit forced.-
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Dunkerdoodles Mafia Scum
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this is pretty badIn post 3625, Bulbazak wrote:In post 3621, Dunkerdoodles wrote:but he could still be scum without xyzzy being scum
anyways we're probably lynching xyzzy anyways
Nope. Not interested in Xyzzy anymore. Dunker saying that he's not comfortable with Xyzzy as scum, then attacking those players who question the read, followed by "Well, that reason for scumreading DV that I said is not the reason I'm scumreading him, but he stillcould bescum whether Xyzzy flips scum or not. But Xyzzy is the lynch today. I'll just be over here off the wagon expressing interest in it though. See ya!". Yeah, this whole thing puts a sour taste in my mouth.
why does me doing this affect your read at all?-
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Bins Survivor
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Bins Survivor
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Dunkerdoodles Mafia Scum
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Archwing Mafia Scum
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sorry guys. i've been pretty shitty this game. I'm trying to get into it but I can't seem to really invest myself in this. I'm really gonna get into this soon i promise.
I really do wanna flip xy though, regardless if I'm about to be the counter wagon.GTKAS
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Dunkerdoodles Mafia Scum
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Bins Survivor
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Mina The Shipwright
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Dunkerdoodles, when did I become locktown?
I've been feeling good about Archwing being town after rereading the early game today. Aaaaaand I've been feeling like Bulbazak's paranoia around deadline is also very town!
And now I'm also feeling a lot better about Dunkerdoodles, so {xyzzy, DV, Bins} may actually be my pool. I'll need to do lots of rereading and ISOing past games tomorrow, though.-
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Mina The Shipwright
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DeasVail he/himSurvivorhe/him
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I see what you mean here and it's possible I'm trying too hard to explain away things that could point to town-Archwing to justify my scumread. I still find Archwing's play around the time of the replacements to fit very well with what I would expect from scum, but at this point I'm okay with day ending and revisiting this read later on.In post 3653, Mina wrote:UCV's AtE here reminds me more of Radja flipping out over his case being ignored than LLD trying to make people bad about lynching her (which is more UCV's ATE in the scum game).
I don't want to fall into the trap of "UCV has a wildly different playstyle in this one game where he's scum, so he's town here!" but he's just a lot more natural here (his posts in the other game were a lot more theatrical and fake-helpful and full of exclamation marks, and Patrick agreed with me). And I know it's technically possible for team reads to be faked, but they feel organic. My only real doubt is that UCV's LLD thoughts sucked.
That game has definitely convinced me I should focus on chesskid's meta, though, because I have zero hope of catching you! :/ (Although you're warmer and fuzzier here.)-
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Mina The Shipwright
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Btw, my team is on the same page as me. (Fenchurch is starting to read the game from the beginning and strongly scumreads Smocaine but townreads Bins so far; CES seemed to think it was DV/Bins and wanted me to push one of them before deadline, although he may have been ironic ; Patrick is leaning toward xyzzy/Bins as the team with DV as a dark horse candidate; singer can't read until Sunday.) They aren't completely caught up with everything yet, though, so may be partly influenced by which players I'm focusing on.-
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Dunkerdoodles Mafia Scum
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this just feels out of his scum rangeIn post 577, UC Voyager wrote:No. Fuck you. This one isn't creative's game. If creature decides to throw in some input. I am happy to share it, but you will not force me to only talk about what creature says and thinks. Okay.
Now let me fucking scum hunt.
Also. What about mulch and sheep? Do they not matter.
Right now, I want to search for my own reads.-
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Bins Survivor
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Keychain she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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RC is no longer in TM after his ban so can't give further thoughts, but his initial townread on her was gut.In post 3651, Mina wrote:Keychain, summary on why RC thinks Bins is town?
The read still stood after D2, she showed a heck of a lot of energy through that day and he found it very town-motivated.
Not sure on Mina. I'm more convinced on town!Arch now and I'd rather lynch xyz than switch there.Dunkerdoodles wrote:rn i have me, arch, mina and keychain as locktown
anyone dispute these?
Are any of your teammates following this game?You're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago.-
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Dunkerdoodles Mafia Scum
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Mina The Shipwright
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Bins' early D2 stuff made me townread her, so that's plausible, I guess.
While we're at it, Bins, you said like on Day One that Keychain can copy and paste her scum meta into her town games. What makes you clear her here?
I feel like I've been getting good info from the end of day, but FYI, I'll probably hammer tomorrow morning when I wake up unless someone wants me to wait on something.
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