Team Mafia 2018: White Flag — Day Six

[Dunnstral]

no?

no what?

[Ranmaru]

What I want people to remember is: Davsto tunnels me, but never gives a full reads list. Think about if this is natural for Davsto. Meta him even.

[Ranmaru]

Once you guys see my Town flip, it'll most likely shed the light on Shea. Do note that he never responded to me trying to talk to him and have him try to see things from my perspective.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ran can you be amenable to a Dunnstral vote?

[Ranmaru]

No.

[Ranmaru]

Just vote me Gamma.

[Ranmaru]

Yes, yes it is.

If Dunn/Ran had instead voted Shadoweh disaster may have had a chance to be averted. But this is practically about to force me to vote Ran.

Your problem is that you are town reading scum. Hopefully when you see my flip, it might make you reconsider.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why not? He was the other wagon besides CES to be secondary to Marquis, and was on Marquis when the game stalled (which means Marquis is likely town because scum were not in the mood to change the situation due to risk of shifting the wagon to them).

[Ranmaru]

I don't think Quick's push on him is genuine, after his vote on Dan. I am not confident in Dunn being scum, so I'd rather die today so people can vote Shea tomorrow (with my lylo stack vote).

[Gamma Emerald]

Ranmaru why haven't you considered any options other than Quick and Shea?

[ActionDan]

What is your read on Ranmaru, Dan? CBA to look it up atm.

It was 4sure scum, but that read dwindled a bit today and looking at the posting within the last page it's lessening asymptotically because those recent posts sure do look town. Like shit.

[Gamma Emerald]

AD would you vote Dunn?

[Ranmaru]

I think Quick and Shea may be a team. Davsto is a hard one because he hasn't really done much besides have his focus entirely on me as well. I think scum is within there. Quick is just the one with more support, yet if we can't get him today, then we may be out of luck tomorrow.

[Ranmaru]

Dunn isn't as informative as I am. I'm not voting Shadoweh.

[Ranmaru]

Gamma, you trying to see support for Dunn instead of me is very town. You are obvious town and all Shea has you as is his weakest town read. You'll notice too late that he is scum.

[ActionDan]

Yes, yes it is.

If Dunn/Ran had instead voted Shadoweh disaster may have had a chance to be averted. But this is practically about to force me to vote Ran.

Your problem is that you are town reading scum. Hopefully when you see my flip, it might make you reconsider.

Two things would make me do this. 1) you flipping town, not because of your arguments which I just can't force myself to synthesize, but because at that point I am wrong somewhere, and well, there's a possibility it's on TSQ. 2) TSQ surviving if there's 5 players left. I guess that goes without saying but I expect him to die even if you get lynched and flip town.

Pre-edit. I think Quick is about the same as NSG levels of town. completely different reasons, but my strength of read is practically the same there.

As for voting Dunn. No, I swear CES's play makes like 0% sense with Dunn scum, I've come from it from 1 billion angles now, and it really doesn't work.

[Ranmaru]

Then vote me Dan. Time is short. My vote will be on Shea for Lylo.

[Ranmaru]

In some order, we are lynching Tchill, the entire Gamma wagon (CES AD LQ) and Eddie.
Scum are going to NK TSQ, Me and / or Postie, NSG / Ran
That's 5 lynches; we get 6. If we haven't won the game with those 5, the people still alive at that point can reevaluate.
If somehow those 5 players are all town, then well played scum. Team would have to be like Marquis Postie NSG or something.
In fairness, NSG scum is more plausible than I was thinking; her ISO is essentially just some reads and reasons.
NSG mostly works on Eddie and CES teams and such though.

The lylo that would leave is:
Marquis
Dunnstral
Lycan
Davsto
Gamma

Give whoever you lynch the day before lylo (CES if he makes it that far) the right to pick the lylo lynch if they flip town. Otherwise elect somebody to control all the lylo votes.
Town MUST all 3 get it right, if game goes to lylo, so they need some preexisting mechanism to agree and stack their votes or else scum have a 90% chance of winning in 2/3 lylo.
And once again, do not assume someone who lacks a good possible buddy must be town. I was universally scumread in Whiteflag 1 and won as scum because Mith distanced from me successfully and it looked like nobody could be my partner.

I can see LQ flipping town. I can see AD flipping town, maybe. I can see Tchill flipping town if all the scum are on the gamma wagon.
CES I can't really see flipping town here, but I'm also too lazy and not reliable enough at reading him to try to lynch him D1. If alive in lylo, all votes go on him please.
Eddie is probably where my next big timechunk of reading should go.

Put simply I want to set things up D1 to ensure a town win, so I am thinking a few moves ahead. I don't have a very long shelf life as town.
Your post essentially says "I find it annoying that you're thinking far ahead." Which offers even less value than my post
Lynch math - 15 -> 13 -> 11 -> 9 -> 7 -> 5 = 5 lynches; if we've hit scum with those 5 we get an additional lynch.

[Ranmaru]

I would elect Gamma, but he may die in the night.

[Shadoweh]

It's ok it's not as hard as a flip flop from Sleepy Krew, from LQ is wacka alpaca town ---> ??? bad interactions from post 23## ---> hates LQ.

Fuck off Dan I already said that was me mixing it up

I can't tell where the votes are right now but I'm pretty sure LQ still has the most lynch support. I would really prefer not to lynch Ranmaru.

[ActionDan]

We could also no lynch here. just saying

[Ranmaru]

No, we're not doing that.

[Ranmaru]

Also, forget what I said about Davsto's read list thing, I missed his post giving one.

[Lycanfire]

you have to elect more than more person for lylo controller dummy

[Ranmaru]

Alright, besides Gamma, who should I elect Lycanfire. I want you involved in this process as I'm not solid on the rest of my town reads.