Mini Normal 1996: Floral Mafia [Endgame!]

[Cedrick]

you talk to hopkirk like he is town. why?

[Tchill13]

I'm not sure if he's town or not. That's the point.

So you think implosion/Luca were a team? That’s literally the only way you can be suspicious of Luca.

The urge to be sarcastic here is very high. Yes they're obviously a team if Luca is scum.

see most people would come in and think luca is town, but you don't. You are also on the short list of possible scum so it would make sense for you as scum to push that agenda, it doesn't make sense for you as town to do that though.

Any read that starts with "most people, town would never, scum always..." Isn't a good basis.

Let's say I'm scum. I lynch Luca. He flips town so I'm gonna push Katherine. Katherine flips town. Guess who's lynched next? Me. It's a stupid road to go down if I'm scum. One with limited possibilities. If you're scum you want as many possibilities as possible at all times.

[Cedrick]

Either Luca is town or he isn't.

and we won't know that anytime soon, and we aren't lynching him day 2 as he was the counter the a POWERFUL mafia role. move on

[Tchill13]

I feel very confident in my hopkirk TR. He sorted a ton day 1. He's asking people the motivations behind their reads. His progressions make sense. Great example of being able to show themselves as town through effort.

[Cedrick]

Let's say I'm scum. I lynch Luca. He flips town so I'm gonna push Katherine. Katherine flips town. Guess who's lynched next? Me. It's a stupid road to go down if I'm scum. One with limited possibilities. If you're scum you want as many possibilities as possible at all times.

you know luca isn't going to really get lynched today though. So you as scum could push luca and be written off as a dumb townie.

[Tchill13]

Either Luca is town or he isn't.

and we won't know that anytime soon, and we aren't lynching him day 2 as he was the counter the a POWERFUL mafia role. move on

Either

Luca scum bussed the PR for town cred or

Scum tried to lynch Luca because he was the counter wagon to their strongest PR.

The game is pretty simple after that.

[Cedrick]

I feel very confident in my hopkirk TR. He sorted a ton day 1. He's asking people the motivations behind their reads. His progressions make sense. Great example of being able to show themselves as town through effort.

he had 30 posts day 1 and I don't see much sorting. He didn't even really try to sort implosion. He vote parked on implosion and did nothing to make a lynch happen. If there is scum on the wagon, he could be it. he isn't really trying to sort anyone today either, he's asking me questions that don't help sort me, they are questions that just look like he's trying to appear busy.

[Cedrick]

yeah, sorry I don't really see that as being likely and since I already sr you day 1, you just keep doing things that look like scum.

i'm good with you or a hop wagon today

[Tchill13]

Let's say I'm scum. I lynch Luca. He flips town so I'm gonna push Katherine. Katherine flips town. Guess who's lynched next? Me. It's a stupid road to go down if I'm scum. One with limited possibilities. If you're scum you want as many possibilities as possible at all times.

you know luca isn't going to really get lynched today though. So you as scum could push luca and be written off as a dumb townie.

Or from an analytical standpoint it's the most efficient way to go about things. Keep in mind I'm operating from the view that if Luca is town iplosion s wagon is confirmed town. If you disagree with that point then fine. I don't think I'm wrong though about scum not bussing their strongest PR when they don't have to.

[Tchill13]

yeah, sorry I don't really see that as being likely and since I already sr you day 1, you just keep doing things that look like scum.

i'm good with you or a hop wagon today

Dang. Man cedrick I was playing for your affirmation and yours alone. I'm sorry I've failed you.

[Tchill13]

I feel very confident in my hopkirk TR. He sorted a ton day 1. He's asking people the motivations behind their reads. His progressions make sense. Great example of being able to show themselves as town through effort.

he had 30 posts day 1 and I don't see much sorting. He didn't even really try to sort implosion. He vote parked on implosion and did nothing to make a lynch happen. If there is scum on the wagon, he could be it. he isn't really trying to sort anyone today either, he's asking me questions that don't help sort me, they are questions that just look like he's trying to appear busy.

If anyone asked you questions about your alignment you'd say their not sorting you because you're already confirmed town in your opinion.

[Cedrick]

I don't think I'm wrong though about scum not bussing their strongest PR when they don't have to.

yet you are pushing luca as scum which contradicts this statement.

[Cedrick]

If anyone asked you questions about your alignment you'd say their not sorting you because you're already confirmed town in your opinion.

well nobody should ask me questions about my alignment. As town my job isn't to prove I am town, it's to find scum.

[Hopkirk]

you talk to hopkirk like he is town. why?

You should engage people as if they're town.

I feel very confident in my hopkirk TR. He sorted a ton day 1. He's asking people the motivations behind their reads. His progressions make sense. Great example of being able to show themselves as town through effort.

he had 30 posts day 1 and I don't see much sorting. He didn't even really try to sort implosion. He vote parked on implosion and did nothing to make a lynch happen. If there is scum on the wagon, he could be it. he isn't really trying to sort anyone today either, he's asking me questions that don't help sort me, they are questions that just look like he's trying to appear busy.

You know I subbed in a couple of days before deadline and have a job, right?
I found scum d1 and helped restart a dead wagon. I didn't need to make a case since people swung back around. That doesn't mean I had 0 reasoning.

[Tchill13]

I've seen scum do a lot to avoid interactions with each other. That's all I'm getting at with the Katherine thing. Very, very odd you chose to leave him out of that comparison.

Fucking hell, are you ignoring the part where I voted Katherine, and she later voted me and left it there for the rest of the day? And the part where I called out her bullshit scumread of me?

You only see what you want to see.

Do yall really not see where I'm getting my confirm 6 townies thing?

OK OK I may have tunneled scum Luca idea too hard. I agree.

If I'm operating under the idea that Luca is town and therefore the other 6 are already confirmed in my mind.

Then Maria and ausuka is the scum team in my eyes.

Yeah I was pushing scum Luca. II'm leaning town Luca now.

I understand we can't lynch him even though from my pov his alignment is the most important to know.

VOTE: maria

[Cedrick]

You should engage people as if they're town.

Not if you scum read them.

[Tchill13]

Honestly I'm enjoying hopkirks addition (I gave reason to TR though) to the game and I'm hoping ausuka is town. Two enjoyable players imo.

Cedric assuming I'm town and Luca is also wouldn't a Maria/ausuka scum team make sense?

[Cedrick]

I found scum d1

Yes. You found scum yet never gave a single reason why he was scum. You also made a couple of posts that imply you weren’t even that sure. You called him scum and voted gamma. You were voting him but said you would vote me.

Sorry. You did nothing to find implosion. You did nothing to help a wagon happen, you didn’t even seem committed to it.

You get no town credit from me since you did nothing but vote Park which could easily be scum who didn’t realize a wagon was going to actually happen.

[Cedrick]

Hopkirk. Quote the reasons you gave for implosion being scum. If you want to take credit for it which you’ve now done twice, surely you helped it happen

[Havo]

I found scum d1

Yes. You found scum yet never gave a single reason why he was scum. You also made a couple of posts that imply you weren’t even that sure. You called him scum and voted gamma. You were voting him but said you would vote me.

Sorry. You did nothing to find implosion. You did nothing to help a wagon happen, you didn’t even seem committed to it.
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You get no town credit from me since you did nothing but vote Park which could easily be scum who didn’t realize a wagon was going to actually happen.

Hopkirk. Quote the reasons you gave for implosion being scum. If you want to take credit for it which you’ve now done twice, surely you helped it happen

Can we not excuse d1 quickhammers

I won’t be. Disclaimer or not I’ll be pushing a lynch on anyone who quick hammers without a claim. Unless it’s a scum flip,

I’ll reward bad play if it benefits town.

[Havo]

Not much rewarding going on there.

[Havo]

Hop is practically lock town.

[Hopkirk]

You should engage people as if they're town.

Not if you scum read them.

You still should.

I found scum d1

Yes. You found scum yet never gave a single reason why he was scum. You also made a couple of posts that imply you weren’t even that sure. You called him scum and voted gamma. You were voting him but said you would vote me.

Sorry. You did nothing to find implosion. You did nothing to help a wagon happen, you didn’t even seem committed to it.

You get no town credit from me since you did nothing but vote Park which could easily be scum who didn’t realize a wagon was going to actually happen.

I voted Gamma then unvoted him on a reread- unpormpted.
I didn't need to give reasons for it since it started up again without needing to.
I didn't leave/stop supporting it as it built up.
I did stuff to find Implosion. Not posting it in the thread while time limited doesn't diminish my effort.

I'm going to take a break and come back in a better headspace/not needing to interact with Cedrick.

[Cedrick]

Hop is practically lock town.

Why?

[Cedrick]

You still should.

Why?