Mini Normal 1996: Floral Mafia [Endgame!]

[northsidegal]

VC 1.16

votes

implosion

(2): Mumble, Hopkirk

Mumble

(5): implosion, Havo, Gamma Emerald, Cedrick, Tchill13

Ausuka

(1): Creature

Luca Blight

(4): Ausuka, MariaR, Killthestory, katherine

killthestory

(1): Luca Blight

Not Voting

(0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

The day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2018-03-22 19:42:59)

Mod Notes

: Cedrick is V/LA until Monday.

This votecount was edited to correct an error. For clarity, the uncorrected votecount is here:

Spoiler:

votes

implosion

(1): Mumble

Mumble

(5): implosion, Havo, Gamma Emerald, Cedrick, Tchill13

Ausuka

(1): Creature

Luca Blight

(4): Ausuka, MariaR, Killthestory, katherine

killthestory

(1): Luca Blight

Implosion

(1): Hopkirk

Not Voting

(0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

The day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2018-03-22 19:42:59)

[Creature]

(meh, you can delete 999 if you want pagetop)

[Tchill13]

Why do you townread Implosion?

His thoughts progressed similar to mine early in his iso.

[implosion]

I want to hear how Cedrick and Implosion read each other.

Town. In short, a lot of the indignance he's displayed would be really difficult to fake as scum, e.g. 371 makes no sense to me as either scum->town or scum->scum

[Cedrick]

Can someone towncase one of them.

That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works.

Town out numbers scum. So you have to be able to make a scum case on somebody not the other way around. If you want to try and make one on me I’d love to hear it. I was very active early on and pushed on my scum reads (kts and tchill). I was very transparent with them and even gave alternatives to those to help progress the game (havo, mumble, and maybe a 3rd can’t remember). I even voted to pressure mumble to see if he’d post more and he didn’t.

Then kts insulted me. I stood up for myself and got warned by the mod. I asked the mod if kts got warned and was ignored. Literally nobody wants to lynch my scum reads. Nobody seems to want to lynch my secondary reads and I can’t even push my top scum read anymore for fear I’ll get mod killed or replaced.


If that makes me scum. String me up and lynch me. It’ll help progress the game more than me replacing out. At least I can hope people listen to me after I’m gone.

I’ll try and check in when I can but no promises.

[Tchill13]

Cedrick do you still scum read KTS? I will happily lynch him.

[Gamma Emerald]

So I have a stuuuuuupid theory. So there's actually a thread in mafia discussion called something like "ethics of scumplay". Basically the point of it is to argue whether questionable things can be excused in the name of scumplay such as toxicity. Here's the application: what if only Cedrick got warned for being toxic because KTS is scum and has that leeway to behave however he wants?

[Gamma Emerald]

and btw I'm not saying I believe this

yet

, but I am willing to hold it as something to consider

[Cedrick]

Yes I still want him lynched but in full disclosure once I was warned it became a little more personal so I’m a little biased. I just dropped it because nobody else was on board and I’d rather not waste my time anymore.

[Cedrick]

So I have a stuuuuuupid theory. So there's actually a thread in mafia discussion called something like "ethics of scumplay". Basically the point of it is to argue whether questionable things can be excused in the name of scumplay such as toxicity. Here's the application: what if only Cedrick got warned for being toxic because KTS is scum and has that leeway to behave however he wants?

I was warned because I took HIS words of him walking a line between aggressive and asshole and said he crossed it and has been an asshole. I was referring to his play this game and using his words but apparently that was a personal attack despite him saying things about me that weren’t true.

He made a post very early on that I felt was a partial scum slip and part unintelligible. I asked him to repeat himself in a sort of humorous way. I said English please? Because the sentence while containing some English also included a word I’ve never seen before (glgl)

Somehow that was me “throwing a childish tantrum” which imo is a very bad response considering he ignored me.

He made a couple of posts and he didn’t explain it to me so i voted him. I didn’t see why town him would ignore a simple request. He later said that was me “baiting him all game” when all I was doing was trying to understand what he was saying.

To this day I don’t think he ever responded or explained what he said. To me the first part was him saying he rolled village but village isn’t a term to describe town in the flavor of this game. The “glgl me” still has me baffled.

I don’t think he has done anything unethically. I also don’t think I deserved a warning since I kept my words game related as did he. I really fault the mod for not recognizing if me using his own words is “attacking a player” then him saying I’m throwing a childish tantrum would technically be an attack.

I’m in a bad mood lately so maybe I took his post too seriously but I honestly felt his play this game crosses over the line that HE SAYS he walks.

At this point I’m over it. I just don’t want to leave the game I’m heavily invested it over a petty argument. I’m definitely expended more into day one than I should have to and it doesn’t seem to have been productive so I’ll let the better players do the work and if they decide on somebody I’m suspicious of I’ll vote there. Alternatively if somebody posts a slam dunk case to make me consider somebody I haven’t, I’ll go that route also but nobody seems to have a really good case. I don’t either though.

[Hopkirk]

I want to find solid townreads first.
That's as significant to the game as forming scumreads.

Having subbed in, I'd prefer not to scumcase on anyone until I've had a chance to finish rereading, and to engage with them. Very preferably, regarding content that occured after I subbed in.

I should reread the interaction, but I don't see why scum-Cedric doesn't make 371. If you could explain a little more there that would be useful.
I can see Cedrick of any alignment getting frustrated post a warning.

[Hopkirk]

Like, scum can get irritated with playstyles of townies too. Nothing in 371 reads as town perspective over just annoyed perspective.

[Cedrick]

Yes my frustration isn’t AI.

I think I want to add gamma to my lynch list

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes my frustration isn’t AI.

I think I want to add gamma to my lynch list

For making a theory? And I didn't know that you got warned for

that

, and honestly that's the mod having a thin skin. Now that I know that I'm not really thinking that is the case anymore, but sure, scumread me before I actually respond to your correction.

[Cedrick]

No. I felt like you were buddying me earlier and some of your posts were weird. Like missing tchill’s obviously sarcastic post.

It’s a gut thing really.

[Gamma Emerald]

No. I felt like you were buddying me earlier and some of your posts were weird. Like missing tchill’s obviously sarcastic post.

It’s a gut thing really.

I don't think I missed a TChill post?

[Cedrick]

No he made a sarcastic post and your response was off

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: creature

WHAT?

Good call on not lynching mumble guys.

Katherine and mumble have provided great catch up's.

WHAT?!??

Have you gone senile

Oh this one
Well given that he was voting Creature I took him very seriously. Voting Creature is pretty bad.

[Tchill13]

I'm not sure how creature is lock town but noted.

[Cedrick]

I'm not sure how creature is lock town but noted.

[Gamma Emerald]

Activity. He's the

only

player you can pretty much always activity read. He lurks as scum, 100% of the time. Only time he broke meta as scum he got lynched anyway due to the game being a lovers game. You need to be careful using it initially because he can easily get bored as town as well, but after you get to know him it should be second nature.

[Tchill13]

Activity. He's the

only

player you can pretty much always activity read. He lurks as scum, 100% of the time. Only time he broke meta as scum he got lynched anyway due to the game being a lovers game. You need to be careful using it initially because he can easily get bored as town as well, but after you get to know him it should be second nature.

Activity... ACTIVITY!!! I'm dead lol. Good joke. This guy isn't lock town. He's activity read just like mumble and Katherine.

Every time I've seen mumble play scum he's lurked. So guess what I think? Mumble is lock scum. He's one of the few players you can pretty much always activity read.

[Gamma Emerald]

Activity. He's the

only

player you can pretty much always activity read. He lurks as scum, 100% of the time. Only time he broke meta as scum he got lynched anyway due to the game being a lovers game. You need to be careful using it initially because he can easily get bored as town as well, but after you get to know him it should be second nature.

Activity... ACTIVITY!!! I'm dead lol. Good joke. This guy isn't lock town. He's activity read just like mumble and Katherine.

Every time I've seen mumble play scum he's lurked. So guess what I think? Mumble is lock scum. He's one of the few players you can pretty much always activity read.

If this is true then I'll happily sheep you. I'm willing to put my money where my reads are.

[katherine]

creature (I am familiar with creature)

Have we played together?

We have

(gotta now find out if Katherine is an alt)

I am

[Tchill13]

@creature you need to change up your scum game apparently lol.