Mini Normal 1996: Floral Mafia [Endgame!]

[Tchill13]

Tchill is on my list also. I just feel asuka is scummier and looking at how they mentioned each other especially asuka caking mumble stupid or whatever for voting implosion, I like asuka for scum better.

After looking at your vca I believe your ausuka tchill scum reads are associations are they not?

Implosion and ausuka are the only wagons I weren't on. So let's say I or ausuka flip town. Does that automatically clear the other in your opinion?

I can’t really answer that. I need an actual flip. I’ll need to see who was on and off the wagon, I’ll need to see who dies. Lots of things factor in to me reevaluating

I'm assuming I'll flip town at some point seeing as I'm scummy af rn and I have a hard time believing people being able to reevaluate that read.

That DOES NOT clear ausuka.

[Hopkirk]

What part of asking a quick question means I'm focused on you/Luca?

Asking us to explain how we’re town implies scum reads and you want us to defend ourselves. Regardless of your alignment you should never ask stupid questions like that.

It doesn't imply scumreads. It implies not townreads.
Though I townread Luca now, but not you.

[Cedrick]

Need an answer eventually.

You can chill the fuck out and let me get around to it.

[Hopkirk]

What part of asking a quick question means I'm focused on you/Luca?

Asking us to explain how we’re town implies scum reads and you want us to defend ourselves. Regardless of your alignment you should never ask stupid questions like that.

It doesn't imply scumreads. It implies not townreads.
Though I townread Luca now, but not you.

And the question didn't need you to even explain why you were town (although you'd already said you had stuff you could use there, so it's odd to attack me on those grounds). Just needed you to give me reasons to think the other was town, or other people were scum.

[Tchill13]

Need an answer eventually.

You can chill the fuck out and let me get around to it.

Tsk Tsk. You already answered and you know that. Going out of your way to slander someone in an already handled situation isn't quite the "grown up" thing to do. If you want to use grown up words why not try grown up attitudes with them?

[Ausuka]

Not sure how useful VCA is right now. The implo wagon was really quick and the lack of resistance to it leads me to believe that scum were probably bussing implo. I don't see how my d1 voting makes me scum here.
That said my d1 reads were probably still disastarous and I'm just going to refresh them at this point.

VCA is literally the most useful tool we have right now; it's what most of the information we have is based on.

Then the information we have is probably subpar, and we need to get better information.
Objectively, could scum have bussed Implo? Absolutely. Could scum have avoided his wagon? Absolutely.
Could both mumble wagons have been fuelled by town fustration and were town-based? Aboslutely. Could they have been fuelled by scum oppurtunism? Absolutely. This goes for pretty much every wagon. You're not going to get anywhere by putting colours on a few VCs, at least not on day 2. Individual votes on those wagons are worth analysis but, like, there's not really any point in saying X scum are in Y wagon IMO.

And I feel there

was

resistance to the Implo wagon - in the form of

my

wagon.

Nah, your wagon wasn't resistance to Implo. It was there before Implo wagon was a thing. Maria and I were definitely in there before anything happened, and Mumble vs Luca was still the main event when Katherine voted. And Tchill far from opposed Implo's lynch; he was voting Implo before he switched to you and he never tried to derail Implo.

[Tchill13]

Hopkirk did your question to ausuka come with cedricks VCA in mind?

[Hopkirk]

How haven't you mentioned, quoted, or quoted a mention of Asuka until today Cedrick?

[Cedrick]

Can either of you give me any good reasons why you aren't the rest of the scumteam?

This was your question actually. This basically is you wanting to show why we aren’t scum which implies you think we both are. Gtfoh trying to imply it means anything else. I don’t care who you tr or don’t tr but don’t try and backpedal now.

You thought we were both scum.

[Ausuka]

Ausuka
brassherald
Mumble
katherine
Luca Blight
implosion
tring the people not in this list

I feel like if Maria is scum this means her partner isn't katherine. It's still possible MariaR and Tchill could be scum together but tbh if Tchill is scum he's just completely duped me. His tone feels really genuine this game.

If you're not buddying and you're actually town then I'd like to have a chat with you on how to read tone post game.

I'm not sure what this means.

[Luca Blight]

I think it's odd you were reluctant to mention Katherine.

Odd in an AI way?

Is it odd that the lowest poster in this game wasn't the one who jumped to the forefront of my mind when making that comment?

If you consider you were Comparing a player to the 2nd lowest poster in the game and it wasn't Katherine. Yes it is odd.

I wasn't comparing activity, I was comparing their relative lack of thought to the game.

You're still unclear about whether you mean this is an AI sort of

'odd

' or just a random thing you wanted to bring up.

[Cedrick]

Need an answer eventually.

You can chill the fuck out and let me get around to it.

Tsk Tsk. You already answered and you know that. Going out of your way to slander someone in an already handled situation isn't quite the "grown up" thing to do. If you want to use grown up words why not try grown up attitudes with them?

You asked me 2 more times before I could answer. Your question wasn’t that important it needed to be asked a 2nd let alone a 3rd so my response to you was completely justified.

[Hopkirk]

Hopkirk did your question to ausuka come with cedricks VCA in mind?

No. Isoing interactions between possible scum (each other and implosion)

[Cedrick]

How haven't you mentioned, quoted, or quoted a mention of Asuka until today Cedrick?

Cause I was scum reading other people. Why do you keep asking useless questions?

[Ausuka]

Ausuka
brassherald
Mumble
katherine
Luca Blight
implosion
tring the people not in this list

I feel like if Maria is scum this means her partner isn't katherine.

It's still possible MariaR and Tchill could be scum together but tbh if Tchill is scum he's just completely duped me. His tone feels really genuine this game.

You're basing that purely on that list?

Well I mean yeah. If Maria is scum she likely drafted this list based on narrowing down push options. Implo's in there. Would she put her other partner in too? Because I feel like if you're going to put both of your partners on a list like that you just never make the post.

[Hopkirk]

Can either of you give me any good reasons why you aren't the rest of the scumteam?

This was your question actually. This basically is you wanting to show why we aren’t scum which implies you think we both are. Gtfoh trying to imply it means anything else. I don’t care who you tr or don’t tr but don’t try and backpedal now.

You thought we were both scum.

You infered that. There's a difference.
The main one being how much weight you assumed the line carried.

[Ausuka]

@Asuka: I can't see anything in your iso that makes you seem like an unlikely partner to both Tchill and Implosion. Thoughts?

Well yeah, I don't think I've done anything that would make that an unlikely pair.

[Hopkirk]

How haven't you mentioned, quoted, or quoted a mention of Asuka until today Cedrick?

Cause I was scum reading other people. Why do you keep asking useless questions?

Why do you think?

[Cedrick]

Can either of you give me any good reasons why you aren't the rest of the scumteam?

This was your question actually. This basically is you wanting to show why we aren’t scum which implies you think we both are. Gtfoh trying to imply it means anything else. I don’t care who you tr or don’t tr but don’t try and backpedal now.

You thought we were both scum.

You infered that. There's a difference.
The main one being how much weight you assumed the line carried.

I inferred that because most people wouldn’t ask that question to people you aren’t scum reading. If you weren’t scum reading us there was no point to ask it.

[Cedrick]

How haven't you mentioned, quoted, or quoted a mention of Asuka until today Cedrick?

Cause I was scum reading other people. Why do you keep asking useless questions?

Why do you think?

Scum fake scum hunting most likely

[Hopkirk]

This is why I was concerned about Luca/Cedrick. Probably wouldn't go for it today though.

implosion (5): Hopkirk, Creature, Gamma Emerald, Havo, Tchill13
Mumble (3): implosion, Cedrick, Luca Blight
Luca Blight (5): Ausuka, MariaR, Killthestory, katherine, Mumble

[Hopkirk]

Can either of you give me any good reasons why you aren't the rest of the scumteam?

This was your question actually. This basically is you wanting to show why we aren’t scum which implies you think we both are. Gtfoh trying to imply it means anything else. I don’t care who you tr or don’t tr but don’t try and backpedal now.

You thought we were both scum.

You infered that. There's a difference.
The main one being how much weight you assumed the line carried.

I inferred that because most people wouldn’t ask that question to people you aren’t scum reading. If you weren’t scum reading us there was no point to ask it.

You aren't very good at understanding nuance.
Or thinking about people playing or thinking differently to yourself.

[Tchill13]

Nobody else thinks anything of Luca not mentioningKatherine?

[Ausuka]

I feel like Luca is pretty transparently town at this point.

[Hopkirk]

How haven't you mentioned, quoted, or quoted a mention of Asuka until today Cedrick?

Cause I was scum reading other people. Why do you keep asking useless questions?

Why do you think?

Scum fake scum hunting most likely

Not mentioning someone whatsoever in 40 pages suggests you aren't interested in interacting with everyone in the game.
Do you usually not interact with neutral or town reads? Or even express those reads? I see other stated reads that aren't scumreads.