Mini Normal 1996: Floral Mafia [Endgame!]

[Havo]

Hello Hello Hello.

Before I RVS vote, let me introduce myself.

I’m a mediocre mafia player at best who really dislikes Day 1s.
I’ve been known to quick hammer peeps on Day 1 if it’s just a day or two
Into the game to get the game moving.

I’m generally quite active and polite. But I have been called terrible town, an idiot and a Liar.
As recently as my last game.

But I’m looking forward to a great game with this player list.

Can we not excuse d1 quickhammers

Just because you're terrible doesn't mean you get to bring everyone else down

oh gamma's taking multiple shots. i feel better now lol.

Exactly what does calling people terrible accomplish again? Why not just play with that in mind in stead of making sure everyone knows you think X is trash at the game? Are you the king of mafia? because we need to work as a team instead of degrading multiple people before we get into the actual game.

I can't say exactly what prompted this concern but I'm very concerned Havo might hammer the cop on accident for example

This literally made me LOL.

Don't put the cop at L-1 early game and you won't have to worry about it.

[Havo]

Hello Hello Hello.

Before I RVS vote, let me introduce myself.

I’m a mediocre mafia player at best who really dislikes Day 1s.
I’ve been known to quick hammer peeps on Day 1 if it’s just a day or two
Into the game to get the game moving.

I’m generally quite active and polite. But I have been called terrible town, an idiot and a Liar.
As recently as my last game.

But I’m looking forward to a great game with this player list.

Can we not excuse d1 quickhammers

Just because you're terrible doesn't mean you get to bring everyone else down

oh gamma's taking multiple shots. i feel better now lol.

Exactly what does calling people terrible accomplish again? Why not just play with that in mind in stead of making sure everyone knows you think X is trash at the game? Are you the king of mafia? because we need to work as a team instead of degrading multiple people before we get into the actual game.

I can't say exactly what prompted this concern but I'm very concerned Havo might hammer the cop on accident for example

This literally made me LOL.

Don't put the cop at L-1 early game and you won't have to worry about it.

[Havo]

Damn, double post, don't know how i did that.

[Tchill13]

I'm townread ... Tchill for particular reasons.

You're wrong

Anyone notice the aggressive push on me after i stated i town read KTS for his aggressive push?

No? You're twisting things now. I started pushing you when your inconsistency became very blatant.

Nice of you to just ignore me when I call you on your shit Teech.

I'm not ignoring you. You're posts are not the most important every post. I'll get back to you.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why even do you dislike day 1 so much? The point of it is to generate information for future days. Cutting it off early ruins that. Your whole philosophy is rather anti-town. I am of the same mindset school teachers have for delinquent students: if you're not gonna learn fine but don't disrupt the learning of others. Substitute interact with learn and you get my stance on how day 1 dislikers should be acting.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm townread ... Tchill for particular reasons.

You're wrong

Anyone notice the aggressive push on me after i stated i town read KTS for his aggressive push?

No? You're twisting things now. I started pushing you when your inconsistency became very blatant.

Nice of you to just ignore me when I call you on your shit Teech.

I'm not ignoring you. You're posts are not the most important every post. I'll get back to you.

Why is it taking so long? Scumteam not online?

[Tchill13]

don't need to push you, and didn't need to read the entire game.

This is exactly what I expected. You pick and choose the information to fit your narrative at all times. Just admitted to not looking at the whole thing in context. Which I assume is how you play to push you're agenda. I feel that you're agenda is superior town but I'm not one hundred percent sure.

[Tchill13]

I'm not sure if they're online because I didn't get access to the scum thread.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not sure if they're online because I didn't get access to the scum thread.

lolok
the insinuation was your team wasn't online to give you tips

[Killthestory]

don't need to push you, and didn't need to read the entire game.

This is exactly what I expected. You pick and choose the information to fit your narrative at all times. Just admitted to not looking at the whole thing in context. Which I assume is how you play to push you're agenda. I feel that you're agenda is superior town but I'm not one hundred percent sure.

lol

[Havo]

Very early Day 1 reads for me -

Katherine - Null
Tchill - Lean Town, familiarity, nothing feels off as of yet
Creature - Null
Ausuka - Towny, makes sense and I like the tone
Gamma - Null I guess, I go back and forth here.
Brass Herald - Very slight town lean here.
Cedrick - Very slight town lean, tone mainly
Mumble - Null, not much to look at
KTS - Leaning Scum here, aggressive scum, false reads maybe
Maria - Town lean here, but a bad gut feeling for some reason
Luca - Null, not a fan of his tunnel vision early
Implosion - Null, slight town maybe

VOTE: KTS

[Gamma Emerald]

Havo I'm interested in your reads no me Tchill and Luca, what informs them?

[brassherald]

I'm not liking Killthestory recently. I'm not sure if his "already solving the game" junk is scum trying to look like stupid town or just really stupid town.

I still like where my vote is, but

FoS: KtS

Otherwise to catch up off the top of my head:
I'm not loving what TChill has done so far.
Havo has been pretty okay.
Maria just gets a bit worse every time she posts.
Luca seems pretty okay as well.
Gamma seems like Gamma is every game, which means I can't read him day 1.
implosion is posting but I have no read on him.
Ausuka's biggest issue is that right now I can 100% assure you she is not voting scum.
Creature is participating and therefore likely not scum.
Cedric seems like he is trying to game solve.

don't need to push you, and didn't need to read the entire game.

This is exactly what I expected. You pick and choose the information to fit your narrative at all times. Just admitted to not looking at the whole thing in context. Which I assume is how you play to push you're agenda. I feel that you're agenda is superior town but I'm not one hundred percent sure.

TChill, can you just make very clear what your read is on KtS? I am so lost.

Also, this is the closest to an actual full read list you are getting, I hate read lists and hated doing this post.

[Havo]

Why even do you dislike day 1 so much? The point of it is to generate information for future days. Cutting it off early ruins that. Your whole philosophy is rather anti-town. I am of the same mindset school teachers have for delinquent students: if you're not gonna learn fine but don't disrupt the learning of others. Substitute interact with learn and you get my stance on how day 1 dislikers should be acting.

I dislike Day 1 on this site, because I've seen a consistent pattern of mass paranoia leading to lynching a townie usually.

Show me someone on this site who can Consistently nail scum on Day 1 at a rate better than 1 out of 4. I'll give that person's

Day 1 opinion much more weight. I can hit scum 1 out of 4 times by literally closing my eyes and picking a number.

Now the argument of revealing info for later use is valid, it CAN be useful down the line, but how often is it really?

I"ve seen so many Day 1 scum reads that are false that it's made me bitter I guess.

Therefore I have no problem with ending it early, if it's like in the first few RL days and I feel like it's another typical Day 1.

However if there's good discussion and I like the feel of the day, OR i Hard town read the push, I won't hammer.

[brassherald]

Luca - Null, not a fan of his tunnel vision early

Havo, isn't tunnelling more of a towny action, though? That's actually why I'm thinking townier.

[Havo]

Luca - Null, not a fan of his tunnel vision early

Havo, isn't tunnelling more of a towny action, though? That's actually why I'm thinking townier.

I would agree, but what struck me was his immediate tunnel vision on Tchill. LIke right from the Go.

I need more content from him, we'll see how it develops.

[Killthestory]

i now clearly remember why i originally left this site.

[Havo]

Havo I'm interested in your reads no me Tchill and Luca, what informs them?

Tchill is meta I guess you could say, I've played with him several times and am comfortable with his town game.

with Luca I recently played a game with him where he was town and his play seemed more even keeled than what he's done here.
Makes me think he could be aggressive scum, but it's very early and it could be nothing.

You, I'm not sure about, I like a lot of the points you make and some I don't. I don't want to get into a long debate about certain things EARLY game if that makes sense, I'd rather let them unfold naturally.

I do much better with reads with more content, I rarely do a reads list on Day 1 at all because it usually looks like what I posted, a slight TR or two and a lot of Nulls, I don't put a lot of stock in my very early reads either. Nor anyone else's tBH.

[Havo]

i now clearly remember why i originally left this site.

LOL

[brassherald]

i now clearly remember why i originally left this site.

Because people don't just immediately bow down to the fact that you have solved the game?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why even do you dislike day 1 so much? The point of it is to generate information for future days. Cutting it off early ruins that. Your whole philosophy is rather anti-town. I am of the same mindset school teachers have for delinquent students: if you're not gonna learn fine but don't disrupt the learning of others. Substitute interact with learn and you get my stance on how day 1 dislikers should be acting.

I dislike Day 1 on this site, because I've seen a consistent pattern of mass paranoia leading to lynching a townie usually.

Show me someone on this site who can Consistently nail scum on Day 1 at a rate better than 1 out of 4. I'll give that person's

Day 1 opinion much more weight. I can hit scum 1 out of 4 times by literally closing my eyes and picking a number.

Now the argument of revealing info for later use is valid, it CAN be useful down the line, but how often is it really?

I"ve seen so many Day 1 scum reads that are false that it's made me bitter I guess.

Therefore I have no problem with ending it early, if it's like in the first few RL days and I feel like it's another typical Day 1.

However if there's good discussion and I like the feel of the day, OR i Hard town read the push, I won't hammer.

First off kill the excess spacing. Second I feel like just because day 1 scumreads aren't good doesn't mean it has no ability to help form reads in the future. I personally feel like my day 1 scum finding rate is pretty good but I have had games where I just sucked horribly. Are you asking for people who can find 1 scum out of a team or who can name the team day 1? Because I have lucky moments with the latter but can generally do the former. Again, just because day one scumreads are false doesn't mean they can't be reconsidered down the line.

[MariaR]

looking for a deepwolf i'd say it could be maria as a likely candidate for it. luca i dont think so, and no one else looks like theyre trying to deepwolf. pr0bably just gonna keep maria on a leash the entire game lol.

gonna read up on tchill and make my final judgement on the dude.

Welcome to the town block
Also you're not wrong.

[MariaR]

I think KTS "how many mafia are there" dumbtell was legit

[MariaR]

Hello Hello Hello.

Before I RVS vote, let me introduce myself.

I’m a mediocre mafia player at best who really dislikes Day 1s.
I’ve been known to quick hammer peeps on Day 1 if it’s just a day or two
Into the game to get the game moving.

I’m generally quite active and polite. But I have been called terrible town, an idiot and a Liar.
As recently as my last game.

But I’m looking forward to a great game with this player list.

Can we not excuse d1 quickhammers

Just because you're terrible doesn't mean you get to bring everyone else down

oh gamma's taking multiple shots. i feel better now lol.

Exactly what does calling people terrible accomplish again? Why not just play with that in mind in stead of making sure everyone knows you think X is trash at the game? Are you the king of mafia? because we need to work as a team instead of degrading multiple people before we get into the actual game.

I can't say exactly what prompted this concern but I'm very concerned Havo might hammer the cop on accident for example

This literally made me LOL.

Don't put the cop at L-1 early game and you won't have to worry about it.

DON'T REMIND ME OF THIS GAME EITHER HAVO SWEET JESUS

[Gamma Emerald]

I think KTS "how many mafia are there" dumbtell was legit

why? What specifically indicates that it looks like a genuine question when 1) it's in the OP and 2) it's pretty standard for 13p games to be 10v3? I mean I could see some town

motivation

for the question but besides that it doesn't feel like a town post to me.

Hello Hello Hello.

Before I RVS vote, let me introduce myself.

I’m a mediocre mafia player at best who really dislikes Day 1s.
I’ve been known to quick hammer peeps on Day 1 if it’s just a day or two
Into the game to get the game moving.

I’m generally quite active and polite. But I have been called terrible town, an idiot and a Liar.
As recently as my last game.

But I’m looking forward to a great game with this player list.

Can we not excuse d1 quickhammers

Just because you're terrible doesn't mean you get to bring everyone else down

oh gamma's taking multiple shots. i feel better now lol.

Exactly what does calling people terrible accomplish again? Why not just play with that in mind in stead of making sure everyone knows you think X is trash at the game? Are you the king of mafia? because we need to work as a team instead of degrading multiple people before we get into the actual game.

I can't say exactly what prompted this concern but I'm very concerned Havo might hammer the cop on accident for example

This literally made me LOL.

Don't put the cop at L-1 early game and you won't have to worry about it.

DON'T REMIND ME OF THIS GAME EITHER HAVO SWEET JESUS

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