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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:12 pm

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What the hell can we not treat this as a dick measuring contest
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:13 pm

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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:13 pm

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i mean i'm already trying to break his new newbie setup so if he's town i can understand the undue bias against me
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:14 pm

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In post 174, Mathdino wrote:gut + PoE

have pushed a lot of strategies in open games and your reaction is most similar to scum reactions in my experience

Edit: yeah if you take that statement completely out of context and ignore all the posts before and after it detailing my strategy for this unique setup, sure
In post 26, Mathdino wrote:hahahaha
i am completely unsurprised at the newbie listmod's disapproval of this strategy
Really?
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:14 pm

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In post 174, Mathdino wrote:have pushed a lot of strategies in open games and your reaction is most similar to scum reactions in my experience
elaborate pls
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:15 pm

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In post 174, Mathdino wrote:PoE
This would also be nice to explain given your last "read list" was all scum reads.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:16 pm

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In post 27, PenguinPower wrote:Not participating.
When I made I figured that was a hipfire reaction, and I would, at some point, get a more detailed explanation on why my strategy was bad.

When it turned into a game of "discredit Mathdino and this strategy is garbage", that's what I mean by scum reactions. Scum is forced to either make shit up to rip into the strategy (which I'm on record outside of this game for approving of), or discredit me and my ability to optimise.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:17 pm

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Holy shit that one count tho.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:17 pm

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holy fucking shit i'm sheeping EP for the rest of my life
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:18 pm

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In post 176, Errantparabola wrote:Disclaimer: I know very little about philosophy and have seen only a select few of these webcomics.
You should read them; based on that awesome image you'd probably enjoy them a lot :lol:
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:18 pm

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Ep, teach me how to make memes. Dino will follow me to the ends of the Earth if I make them well enough.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:20 pm

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In post 185, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:Ep, teach me how to make memes. Dino will follow me to the ends of the Earth if I make them well enough.
do you scumread me?
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:23 pm

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I have no reason NOT to scumread you, so if ya want one of the votes off you, you gotta ask Cheeky or mister Penguin.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:25 pm

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In post 181, Mathdino wrote:
In post 27, PenguinPower wrote:Not participating.
When I made I figured that was a hipfire reaction, and I would, at some point, get a more detailed explanation on why my strategy was bad.

When it turned into a game of "discredit Mathdino and this strategy is garbage", that's what I mean by scum reactions. Scum is forced to either make shit up to rip into the strategy (which I'm on record outside of this game for approving of), or discredit me and my ability to optimise.
I'm not trying to discredit you, but I'm also not having this discussion in this game. Happy to participate in that discussion later on, but your claims that you have found an "optimal play" and have "broken the setup" are egotistical and unproven via stats. Once you can back up your arrogance, I'll follow along.

That's the last thing I'm going to say about your strategy for the duration of this game.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:27 pm

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In post 180, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 174, Mathdino wrote:PoE
This would also be nice to explain given your last "read list" was all scum reads.
Would still like your answer to this.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:28 pm

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In post 187, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:I have no reason NOT to scumread you, so if ya want one of the votes off you, you gotta ask Cheeky or mister Penguin.
Okay Math I'm gaining interest in your PL.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:29 pm

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In post 104, Something_Smart wrote:But... there are more town than scum... so a random person with no information is more likely to be town.
Is this a reason not to scumread me?
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:32 pm

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Because there is no need to move my vote, your suddenly behind Dino?

Your values are to be remembered in the far reaches of the Galaxy, far after Earth in but fodder for the expanding red sun.

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That's NAI, or if you want to be specific, not something I care about.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:33 pm

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In post 189, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 180, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 174, Mathdino wrote:PoE
This would also be nice to explain given your last "read list" was all scum reads.
Would still like your answer to this.
That was a meme reads list specifically to not give Bambi something to sheep. I was half making fun of what other people get scumread for (Gamma, Smart, NSG) and half making fun of my own gut reactions to people's posts (CT, you).

Bambi and N_M are presently unreadable and are already fully in my lynchpool. If I'm to actually push people for reasons:

NSG is town.
CT reads very light town.
Gamma can nulltown.
Smart is null.
You I lightly scumread.

So if I'm supposed to actually play the game as opposed to policysmiting people I don't wanna play with, my vote's on you.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:34 pm

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In post 192, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:Because there is no need to move my vote, your suddenly behind Dino?

Your values are to be remembered in the far reaches of the Galaxy, far after Earth in but fodder for the expanding red sun.

--- P Edit ---

That's NAI, or if you want to be specific, not something I care about.
I'm not talking at all about your vote right now. I'm talking about your read on me.

In the absence of anything to change it, it should start out as null. Why is it at scum?
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:35 pm

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Holy hell that is one amazing creation EP
What's funny is I can't tear myself away from this game
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:35 pm

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Also Math I hope you see my scumgame someday, because then I guarantee you'll stop putting me at null.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:36 pm

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Guilty until Proven Innocent. Except me. I'm always innocent.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:36 pm

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In post 179, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 174, Mathdino wrote:have pushed a lot of strategies in open games and your reaction is most similar to scum reactions in my experience
elaborate pls
Check the game linked in Math's sig (the thing about economics wonderland) and check what cy flipped
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:36 pm

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In post 188, PenguinPower wrote:I'm not trying to discredit you, but I'm also not having this discussion in this game. Happy to participate in that discussion later on, but your claims that you have found an "optimal play" and have "broken the setup" are egotistical and unproven via stats. Once you can back up your arrogance, I'll follow along.

That's the last thing I'm going to say about your strategy for the duration of this game.
It's not a hardbreak, it's just an optimisation like the BP claim.

If I can prove it mathematically/computationally assuming random night actions, would that be better?

I can show all my assumptions on scum strategy and run the stats on each of Tracker/Doc, Tracker/JK, and Tracker/Cop.

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