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Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:42 am

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In post 2026, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1981, Almost50 wrote:FWIW, my top town reads are: brass (obviously) >> ranmaru > Nero (unfortunately) > Shaziro
Why the hard townread on ran ?
Because his start to the game was genuinely townie to the point I cannot imagine him faking it. I can't explain beyond this bc I might be breaking some rule.

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Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:43 am

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Going to read now
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:44 am

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In post 2054, Nero Cain wrote:you were lurking d1, A50. Just get over yourself. You say and do scummy shit every game. You can't really get mad @ ppl for calling you scum when you act like it.
that sink to discreiting tho
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now that I'm not trying to focus down A50 I can vote you
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Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:45 am

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In post 2038, Titus wrote:
In post 2036, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1967, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1880, Nero Cain wrote:Joey, is Bujaber scum for trying to force a town read on Dunk by claiming he was the same role as koki?
He is 100% Scum with Creature, yes
. And he will now stop posting and replace out (a tactic he uses when he's scum and under pressure, and I'm wondering what happened to the "tactical scum replace out are prohibited and will get you banned" rule)
Just to be honest here. The bolded still stands IMHO. The rest I was mixing BuJ with someone else.
Why is Bujaber red scum as opposed to orange scum?
READ THE BLOODY THREAD. ISO me for the case (it's in the same post where I fully claimed)

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Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:45 am

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Now I see why Varsoon was pushing that scummy multiball stuff. Hahaha
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Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:46 am

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In post 2059, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1986, brassherald wrote:Ranmaru is a good town read... Can we make him one of the hosts?
HEAL: ranmaru
HEAL: ranmaru
Eh I don't like this autovote when brass is still an option
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Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:47 am

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In post 2075, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2026, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1981, Almost50 wrote:FWIW, my top town reads are: brass (obviously) >> ranmaru > Nero (unfortunately) > Shaziro
Why the hard townread on ran ?
Because his start to the game was genuinely townie to the point I cannot imagine him faking it. I can't explain beyond this bc I might be breaking some rule.
So meta related?
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Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:48 am

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In post 2044, brassherald wrote:If there is a hider, I'd be a pretty good target last night.
Pretty good for the Hider to survive, but certainly not the ideal play for the role. Hiders are always supposed to try to SCUM HUNT by crumbing a suspected target and trying ton hide behind them.

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Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:50 am

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In post 2074, Chara wrote:VOTE: Gamma

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Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:51 am

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In post 2082, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2044, brassherald wrote:If there is a hider, I'd be a pretty good target last night.
Pretty good for the Hider to survive, but certainly not the ideal play for the role. Hiders are always supposed to try to SCUM HUNT by crumbing a suspected target and trying ton hide behind them.
So if no one claimed hider, why are we discussing this?
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Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:53 am

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In post 2054, Nero Cain wrote:you were lurking d1, A50. Just get over yourself. You say and do scummy shit every game. You can't really get mad @ ppl for calling you scum when you act like it.
I can. When they do it in every game, and they're proven wrong in every game yet they keep on do it, then YES I CAN.

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Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:54 am

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In post 1898, BuJaber wrote:My read wasn't dumb let's go dunk flipped scum koki is probably scum.
Yes I HARD bussed my role blocker when dunk was some religion useless mafia. Great call
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Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:55 am

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By the way. I should be one of the hosts today.
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Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:56 am

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In post 2087, Kokichi Oma wrote:By the way. I should be one of the hosts today.
No. I'd challenge you. Good things happen when I was leader.

Who else besides you?
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Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:57 am

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I think I want Titus as leader and brass as runner up
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Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:58 am

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In post 2084, Titus wrote:So if no one claimed hider, why are we discussing this?
if no one claimed hider, why did you think Almost did?
it's the same sort of question. it came up because Joda asked if Almost targeting brass could be for something besides the religion, i believe.

pedit: i'm happy with Kokichi as leader, but in the absence of my willingness to towncase him, Joey is just easier. though i kind of regret voting now, because Joey's reading comprehension has not been the best so far.
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Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:58 am

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I dont want Titus for the sole reason that im being slightly paranoid at the slot and i disliked some of her content even if overall i think shes town.
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Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:59 am

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In post 2090, Chara wrote:
In post 2084, Titus wrote:So if no one claimed hider, why are we discussing this?
if no one claimed hider, why did you think Almost did?
it's the same sort of question. it came up because Joda asked if Almost targeting brass could be for something besides the religion, i believe.

pedit: i'm happy with Kokichi as leader, but in the absence of my willingness to towncase him, Joey is just easier. though i kind of regret voting now, because Joey's reading comprehension has not been the best so far.
i blame Almost.
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Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:00 am

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In post 1984, BuJaber wrote:I now believe it is scummier to defend than koki than to be koki in this game. Hooray for koki. Koki if you're town agree with me okay they're buddying you. If you're scum can you NK me please? I don't want to keep trying to talk people into it unsuccessfully.


Pedit- A50 do you mind continuing this reads list ?
Is it possible his reads are so bad it can't come from scum? Scum would have better awareness right?
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Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:00 am

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In post 2090, Chara wrote:
In post 2084, Titus wrote:So if no one claimed hider, why are we discussing this?
if no one claimed hider, why did you think Almost did?
it's the same sort of question. it came up because Joda asked if Almost targeting brass could be for something besides the religion, i believe.

pedit: i'm happy with Kokichi as leader, but in the absence of my willingness to towncase him, Joey is just easier. though i kind of regret voting now, because Joey's reading comprehension has not been the best so far.
i blame Almost.
Wanna vote Kokichi with me ?
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Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:00 am

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In post 2090, Chara wrote:
In post 2084, Titus wrote:So if no one claimed hider, why are we discussing this?
if no one claimed hider, why did you think Almost did?
it's the same sort of question. it came up because Joda asked if Almost targeting brass could be for something besides the religion, i believe.

pedit: i'm happy with Kokichi as leader, but in the absence of my willingness to towncase him, Joey is just easier. though i kind of regret voting now, because Joey's reading comprehension has not been the best so far.
i blame Almost.
All the votes on him and the discussion seemed to imply he did.

@Joey, That's ok. I'm not really wanting leadership now due to my IRL.

Shaz wanting me as leader when he's a really large SR for me is also wtf.
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Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:01 am

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It's more that I don't want Koichi.
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Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:02 am

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In post 2096, Titus wrote:It's more that I don't want Koichi.
Because you don't trust his competence of you aren"t sure of his alignement ?
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Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:03 am

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Welcome to Gamma Emerald's Fun-tastic Name Game!

This is the part of the show where I, Gamma Emerald, present to you all the names of those present in the game with each name color-coded to give you an idea of what alignment I believe them to be! Next to these names will be descriptions of what they have done that I find noteworthy! Let the Name Game begin!


Varsoon
- Was the one who gave a big presentation on the game being multiball, which now that he has flipped a different mafia than someone else was most likely signalling! His scumread on Klazam based on his multiball speculation was very likely to be genuine, as such it is logical to conlude that Klazam and Varsoon are not aligned on the same scumteam!
Nero Cain
- I dug through some Day 1 wagon data and it seems Nero and Dunker went at it a bit. As such I don't believe they're aligned, and since I'm scumreading Nero for his fabricated push on my opinion on the relationship between Kokichi and Dunker I believe Nero to be orange scum.
Kiana Kaslana
- This might be one of the least active people in the game, at least that are still alive, amirite Creature? I myself have been really hoping to see their unique input on this game, but that possibility is looking slimmer and slimmer as time goes on.
brassherald
- The Innocent Child of this game, was host day 1. He really should be host today as well but for some reason, he doesn't think so!
BuJaber
- This guy has been feeling like mafia to me since the beginning, but now I feel like I've something concrete on him. He recently tried to push Kokichi and Nero as teammates. I feel like this was a scummy push as I believe Kokichi was spewed the opposite by Nero before this comment was made by Bu. I don't feel like Bu would tie one of his own team to someone but someone he's reading as on the other team could very likely be chosen for that type of curvy-swervy! As such I have BuJaber as red scum.
Kokichi Oma
- From interactions across both day I see that Kokichi is not alinged with BuJaber and Nero Cain in certain ways. BuJaber went after Kokichi pretty fervently Day 1, and Nero's recent context-mangling ende up spewing the fact Nero honestly believed Kokichi to be town.
Creature
- Lynched Day 1 and flipped mafia, all according to keikaku
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! I kid I kid. He was very clearly flipping mafia even though I had started to have doubts midway through. Interesting to see him not put up a fight as the role he was though, it makes sense that his buddies would defend him, which we know happened!
Chara
- Overall, I believe they have felt fairly towny. One thing in particular that makes me think this is when Almost50 engaged with them, they responed with a feeling of inquisitiveness rather than any sort of bias! At least that's what I make of the situation.
Elbirn
- Died Night 1, flipped some sort of permanent bodyguard. Part of his role mentions a weak targeting power which has people in a frenzy about what it could mean for who he targeted!
Gamma Emerald
- The host of this show and a fabulous person, if I do say so myself! Their interactions with Dunkerdoodles make them a very clear no-go for possibly being on the red team, so those looking to remove him must try to put him with the orange team!
Klazam
- I feel like his pushing of the Elbirn pseudo-guilty on me is the most slimy and opportunistic! Given specific wagon interactions with BuJaber I saw in Day 1 analysis I think Klazam is the opposite team, making him orange scum!
Titus
- Has generally felt like town, however I'm not sure if their suspicion on me has been a constant or fluctuating element of their thinking!
Shaziro
- Feels like scum but I have no idea which! His constant bashing against a wall about not wanting to let the host die to not lose the votes feels like feeding misinformation.
ActionDan
- I don't know about this guy, I want to town read him but he's also not felt very present so far. Maybe we could see that change?
Joey_
- I feel like his attempts to sort have been genuine. Also while I cannot make a definite statement on this matter I also cannot ignore the possibility Nero's rolefishing poke at Joey might have been a shading attempt that fell apart.
Dunkerdoodles
- Died Night 1 and flipped scum with Creature. This person fought tooth and nail to prevent a creature wagon, but that may have been the last nail in his own coffin after Creature flipped red mafia! As stated earlier, his eagerness to step to his biddy's defense was likely motivated by Fear Of Losing Your Power Role!
pidgey
- Had a major league derp on Day 1, and that got them a fairly universal townread! Also seems to be claiming a sort of missionary, like Almost50 is! What shall become of this? Addendum: I think given his current claim he'd be a rather good candidate for a scum religious missionary. I've studied the Spanish Inquisition, and I know 2 things about them. Number one, that no one ever expects them, and number two, that they were rather brutal when it came to chasing down heretics! As such I see their unscrupulous methods result in them taking an anti-town alignment. I could just be paranoid of a flavor bit that seems a bit dark for town though.
Jodaxq
- Amazing, this person has posted less than Creature, even though they've had more opportunity toDespite this, I feel like they could be town, I feel like Joda might actually be a person who lurks more as town than as scum!
Almost50
- A rather interesting specimen, this man claims to be a Taoist missionary! I didn't know those existed. Anyway, he claims to have visited brassherald day 1. This could be interesting because it's very possible his role is one that would aim to target as much players as possible in order to win, and brass is obviously someone a lot of players wish to keep around. However, just because there is a fringe possibility that Almost50 is a sneaky fiend doesn't mean I believe he is. He has been very consistent about giving clues to what his powers are!
ranmaru
- On Day 1, marshy said ranmaru was playing outside of his scumrange, and that is something I can certainly agree to! He has been asking many questions, and I feel a lot of them have been sensible! In addition I don't see any indicators that he is playing like the mafia version of himself that I caught in The Thing Mafia!

As you can see I've got a rather tight set of reads. That is not to say they are locked in place, as if one of my major scumreads flips as town I will most likely be reconsidering some of these! Thank you all for tuning in to...

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Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:03 am

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In post 2088, Titus wrote:
In post 2087, Kokichi Oma wrote:By the way. I should be one of the hosts today.
No. I'd challenge you. Good things happen when I was leader.

Who else besides you?
??? You did nothing. You didn't even want creature.
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