Open 714: Tit for Tat [Game Over]

[Almost50]

Why are you being so reticent then

1- I would very much appreciate it if you used more common terms. I've had to google "reticent"

2- I am not. I am being effortless. Or rather saving my efforts until they are truly needed.

In general; D1 is the playground of Scum and VIs alike. Anything you say or try to do will be opposed by both. VIs tend to follow Scum much much more than they do Town, and I don't want to go through the trouble of swimming against the current.

[Mathdino]

A50 can you just give a reads list

[Almost50]

VOTE: Northsidegal

And I though you were "child-friendly".

[mutantdevle]

Sheeping isn't acceptable, yet you did it yourself? It's also wrong theory-wise, imo; basically 'sheeping' in this context is 'compromising' - there is no way Town can reach a lynch without this, unless there is a ridiculously obvious lynch candidate. Yeah, I guess people could say a few words about Anen while sheeping, but all you said is he's a bit scummy tonally which doesn't massively put you above the others, imo.

You even pointed out I was hesitant to join the sheeping, so please don't treat me as though I jumped on no questions asked. Besides, I have been scum leaning Anen for a while - that doesn't mean I can't be cautious when a wagon suddenly forms on him with seemingly no case.

Err, but Pin didn't jump on

'no questions asked

' either?

You can't call him scummy for sheeping when you did the same thing yourself.

I don't think he's scummy for necessarily sheeping. I think he's scummy for the reasons he voted in general. The only reason he didn't switch no questions asked was because he was concerned about what a scum flip would mean for people's reads (or rather Math's specific read) on Jay. I find this odd because I don't understand why he'd be so concerned by how the lynch would affect Jay when Jay was a null read to him and he seemed to be confident that Anen would flip scum despite null reading him. My point is that Pintu's vote felt like a last minute scum bus that was trying to avoid looking like exactly that by trying to seem as sheepless as possible through pretending to be concerned about Jay - hence why I became happy with my vote. Though I still consider the possibility that Pintu genuinely was concerned about Jay despite them being a null read.

[Almost50]

A50 can you just give a reads list

Nope. Not gonna fold my hand for nothing.

VOTE: NSG

[Mathdino]

My working theory is that after NSG was told why she was being townread so much (asking questions all the time), she subconsciously amps that way the fuck up as scum to get people to townread her for that.

There's basically 0 indication she's actually forming reads based on those questions this game though. The fact that there's more questions than posts makes that pretty clear.

Edit: Okay so we're doing this. NSG's gonna be upset when she gets beetlejuices back into the thread yknow.
VOTE: NSG

[mutantdevle]

I don't intentionally misrep people, lol. I say whatever seems to make sense FMPOV. Sometimes that means dramatising things.

The thing is, half the game dislikes it when I take the initiative in dropping the me vs Luca debates, and half dislikes it when I continue them. Had I kept going, I'd have gotten screamed at not only by Luca (who is obviously going to disagree with whatever I have to say), but also pintu and Anen, who were blaming me for the chaotic/toxic gamestate.

Now flash forward pages later and you're suspicious of the fact that I dropped it.

I'M ALWAYS THE ONE THAT DROPS IT. That does not mean a concession, that means "this really doesn't benefit me or anyone except scum to continue this debate".

I'm not criticising that you dropped it. But unlike the rest of the times you've dropped it, you didn't mention you were dropping it this time; you just did. That's what makes the misrep look intentional. It gave the impression that you just had nothing to say at all and hence admitting defeat in Luca's point.

[Almost50]

Edit: Okay so we're doing this. NSG's gonna be upset when she gets beetlejuices back into the thread yknow.

She could've tried harder. That's why I'm bussing the hell out of her.

[Luca Blight]

NSG-Anen sumteam could be possible, given how she wanted to save him based on little, and how she wanted to wagon Pin also based on little.

[Mathdino]

@mutant: You haven't noticed how many times I dropped it precisely because I didn't mention I was dropping it before.

@A50: Can you go read Pick Your Poison and get back to me? I'm trying to figure out how this is consistent.

Like, scum-NSG at least puts some effort into making up reads. Idk why she hasn't this game.

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: NSG

[JaydragonKing]

Almost50 was found dead last night.
He was shot by a Vigilante.
He was a

Mafia Rolecop

.

[Almost50]

Idk why she hasn't this game.

Probably because both you and me are here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are you being so reticent then

1- I would very much appreciate it if you used more common terms. I've had to google "reticent"

2- I am not. I am being effortless. Or rather saving my efforts until they are truly needed.

In general; D1 is the playground of Scum and VIs alike. Anything you say or try to do will be opposed by both. VIs tend to follow Scum much much more than they do Town, and I don't want to go through the trouble of swimming against the current.

Why this game though? Why not any other game are you being so defeatist?

[Almost50]

And I did reference Pick Your Poison earlier, I think. I recall having told NSG she put more effort as Scum in her recently finished game, unless I meant to but didn't actually.

[Almost50]

Almost50 was found dead last night.
He was shot by a Vigilante.
He was a

Mafia Rolecop

.

What that ...!! Did you hack into my account??

[mutantdevle]

I'm not so sure I'm liking this flash NSG wagon. (I also find it odd how there have been several flash wagons that don't seem to go anywhere but I guess that's a point for another time). I'm willing to vote for her as a compromise though because obviously, time isn't doing us any favours right now.

She's been posting everywhere EXCEPT this thread.

I take issue with this because I am currently in 3 games with NSG right now and this game is probably where she is posting the most.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not so sure I'm liking this flash NSG wagon. (I also find it odd how there have been several flash wagons that don't seem to go anywhere but I guess that's a point for another time). I'm willing to vote for her as a compromise though because obviously, time isn't doing us any favours right now.

She's been posting everywhere EXCEPT this thread.

I take issue with this because I am currently in 3 games with NSG right now and this game is probably where she is posting the most.

I'm not sure how close this is to the line but we should probs stop

[Almost50]

Why this game though? Why not any other game are you being so defeatist?

... like ... seriously ... how do you expect me to respond to that w/o breaking the rules???

[Gamma Emerald]

Answer wrt past games?

[pinturicchio]

I'd have gotten screamed at not only by Luca (who is obviously going to disagree with whatever I have to say), but also pintu and Anen, who were blaming me for the chaotic/toxic gamestate.

I didn't blame you for the gamestate, YOU said the wallposters did this game awful and I said YOU have no right to say that when you have more than 20% of the posts in a 13 players' game, and that the 1v1 between Luca and you could be blamed as much as those wallposters you were talking about. Wow, you really are good to misrep everything in your favor

[Almost50]

Answer wrt past games?

I didn't feel this way in my recently finished games. I've decided I'm going to consume less effort about a week ago.

[Gamma Emerald]

idk you've posted more on average since the third than before

[pinturicchio]

Fuck it, I'm not following scum. A50 is pocketing Dino without even trying. Dino: "I'm starting to think that NSG could be scum. A50, what do you think?" - A50: "lynch NSG" - Dino: "Yeah, I agree". WHAT. THE ACTUAL. FUCK.
VOTE: Almost50

[JaydragonKing]

VOTE: Almost50

Probably the best course of action, since we already saw his flip.