Open 713: Jungle Republic [Game Over]

[Montosh]

If he's not WW, why push this dumb leash idea? It's obviously anti-town.

He could be mafia, but mafia have no way to know that I'm not WW, and they'd want a WW lynched. Ok, even if NM is mafia, I think that Esp or tchill is probably his partner. Maybe tchill sheeps his partner outright, maybe not, and there's too much WIFOM to sort through with that at this point. Esp isn't here though, and lurkiness is scummy. So with that and by process of elimination.

VOTE: Espeonage

You're probably bad.

[Not_Mafia]

Not sure Montosh can be trusted to make a good NK, the night 1 and night 3 kills were terrible from a wolf perspective

[Tchill13]

Day 2 I was dead set on an NM lynch. He's lynched mafia and ww since.

I think you're the WW montosh and you're fighting back. There's no reason for nm to bus wilky like that though. That's a bad thought process.

[Tchill13]

Whoever the last WW is did make a terrible night 3 kill.

[Montosh]

Right, but why am I WW? I would have cast less suspicion by not hammering, and looking back that probably would have been a better decision, but I felt like the day wasn't going to be useful any more, so why wait?

And why would I then kill skitter? That's bound to cast suspicion on me.

I do not think it is beyond NM to bus his partner from RVS. You think he's obvtown now.

If it's not NM, then it's probably beef. If you or Esp are scum then you're probably mafia.

[Tchill13]

Idk i was suspicious of you on catch up and I'm not sure how you're linked to skitter.

I'm willing to let NM ride a couple days out if he bussed his partner straight from rvs.

I'm fine with a beef lynch.

[Montosh]

Ok think about it though, NM was making posts against wilky from RVS (interesting random choice), but he went along with other lynches and didn't seem that interested in pushing a wilky lynch until it became sorta obvious where the wind was blowing.

Though wait, how did NM lynch mafia? He wasn't the main one pushing A50.

[Montosh]

Skitter was preparing for a case against me as WW if wilky flipped WW. Killing her would cast suspicion on me, and I'm not gonna go so deep into WIFOM to think otherwise.

We don't have a couple days. Best thing to do is probably to kill mafia, but I think beef is more likely to be WW than mafia, based off votes and elimination.

[Not_Mafia]

So now you want to lynch mafia and follow my plan?

[Montosh]

I've said from the beginning that we probably should Lynch mafia. I can't follow the rest of your plan since that requires to me to have a night kill. I also think that beef is more likely to be werewolf than mafia.

[Not_Mafia]

But you now agree with going after mafia today and forcing Wolf to try and NK Mafia?

[Montosh]

Again, I said that from the beginning of the day. Yes.

[Montosh]

I don't know with enough certainty who the wolf is right now to not do that.

[Beefster]

I should ISO Montosh so I can sheep correctly.

[Not_Mafia]

Will lynch Beefster or Thor today

[Beefster]

VOTE: wilky

Read through his ISO, yeah definitely went after low-hanging fruit. I'll give this one a go.

Looks like a reluctant bus.

VOTE: Montosh

It's a sheepable wagon.

[Beefster]

Thor's a good option as well, but not as good as Montosh.

[Not_Mafia]

Would you rather lynch wolf or mafia?

[Thor665]

If we leash Montosh

Mafia lynch - Mafia NK = Lynch Montosh and win
Town Lynch - Mafia NK / Mafia Lynch - Town NK = Town forces no lynch and Montosh is forced to aim for scum, then we lynch Montosh and win
Town Lynch - Town NK = Mafia win

If we lynch Montosh we go straight to LyLo

In your examples;

1. That's the same as my plan, but with a different order.
2. That actually puts us in mylo - same as my plan, but runs the risk of a quick Mafia victory at 1v1v1 which mine doesn't.
3. That is the same as my plan, except with a NK town doesn't control.

What are you even smoking with this plan?
Mafia do benefit leaving the Wolf alive very slightly if they're gunning for a slightly quicker 1v1v1 and are counting on bad wolf kills, but it's still risky.
But for town it is abjectly stupid.
Which alingment are you claiming again? Town, right?

Lynch the obv. wolf, derpwad - and learn to play.

[Thor665]

I'm guessing Tchill/NM Mafia, frankly.
Two people trying to claim that they don't want to lynch a busted Wolf and "leash" him off no actual mathematic benefit except to a Mafia team?
C'mon.

[Montosh]

I'm not a wolf. I'm leaning tchill/Esp as mafia.

Thor, what do you think about the skitter kill?

[Not_Mafia]

I don't think we can win if Thor is town, fingers crossed he's mafia

[Thor665]

I'm not a wolf. I'm leaning tchill/Esp as mafia.

Thor, what do you think about the skitter kill?

My presumption was to set me up - Skitter's last claim yesterday was that I should be lynched if she died.

[Thor665]

Also the slot was pretty obviously not a Wolf, so in that vein it was generically an okay shot, I suppose.

[Thor665]

I don't think we can win if Thor is town, fingers crossed he's mafia

Is this the extent of your rebuttal for me pointing out your plan is nonsensical?
I literally just showed that town has more control and sway of the vote than a theory leash, and also that the theory leash doesn't actually enhance any wincon except Mafia.

And you got nothing.
Lynch the Wolf.