Mini 1997: The Clownspiracy (Game Over!)

[Kiana Kaslana]

Do you not find suspicious the fact that Raskol scumreads Beefster for asking about Ronald Mcdonald but turns a blind eye to Stefan (coincidentally, a scumread of mine too) who blatantly rolefishes for both flavour and role?

Okay, so this is actually showing some level of thinking. Stefan's reaction made more sense in the moment and he was very upfront. Beefster asked in joking way wrt me and like put bullshit shade on maki for being miller.

Trying to townread me now because he knows I am town and correctly caught him. He cannot possibly force a lynch on me without himself getting exposed pretty badly. Add on to the fact that literally nobody, except him, is voting me, puts him in a very bad spot. Even more scumpoints.

[Kiana Kaslana]

And the rolefishing:

I didn't rolefish!!!!!!!!

I asked if the claim was real or a joke. (We were in RVS and I don't know the players involved)
I asked for a name with the claim and if there was a reason why this person is a miller.

I have only very old meta on millers. My main meta is unfortunatly tigereaten. And if I remember correctly as a miller I was grilled more than once about the last point. (It was a soccer-Upick and I chose a German player, but the mods were fans of England)
I thought those question as standard. I see now that my plan is outdated in that fashion.

Then I asked why Maki did not remember the name of her role.

Can any of you who are stating I was rolefishing how any of this was going after the role? What is the reason for a potential mafia-me to do that?

What is the reason for a potential mafia to learn a townie's role? Hmm, I wonder. Maybe so that it will give you information and know whether Maki is a threat to shoot tonight or not.

[Raskolnikov]

Kiana is so over the top I almost feel she might be trolling, but there's no motivation for it.

[Kiana Kaslana]

btw never lynch wh4t this game.

Wh'/?

Is it because you have knowledge that he is town because you are scum? It really seems like it. I am townreading Wh4t, but I cannot see anybody ever being so confident about a townread on Page 4, unless they are scum and know it for a fact.

Big scumpoints.

I mean, you could like, ask about the read but okay MASSIVE scumpoints.

You know what that's probably why I don't like it: it's making reads rather than asking questions and legitimately sorting.
VOTE: Kiana Kaslana

Scumpoints to you for this bad vote. Why would I ask questions to my scumreads if I know they're already scum? I don't see a need. Why are you protecting Raskol anyhow. That's bonus scumpoints for you. You're taken off the townreads list.

[Kiana Kaslana]

Do you not find suspicious the fact that Raskol scumreads Beefster for asking about Ronald Mcdonald but turns a blind eye to Stefan (coincidentally, a scumread of mine too) who blatantly rolefishes for both flavour and role?

Okay, so this is actually showing some level of thinking. Stefan's reaction made more sense in the moment and he was very upfront. Beefster asked in joking way wrt me and like put bullshit shade on maki for being miller.

or maybe not?
UNVOTE:

The scumpoints have been rescinded for now, but you get a small penalty for semi-protecting Raskol.

[Kiana Kaslana]

Arch has 34 posts, I see a few "reaction tests" and no scum hunting.

VOTE: Arch

Townpoints to brassherald for this good vote.

[Kiana Kaslana]

Sorry buddy.

VOTE: Archwing

I would usually give townpoints for this good vote, but there is a maximum cap on these. Since Wh4t already hit the cap, it can't go higher from this small gesture. But, a pat on the back for you.

[Kiana Kaslana]

town to scum,

{archwing}
{bujaber, koki, stef}
{cedrick, maki}
{wh4t, gamma, brass, kaito, beef} ****
{kiana, rask}

* = null line. above it are slight townleans, nothing more.

BuJaber bothers me because he seemed to be pandering to Kiana on his entrance e.g. his read on Stefan. It also bothered me that he had me as his only scum lean, yet he voted for Rask (again following Kiana's lead) for something he termed strange. When I pushed him to explain his scum read on me, he talked to me from the perspective he knew I was town. I mean, telling someone that their playstyle is "aggressive" and that it's not the best way to get responses from others is not a valid reason to scumread someone even if accurate. It felt like he was trying quite unnaturally to be reasonable to both me and those reading his posts (200,201). I find both his intent and approach suspect towards me.

In regards to Arch, he called him too scummy and reasoned that he must but a jester; however when Gamma pointed out that Jesters do not exist in this set-up, he said thanks but neglected to readjust his read of you.

In summary, so far it's all trying to look good and busy without actually doing anything I'd consder towny.

In fact I'm more confident in my BuJaber read than I am of my read on you.

VOTE: BuJaber

Arch what are your thoughts on BuJaber? He looks like a big town read to you.

Pat on the back rescinded for this vote. Why are you scumreading Bujaber? He has townpoints. I don't agree that following my reads is bad, when the fact is that my reads are good. This optimal to play to wincon.

[Kiana Kaslana]

don't really like kiana's intro, but probtown

...??What?

Good catch. Archwing calls me "probtown" but then in that nonsensical reads list he puts me as scum. Obviously, I've caught Archwing too, so he has no choice but to scumread me. Townpoints to Kokichi, massive scumpoints to Archwing.

[Kiana Kaslana]

I recall quite a few criticisms on Kiana's "point system" scumhunting. It's not AI. I've done it both as town and as scum. Her methods might be strange, but they're not scummy. Slight town lean here for making good points on 191 and 192

The system isn't horrible but Kiana didn't seem to ask much questions, and it's kinda against meta for her to do that method

What do you know about my meta? The only completed game we have involved you self-hammering my slot and throwing the game for town.

[Raskolnikov]

Congratulations, your scumpoints have been doubled. It proves that I'm right on the mark.

What's the maximum number of scumpoints?

[Kiana Kaslana]

V2

Lady Kiana Kaslana

Town

Cedrick

+++++

Kokichi Oma

+++

Wh4t

++

brassherald

++

Bujaber

+

Gamma Emerald

0.5

Beefster

0

Maki Harukawa

<3

Kaito Momota

0

StefanB

---

Raskolnikov

-----

Archwing

------

Scum

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[Kiana Kaslana]

Congratulations, your scumpoints have been doubled. It proves that I'm right on the mark.

What's the maximum number of scumpoints?

You'll be dead before you hit the max, don't worry about it.

[Wh4t]

VOTE: Kiana Kaslana

Why are you not rescinding BuJaber's townpoints for his scum read on me Princess?

I think I've had enough of the false bravado.

[Kokichi Oma]

Today ends in an Arch lynch.

[Kokichi Oma]

Kiana is an okay lynch I guess, but I want Arch flipped.

[Kiana Kaslana]

VOTE: Kiana Kaslana

Why are you not rescinding BuJaber's townpoints for his scum read on me Princess?

I think I've had enough of the false bravado.

I might have missed it. Let me take a look.

[Kiana Kaslana]

I have looked. Bujaber didn't vote you, so he doesn't get scumpoints. In fact, I think he is trying to pressure you and sort you, which should usually get him townpoints, but he is doing in a non-alignment indicative way, so that's no points. Have I answered your question?

[Kiana Kaslana]

I'm tempted to give free townpoints to people who call me Princess Kiana but we all know how well that worked out the last time.

[Kiana Kaslana]

Kiana is an okay lynch I guess, but I want Arch flipped.

Why is Kiana an okay lynch?

I'm voting Arch with you, perhaps even before you, do you think we're bussing?

[Maki Harukawa]

What is your read on Arch

@Maki answer

*points to reads list*

[Kiana Kaslana]

<3

[Maki Harukawa]

Can't tell if I can't see why Kiana is scum out of bias or I really can't see it.
Can someone explain to me why she's scum danke.

[Raskolnikov]

Scumpoints to you for this bad vote. Why would I ask questions to my scumreads if I know they're already scum? I don't see a need. Why are you protecting Raskol anyhow. That's bonus scumpoints for you. You're taken off the townreads list.

Hmmmmm

[Kiana Kaslana]

Can't tell if I can't see why Kiana is scum out of bias or I really can't see it.
Can someone explain to me why she's scum danke.

Only scum are scumreading me dearie~