Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[BuJaber]

No I'd rather you didn't holster.

It won't have a mechanical effect on NK's but it gives more control of any potential kill.

[BuJaber]

No I'd rather you didn't holster.

It won't have a mechanical effect on NK's but it gives more control of any potential kill.

Sorry I meant it won't have an effect on Night actions but will influence NK.

[Mathdino]

OK so if no one wants me to holster you guys accept that I'm never going to get cleared as town, and we let go of the "lynch Mathdino in Lylo" deal, yeah?

[Mathdino]

Kthx for the record the reason I'm not having you clear me is because you're the only one who can clear BuJaber

[BuJaber]

OK so if no one wants me to holster you guys accept that I'm never going to get cleared as town, and we let go of the "lynch Mathdino in Lylo" deal, yeah?

Lol

Why are you so threatened by it?

I have/had my reasons for this deal. They've more or less been achieved already. If we are both alive at lylo you aren't getting lynched anymore and if you're scum you'll win. Unless somehow night actions confirm someone as definite town and they're the last alive. But you're smarter than to leave me alive with a confirmed townie especially when your night actions should confirm me as town tonight.

Basically you are never getting lynched this game.

[Mathdino]

I like to be confirmed town as town.

Do you value the worst, Kthx, Not_Mafia, or InfernoBrafin more?

Just know that scum is probably going to shoot through my protection anyway just to fuck with me

[the worst]

OK so if no one wants me to holster you guys accept that I'm never going to get cleared as town, and we let go of the "lynch Mathdino in Lylo" deal, yeah?

I am prepared to break arrogant strategy and roll the dice on clearing u tonight

[Mathdino]

It should probably be Not_Mafia clearing me so you're free to re-clear Marangal. This rules out the N_M/Marangal scumteam.

the worst, are you capable of saying beyond a shadow of a doubt that, for example, InfernoBrafin is town?

Are there any scenarios in which you can get a false inno?

[BuJaber]

Wait what are you asking?

I value you more in the game, but if I order them in terms of who I am sure is town it'll go like this:
100% town : IB
99% town: Math
85% town: kthx
80% town: TW

[Mathdino]

I'm asking who I should protect in the scenario where I don't holster.

[the worst]

Nothing within my role should give a false inno

[BuJaber]

I like to be confirmed town as town.

Do you value the worst, Kthx, Not_Mafia, or InfernoBrafin more?

Just know that scum is probably going to shoot through my protection anyway just to fuck with me

That would be a good scenario in my book as it clears TW.

Point is you protecting anyone forces scum to make a decision. Either confirm that they do in fact have strongman which is probably also a ninja. Or they might have redirector possibly. Or they will shoot someone else which means they keep you alive. That is why it is infinitely better in my book than you holstering. Especially that conftowning you does nothing for me because I trust that you're town but I don't trust anyone else more than you which means I can't believe them for sure if they clear you.

[BuJaber]

Oh between kthx and TW i don't think it matters. Just don't waste it on IB.

[the worst]

Use it on Kthx

[the worst]

Well you CAN protect me if you want but I trust you more to NKA that shit if I die

[BuJaber]

Actually nevermind even protecting IB could force scum to kill someone else which would be a more useful flip.

Okay just pick any of them lol.

[Mathdino]

the worst, who are your options for clearing people tonight?

Marangal would probably be my ideal call

[the worst]

Twinning!!! Mara or you if you think there is a strong man

[the worst]

Just instruct me/ask questions and I will make witty prod dodge comments

Night action analysis and non chaotic thinking makes me tired v quickly but if I somehow sneak through to LyLo I'll put in more effort. z_z

[Gamma Emerald]

Yup. I definitely JK'd mastina, so there is a strongman unless mastina's roleblock had priority over my jailkeep.

@Gamma: what's the resolution of a JK and a RB that target each other?

VOTE: BuJaber
Half sheeping Dino's gamesolve. Half I had some suspicions before anyway.

Both actions would resolve simultaneously, not prevent each other but preventing further actions.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma Emerald:

Is the Carrot & Stick kill flavour game-relevant?

I decline to answer this question.

[Mathdino]

Okay well the jail went through.

VOTE: Beefster
the worst checks Marangal
Marangal holsters
Kthx follows Bujaber
Bujaber visits Kthxbye
Not_Mafia checks InfernoBrafin
Mathdino protects the worst

We're lynching Beefster by play rather than by mechanics, so I'm good with this. Reasonable argument for no-lynching but that seems nonideal.

[Beefster]

:shrug:

[Beefster]

Wait, so NM motion detected Momrangal and saw nothing (because she holstered), right?

Doesn't that clear her from the NK? That is unless she's a Ninja

and

a Strongman. Or there are actually 4 mafia.

It seems a bit silly to me to have to check her if that was the case.

I think the worst's investigate would be better spent on BuJ.

How does the action plan change if I flip green?

[Mathdino]

The plan doesn't change.

the worst can only check people not performing night actions. Bujaber compulsively performs night actions. He can only check me or Marangal.

N_M did in fact motion detect Marangal, which leaves the option open that N_M is just scum with Marangal. Hence the second opinion.

We'll probably have to no-lynch at some point in order to get more clears, but c'est la vie.