Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[Momrangal]

I think scum lies within his town reads and not his scum reads.

How do you say this and still say one is in BJ/Beefster who is in his scum reads

[BuJaber]

Personally I don't think we need to wait.

A50 not posting means he's given up regardless of his alignment. Though in general it points to scum rather town.

[Almost50]

VOTE: A50

[Mathdino]

This is a win if I've ever seen one.

Setup's a bit townsided I'll admit.

It's lowkey possible we have 2 scum left so don't get too complacent I guess.

[Mathdino]

Protectives:
Mathdino guards Kthxbye
mastina blocks Beefster
Beefster jails mastina

Investigatives:
the worst checks InfernoBrafin
Kthx follows Not_Mafia
Not_Mafia motion detects Marangal

Others:
Bujaber visits Mathdino
Marangal holsters
InfernoBrafin holsters

Bujaber can still be the endgame scum, so watch out for that (although it'd be hilariously imbalanced if he was the 3rd scum, I'm talkin 4th).

[Gamma Emerald]

Votecount 2.7

(6) Almost50: Mathdino, Beefster, the worst, BuJaber, Kthxbye, Almost50

(0) Not voting: Momrangal, InfernoBrafin, Not_Mafia, Carrot and Stick

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Chapter 5: Decisions Decisions

Buzz Buzz: my my that was certainly a fast selection. You say you've picked Almost50? Let's see then.
Buzz Buzz: oh my, he doesn't seem very human at all now that I look closer. He's like a statue.
Buzz Buzz: Actually he is a statue! How did a Mani Mani get here? It seems Giygas-
Mani Mani: G̛̕͞i̴̡͢͝͏y͘҉̸g̢҉̸̵͜ą̶́͜s͏͝͡ ͝҉̴͠s͏͢ȩ͠n̷͏̸́d̵̶̢̡͠s̀͘͘͢͜ ͜҉̕͢h̀̀͘͡͞į̶̨̢s͏̀͘͟͞ ̧̢̨r̶̡e̢͏̵̡͠g̡̛͝a͏̴̴͡͡r̶̀͞͡ḑ̸́̀͟s̷̀,͟͠ ̀B̛͘͢͢ù̷̷̢z̴̡̢z̛͞ ̴̷̢̢B̵̶͘ú̵̷̧z̴̧͏z̷̨͢
Buzz Buzz: Well that's ominous. Get him in there with the others now!

Almost50,

Mani Mani, Mafia Investigation-Immune Goon

, was discovered and imprisoned Day 2.

Night 2 has started and will end (expired on 2018-03-12 13:15:00)

[Gamma Emerald]

Flavor later but I should post this now rather than later
Carrot and Stick,

Apple Kid, Town JOAT

, was driven mad Night 2.

[Gamma Emerald]

Votecount 3.0

(8) Not voting: everyone

(expired on 2018-03-26 18:05:00)
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

[Mathdino]

@the worst:

Confirm InfernoBrafin is town?

@Kthxbye:

Confirm Not_Mafia's night action?

@Not_Mafia:

Confirm no movement from Marangal?

Scum have a strongman no matter what, assuming mastina's night action went through. Either Beefster performed the strongman kill and is also a mafia jailkeeper who jailed Marangal, or someone shot straight through Beefster's protection.

Assuming innocents from everyone, that means we have:

Confirmed didn't do the nightkill: InfernoBrafin, Not_Mafia, Ms Marangal

Remaining:
Beefster: Confirmed jailkeeper
the worst: Unconfirmed, needs to claim
Bujaber: Unconfirmed compulsive visitor
Kthx: Semi-confirmed follower
Mathdino: Unconfirmed Bodyguard

VOTE: Bujaber

[the worst]

InfBra is clear.

[Kthxbye]

NM used an investigative ability last night

[Mathdino]

I think on Bujaber lynch we can do the following to clear the rest:

Beefster holsters (jailkeeper is fucking useless now)
Mathdino holsters (bodyguard is also useless)
the worst checks Beefster
Kthxbye checks Beefster
Not_Mafia checks Mathdino

Marangal and IB roles are now useless and are our LyLo with Not_Mafia if there's 4 scum.

[Not_Mafia]

No movement on mom

[Mathdino]

Votecount 2.6

(2)

Almost50

:

Carrot and Stick

, BuJaber
(3)

Carrot and Stick

:

Not_Mafia

,

Almost50

,

acryon

(6) acryon: Mathdino, Kthxbye,

Momrangal

,

InfernoBrafin

, the worst, Beefster

Votecount 2.7

(6) Almost50: Mathdino, Beefster, the worst, BuJaber, Kthxbye,

Almost50

(0) Not voting:

Momrangal

,

InfernoBrafin

,

Not_Mafia

,

Carrot and Stick

Hilariously, scum bussed no matter what here.

At this point it's just lynching the people late to the parties.

Kthx called the guilty on A50 and was one of the first on acryon. I could definitely see Kthx "confirming" himself as a softbus plan with A50, but the force with which he went in on that makes that a bit unlikely.

Beefster was late on acryon. Viable partner.

Bujaber was late on both. Probably the correct lynch today.

the worst I'd have to take a closer look at. Was late on acryon but gung ho on A50.

[Kthxbye]

Did I miss the Mom confirm somewhere?

[Mathdino]

No movement on mom

Here.

Can we lynch Bujaber now?

[Kthxbye]

Also, call me setup spec scared, but I'm not sure town gets 3 investigates even WITH investigation immune goon. Maybe I'm just paranoid...

[Mathdino]

On reconsideration, I'd also be somewhat open to lynching Beefster (since jailkeeper does nothing).

This creates a nightplan of:
Mathdino holsters
Kthxbye follows Bujaber
the worst checks Mathdino
Not_Mafia checks InfernoBrafin

Lynching Bujaber is mechanically superior because "compulsive visitor" is a weird role that doesn't seem like it would have a result for the Follower, and Not_Mafia doesn't really have anything useful to do in this instance. Unless we want to do an alternate plan of the worst checking Marangal and Not_Mafia motion detecting me, which also works.

But Beefster is probably scummier by play, so w/e.

[Mathdino]

Also, call me setup spec scared, but I'm not sure town gets 3 investigates even WITH investigation immune goon. Maybe I'm just paranoid...

It's not at all unlikely that there's 4 mafia.

That just requires a double bus.

Either way that group of 5 I posted MUST contain a strongman. Once we get our strongman flip, we reevaluate.

[Kthxbye]

No movement on mom

Here.

Can we lynch Bujaber now?

ah, I read NM's power as watching for people to show up...missed the leaving part.

For Me

Beefster: Jailkeeper
Bujaber: Probably a Compulsive Visitor? Unclaimed

InfernoBrafin: 1-shot Double Daymaker

Kthxbye: Follower

Mathdino: Bodyguard
Momrangal: Messenger
Not_Mafia: Motion Detector
the worst: Investigative

Carrot & Mastina: JOAT (Roleblocker, Rolecop, Doctor)
Iconeum: Backup JOAT
GoldenParadox: Hider

acryon: 1-shot Gladiator/Traitor

Almost50: Investigation Immune goon

Pedit: I don't agree with you holstering. TBH, I want to investigate you while you BG me tonight. I know it's highly unlikely for you to be scum here, but damn, if you were scum, you win this game by simply bussing and leading.

[Kthxbye]

Is there a world in which NM is a scum investigative role?

[Kthxbye]

I mean, game balance doesn't take into account everyone and their mother claiming by early D2

[Mathdino]

My power means nothing. Scum used their strongman on N1 and N2. I'm much better off holstering and allowing myself to be cleared by Not_Mafia.

If we double up you and the worst on Beefster (or whoever else), we can ensure a result even if scum kills one of you.

Game balance is either 4 mafia (in which case Not_Mafia is fucking clearly the 4th scum) or just thinks that a mafia strongman will neuter all the protectives and roleblockers.

[Kthxbye]

I'd be up for a Beefster lynch at this point from a pure setup spec standpoint. If a JK can't keep a strongman from killing and scum have a strongman AND a JK can't stop non killing actions from targeting them or their targets, it just doesn't make sense in this game.

If Beefster was scum, does that take away the idea of a strongman with what claims have come out?

[Kthxbye]

My power means nothing. Scum used their strongman on N1 and N2. I'm much better off holstering and allowing myself to be cleared by Not_Mafia.

If we double up you and the worst on Beefster (or whoever else), we can ensure a result even if scum kills one of you.

Game balance is either 4 mafia (in which case Not_Mafia is fucking clearly the 4th scum) or just thinks that a mafia strongman will neuter all the protectives and roleblockers.

If you are BG and you BG me, I can clear you of all doubt. That is a bonus going forward for sure. I'm more than a little worried about scum killing CS and not you considering...