Open 713: Jungle Republic [Game Over]

[Montosh]

Not_Mafia, I choose you!

[Thor665]

Final Votecount

(6 LYNCHED)

Almost50 - voted by: skitter30, wilky, LaserGuy, Beefster, Tchill13, Not_Mafia.

(2)

Beefster - voted by: Montosh, Almost50.

(1)

Tchill13 - voted by: Espeonage.

(1)

skitter30 - voted by: Thor665.

Almost50 has been lynched!

Definitely worth it to lynch on the wagon for this one, because we gotta hit a wolf sooner rather than later.
I vow to sheep anyone who wants to claim Mafia.

Looking at Day 1, I like the idea of lynching Wilky *or* N_M.
I'm going to spend a bit of tomorrow reading each in relation to Almost and seeing if I can do better than anyone else on finding a wolf clear - there has to be one in there or Laser was bombing big time for the team.

[Not_Mafia]

So you're going to vote on one of the major wagons of today?

[Not_Mafia]

Why not skitter?

[Thor665]

Why not skitter?

Lack of Skitter in Day 1 wagon.

And to answer your other question - yes, and I actually like them both, so, as I said, I'm going to read both of you in relation to Almost and see if either of you look smore like Mafia - then I'll vote the other one.

[Not_Mafia]

Cool, I'm mafia, vote wilky

[Espeonage]

wilky, beef, and NM is the acceptable lynch pool.

beef takes a step down because I have a lingering weak townread on the slot from a somewhat wifom sheep game. Which really is reinforced by thor's RVS analysis of Beef.

skitter and TChill both had late mentions by Laser as town leans/reads. Which may indicate a clear. Ofc both can't have been cleared and might not have been hit at all but seems like a decent cull.

I also think that NM would hammer a partner there. 1. NM hammers, 2. A50 was dying anyway I would have hammered, and thats not a secret.

So wilky I guess. My issue with that conclusion is I have no idea who is then the other wolf if wilky is a wolf. NM maybe, the tunnel that doesn't get traction is a possibility. Thor could concievably hope for a bus and stay off. Or I'm duped by Tchill, skitter, or Beef, which are all conceivable but .

vote: wilky

Most likely partner after a positive flip right now is NM or Beef one for stupid hard bussing and the other for avoiding the PoE wolf.

PEDIT: You would, wouldn't you.

[Not_Mafia]

No, I'm lying

[Tchill13]

So... anyone gonna explain why we're just blindly sheeping NM's vote, which I will remind you, is on a slot that he has been tunnelling since close to RVS?

Scum caught for the wrong reasons?

[Espeonage]

tbf I read NM a scummy for the same reason as Montosh has issues here.

The last time NM tunnelled it was on who NM thought was lynchbait early day 1. And NM ended up being scum. This game is quite literally exactly the same.

But the point missed by Montosh which is iffy is that NM may hit opposing faction so it doesn't discredit the wilky wagon like it might otherwise.

I'm 95% sure NM is going to flip scum, but I have no idea which type.

[Tchill13]

well if you're so sure why not lynch NM?

I feel like lol hammering benefits scum more so than wolves seeing how lynching is the only way to kill for scum. Then again he hammered on scum which could very well make him a wolf.

[skitter30]

I'd give fairly decent odds on NM being mafia.

I am very, very, very confidant that Thor is mafia.

Btw wilky is at l-1.

[Montosh]

I'm cool with all of that. Yeah, this is multiball so for sure there can be scum on scum action in play, so even if NM is scum it doesn't necessarily discredit a wilky wagon.

But I'm working under the assumption that NM can't scumhunt orders of magnitude better than I and determine scum just by looking at them for a couple seconds.

So my question is mainly, what is scummy about wilky beyond NM saying he's scummy?

I'll answer one thing, there's a lurky quality to him that could very well ping scum. My concern is that there's very little resistance to this, everyone just seems be blindly sheeping without adding anything. If we lynch him and he flips town, then I feel like we've significantly reduced the amount of info we can gain because no one is posting their thoughts.

Am I the only one that feels this consensus has a fake, scummy vibe to it?

[Not_Mafia]

lol scumclaim harder

[Not_Mafia]

[wilky,montosh]
[Beefster, Thor/skitter]

[Not_Mafia]

Final Votecount

(6 LYNCHED)

Almost50 - voted by: skitter30, wilky, LaserGuy, Beefster, Tchill13, Not_Mafia.

(2)

Beefster - voted by: Montosh, Almost50.

(1)

Tchill13 - voted by: Espeonage.

(1)

skitter30 - voted by: Thor665.

Almost50 has been lynched!

Definitely worth it to lynch on the wagon for this one, because we gotta hit a wolf sooner rather than later.
I vow to sheep anyone who wants to claim Mafia.

Looking at Day 1, I like the idea of lynching Wilky *or* N_M.
I'm going to spend a bit of tomorrow reading each in relation to Almost and seeing if I can do better than anyone else on finding a wolf clear - there has to be one in there or Laser was bombing big time for the team.

This post sucks hard but I'm not sure if it's Thorsuck or scumsuck

[Espeonage]

Am I the only one that feels this consensus has a fake, scummy vibe to it?

yup

go read my PoE and tell me this isn't the mathematically best lynch by a long way.

[skitter30]

Am I the only one that feels this consensus has a fake, scummy vibe to it?

Yes, cuz mafia wants it. And we need to lynch a wolf today so I'm not much bothered by that.

Wilky isn't partnered with A50 here like ever (he made bujaber replace out, remember?). He's the least townie of the people who don't make sense as A50/Thor partners.

Only thing he said today was to cast some shade on some of his wagon (he didn't even mention my vote when he did so).

He spent much of day1 tunneling on Bujaber or going after low-habging fruit in Fanta or korina.

Oddly focused on the night-kill day 2. His vote A50 vote was gross in the same way Thor's vote on me was. (And the same way your vote on Beef was just now). Ultimatums give an excuse to vote-park.

[Montosh]

skitter
tchill
Esp
Thor
wilky
N_M
Beef

{A50, ??, ??} - Thor??, tchill/beef NOT skitter, wilky

{??, ??} - Esp/beef, could be skitter, probably not if wilky is WW.

I can't sort N_M. Pretty much a diceroll right now.

I'm pretty confident on scum!thor, a lot less on mafia!thor. I'm having a hard time seeing him hard defend his partner.

[Montosh]

VOTE: wilky

Read through his ISO, yeah definitely went after low-hanging fruit. I'll give this one a go.

[skitter30]

Oh ffs you just hammered

NM, Tchill, me, esp, you.

I thought announcing it was L-1 would be enough to forestall a lolhammer.

[skitter30]

If wilky flips wolf there's a fairly decent chance you're the partner imo.

[Montosh]

I didn't think this day was gonna go anywhere honestly.

[skitter30]

You know that hammer was awful, right?

You were just saying you thought that the wilky wagon was scum-motivated and you didn't understand it and then you lolhammer him like forty minutes later, without wilky even posting in between.

[Montosh]

You were very persuasive.

I don't see why I needed to wait longer when I'd already changed my mind. I saw the arguments, went through his ISO, considered the mechanics of who I thought it could be, and though "Yeah I guess this makes the most sense".

Given the rationale involved, I see very little wilky could have done to change anything, and so decided to end the day.

I think you're trying very hard to make a big deal about it. It's telling.