Mini 1997: The Clownspiracy (Game Over!)

[Raskolnikov]

VOTE: beefster
Phoneposting but this guy is 1000% fake

[Beefster]

Rask pointed out that he was weirded out by the lack of townhunting. Engage townhunting mode:

I think Cedrick is town.
I have a town lean on brassherald. I'm not really sure how to explain it.
I recall quite a few criticisms on Kiana's "point system" scumhunting. It's not AI. I've done it both as town and as scum. Her methods might be strange, but they're not scummy. Slight town lean here for making good points on 191 and 192

pedit: I see the pot is calling the kettle black.

[Raskolnikov]

You are making a show of everything you are doing.

[Beefster]

And you're not?

*raises eyebrow*

You've sort of been blowing everything out of proportion.

[Gamma Emerald]

I recall quite a few criticisms on Kiana's "point system" scumhunting. It's not AI. I've done it both as town and as scum. Her methods might be strange, but they're not scummy. Slight town lean here for making good points on 191 and 192

The system isn't horrible but Kiana didn't seem to ask much questions, and it's kinda against meta for her to do that method

[Raskolnikov]

I made one error in judgment, your entrance wasn't as AI as it seemed because of a faulty assumption I shouldn't get into (240).

Right now your posting is hard pinging me. I really feel like it's manufactured content...

[Raskolnikov]

Okay though. Is it normal for you to talk like this?
Like it's so storytelly.

[Raskolnikov]

Why do you have a problem with arch vote sheeping you

[Beefster]

It seemed out of place since he was suspicious of me not long before.

[Raskolnikov]

A lot happened since my last post...

Rask is still as confusing as ever. Arch is looking more suspicious for some reason.

Why am I confusing, of all things?

[Wh4t]

Beefster can you please give some scum reads? I only note Rask in your ISO.

Rask, now that you've seen Maki and Kokichi interact, what are your thoughts?

[Wh4t]

town to scum,

{archwing}
{bujaber, koki, stef}
{cedrick, maki}
{wh4t, gamma, brass, kaito, beef} ****
{kiana, rask}

* = null line. above it are slight townleans, nothing more.

If I break down Arch's readlist with game interactions I draw the following conclusions:

Koki cannot be a buddy.
Stefan is not a likely buddy. (224)
Cedrick is not a likely buddy. (122)
Gamma is unlikely but possible. (267)
Brass is not a likely buddy (197,265)
Kiana cannot be a buddy.

That leaves Rask who could potentially be a scum buddy, and that doesn't take into account that Arch is currently voting to lynch him. Who really knows what Beef and Kaito are thinking.

So unless we're willing to accept some combination of {Arch, Rask, Beef, Kaito} or believe scum are bussing; I'm thinking Arch is more likely lost town when looking solely through this perspective.

[Wh4t]

I really think arch is jester here. He's just too scummy.

Oh, I omitted BuJaber as a likely buddy.

[Raskolnikov]

Hey, I was waiting if kiana would spec that.

[Raskolnikov]

Rask, now that you've seen Maki and Kokichi interact, what are your thoughts?

Beyond a prob not teamed not too too much. Kokichi is better though. Maki reads are kinda ???

[Raskolnikov]

You know, I wouldn't go as far as saying kiana arch is cleared because arch put kiana low in his list and kiana voted arch. If anything kiana had more reasons to vote me.

[Raskolnikov]

Actually you know what. Scum probably isn't all pushing me to various degrees.

[Wh4t]

You know, I wouldn't go as far as saying kiana arch is cleared because arch put kiana low in his list and kiana voted arch. If anything kiana had more reasons to vote me.

A few of Kiana's reasons to scum read you were founded on bias, and thus not as strong a reason. I don't see a reason for Scum Kiana to come in, build a case and then vote her buddy. If she had been here from the start and decided she scum read him when others did then that would be feasable. IME scum pushes are usually pretty weak/baseless/unnatural. I can see why people are suspicious of Arch currently.

[Beefster]

Beefster can you please give some scum reads? I only note Rask in your ISO.

Rask - overly defensive, overreacting
Archwing - overreacting to the whole miller claim situation. Odd follow of me after previously suspecting me. Seems to be going after low hanging fruit. Would vote.
Wh4t - I forget why. Just a lean.
Gamma - very slight scum lean. Toneread/gut. Looks pretty normal for him, so it's probably nothing.

A lot of the player list looks scummy and accusations have been flying around so there's a lot of noise. They can't all be scum, so I'll just put them in the "null" bin for now.

[Raskolnikov]

VOTE: Kiana

[Raskolnikov]

Okay though. Is it normal for you to talk like this?
Like it's so storytelly.

At home now, it is normal >__>

[Kiana Kaslana]

Hi, I am back.

VOTE: kiana

Was going to wait for response first but I have mixed feelings on arch wagon.
Feels like overexaggerating reads and really trying to get hard judgments where it doesn't feel realistic. There is some complexity to her credit but I'm not feeling it as genuine.

VOTE: Kiana

Wow, my scumread is voting me. Congratulations, your scumpoints have been doubled. It proves that I'm right on the mark.

[Kiana Kaslana]

Ras Has 33 post, content:

i think it's best to ignore the claim for now, vote was rvs

at last for the first 12 votes, am I missing something?

I figured out why this game feels a little weird. Usually there's both scumhunting and townhunting/cohesion, but here it's like all scumhunting.

That is somethink else that I found interesting, how much do people activly townhunt in this game on the first 24 hours, for me that is the moment when my reads are very smal.

Okay there are some reads, but for this many posts there is very little substance.

VOTE: Raskolnikov

Can be that I am chancing my mind when I am true with every player.

Townpoints for this good vote, but

Actually

Unvote

:

I don't know how I feel about Beefster pushing it and Archwing following.

It was removed within two posts. Nothing could have possibly happened within these two posts, so not only the townpoints have been rescinded, but there is also a penalty. The vote almost feels like a scam to earn townpoints but actually wanting to vote correct scum Raskol. So, in total this gained some scumpoints.

[Kiana Kaslana]

Cedric and Kiana (will have to be very careful not to confusse all the players with Anime-names, sorry If I do): Both are still on my list for closer inspection, I am not sure what to make of them.

How is Cedric an anime name? It's a very common western name, please do not give excuses as to why you may not want to form a read on the towniest player on my list. Kiana isn't a common name but it isn't necessarily an anime/Japanese name either. I mean, in my case it is, but it's the same situation as Naomi, which happens to be a common African American name as well.

I find it difficult to believe you cannot come to a conclusion to, in my perspective, the exact two towniest people in the game. Scumpoints.

[Kiana Kaslana]

btw never lynch wh4t this game.

Wh'/?

Is it because you have knowledge that he is town because you are scum? It really seems like it. I am townreading Wh4t, but I cannot see anybody ever being so confident about a townread on Page 4, unless they are scum and know it for a fact.

Big scumpoints.

I mean, you could like, ask about the read but okay MASSIVE scumpoints.

Why. Wh'/. Don't get the joke? Loser.

Giving fake scumpoints, gets you more scumpoints. I already asked.