Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Titus]

Gamma is still probably scum.

A50 worth a lynch and his vote scares me on Ran. :/

[pidgey]

Yeah agree a bit.

A50, why did you went through all this trouble to make this gigantic puzzle for your claim, only to come out right at the beginning of day 2? I don0t particularly think the night choice of targetting brass is bad or good, but the way you came out was weird.

[pidgey]

Thats a pretty dumb reason to lynch your hard tr buddy

Agree with this btw not titus itself. Though the vote does raise an eyebrow

[Almost50]

@Joey: I honestly don't care much about the "details" you've been about in your recent posts (or rather don't care about discussing/inspecting them). All I'm going to say is

WELCOME TO MY TOWN BLOCK

. That helped a LOT, so THANK YOU for obv!Towning.

P-edit:
@Titus/@pidgey:
3 options here: 1- Suck it, 2- Shove it, 3-Bite me

Each of you can pick one and leave the 3rd option to the next person who goes down that route.

@Joey: No, It definitely is NOT dumb. ranmaru has the capacity to go "I think Chara is Red Scum, and Titus + Nero are Orange", "No wait! Chara is Orange with Joey. Red is Almost50", "Actually, it Gamma/Koki for the Orange team and the red is in Joda/Kiana".. all in less than 10 minutes (he can confirm if he likes).

[Gamma Emerald]

at least 1 implies more than one is possible.

btw you can have role madness with VT, I was in that situation in a past game and got pseudo-cleared for most of the game via that

[Kokichi Oma]

Can we vote Titus.

[BuJaber]

at least 1 implies more than one is possible.

btw you can have role madness with VT, I was in that situation in a past game and got pseudo-cleared for most of the game via that

I believe the assumption here is that role madness games that include a VT only include 1 VT.

Joey seems to think that is the case unless I'm misunderstanding him.

And if I've read the intention correctly chara is saying that since from the op all we know is that we have 1 VT but we could have more there's no reason for joey to assume role madness.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well normally UPicks are role madness so Joey is justified in a sense

[Joey_]

4 flavorish roles like relgion spreader who does "nothing" is a big tell for a role madness

[BuJaber]

Fine then I'm VT

VOTE: Kiana

[Kokichi Oma]

WHY ARE WE CLAIMING.

[Kokichi Oma]

There is going to be more than one VT. This isn't a role madness.

[Joey_]

It feels like one tho

[Joey_]

And buja dont be a twat, kiana could be vt as well

[Almost50]

OK, maybe we do need a massclaim sooner tha later. Scum already know where to hit anyway.

I mean, assuming all 3 religion spreaders are Town + 2 VTs + an IC + 2 JOATS (more or less) + at least 3 more scums, 2 of then are paired in a team...

Do we seriously think scum don't have a good chance to hit the PRs anyway?

@brass: Your call. I'm still sheeping you until I figure out something better.

[Ranmaru]

I'm not claiming. A50, before you voted me, being your top town read, why haven't you defended me or mentioned me while others were talking about my slot? (Just as you have defended others like Dunk and Gamma)

[Ranmaru]

@Joey: No, It definitely is NOT dumb. ranmaru has the capacity to go "I think Chara is Red Scum, and Titus + Nero are Orange", "No wait! Chara is Orange with Joey. Red is Almost50", "Actually, it Gamma/Koki for the Orange team and the red is in Joda/Kiana".. all in less than 10 minutes (he can confirm if he likes).

I certainly do, but not as much as you think. Yet this game has already had plenty of scum flips, so I would be less likely to flip around as much, since things would be more clear then without much scum flips.

[Joey_]

OK, maybe we do need a massclaim sooner tha later. Scum already know where to hit anyway.

I mean, assuming all 3 religion spreaders are Town + 2 VTs + an IC + 2 JOATS (more or less) + at least 3 more scums, 2 of then are paired in a team...

Do we seriously think scum don't have a good chance to hit the PRs anyway?

@brass: Your call. I'm still sheeping you until I figure out something better.

Thx, my point

[Ranmaru]

I think someone should make a chart of everyone's claims so far and go by that. Then compare it to both scum teams that have already flipped. Since it seems people already claimed, are we mass claiming or are we not? If people are saying 'why are we mass claiming', then think as to why people claimed without reason as well.

[Joey_]

I think someone should make a chart of everyone's claims so far and go by that. Then compare it to both scum teams that have already flipped. Since it seems people already claimed, are we mass claiming or are we not? If people are saying 'why are we mass claiming', then think as to why people claimed without reason as well.

Do you even read the thread?

[Ranmaru]

I haven't read it lately. I'm actually going back to see about the Creature wagon to see who is scum with him. I will note this: Kiana seems interesting, as she only came back just as Creature was hammered. Plus she town read Dunk. So in a way, her V/LA helped her avoid any interaction with the Creature wagon. I liked her observation of Gamma, but I could see that coming from Red scum, since I believe Gamma is Orange scum. I may be wrong on Titus.

[Joey_]

You realize that i have been making a chart like you described since very early on d2 and been updating it since then ? How is it possible you never saw it

[Ranmaru]

You are right. For some reason I didn't think of your reads list, but I have seen it before. I was just thinking of a chart with the updated roles now. (Seeing as one person has claimed on this page) Put simply, I don't care enough to make a claim chart myself. That's why I mentioned that.

[Joey_]

Resolutions

DAY 1

[

Ban Luxury

~ Silk]

PASSES

The World Congress will monitor its effects going forward, but angry letters from textile manufacturers and sex workers alike have already started pouring in.

Effect(s) Unknown.

[

Congressional Peace-keeping

~ brassherald]

PASSES

The World Congress sends its peace-keeping forces to

brassherald

's Civilization, a move that is sure to curtail aggression in the region.

brassherald receives Protection Night 1.

DAY 2

Temporary Ban Gold

[/i]

Protection of Natural Wonders

 

Spoiler: Day 2 Options

DAY 2

1.

[Temporary Ban Gold]

[/i] (non-consec)

IMO hinting at kills in some ways, apparently you might get gold for blood. Also hinting that gold is linked to Religion and that Religious Gold is especially bad.

2.

[Temporary Ban Ivory]

(non-consec)

Saying that it lasted too long and that it's one of the worst thing humanity is doing to the nature. Elephant and rhinos are endangered (Africa?)

3.

[Temporary Ban Furs]

(non-consec)

2 Italian and 1 American clothing brands listed implying they are the leaders in the fur trade. Banning Furs can help protect those animals that are close to extinction, none animal are hinted.

4.

[Embargo Nation]

(non-consec, cannot self assign delegates)

Implies that the World Congress is going to act on said Nation and that is more than just denunciation.

5.

[Embargo City States]

(permanent, can be repealed)

This one is actually interesting. it says that the City States are really small and that they makes the global politics more complex and that it can interfere with the politic of the others bigger and powerful civilisation. IMO this could mean that there is 3p players with 3P win-con and Town win con. This one could shut-down their 3p win-con, in that way it would make the Global Politics simpler between the bigger and more powerful civilisations (Mafia and Town ?)

6.

Protection of Natural Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

 
Hinted to be linked to Culture (?). It says that we should protect the Cultural Natural Wonders around the world. Maybe it will affect everyone ?

7.

Recognition of World Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

In the same ways, it says that there is a Word Wonder in each and every Civ, might affect everyone ?

8.

Funding Arts

(non-consec)

It says that Art in general and around the world will get a boost and will flourish. The Resolution is to make or oppose the making of a program about art in every Civ.

9.

Funding Science

(non-consec, can self assign delegates)

This one is interesting too because it's not what i thought it was before reading the description myself.
Basically it says the the Science in general, around the world, will get a boost and will flourish. But, the resolution is about supporting or opposiong 1 Civ to talk about making a program about science in their own Civ. So this might actually boost Science scum even if we target the IC.

Gamestate 2.1

Alive

17/21

Spoiler:

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Kokichi Oma	Chara	Nero Cain
?	?	?	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Action Dan	Pidgey	Jodaxq
?	?	Catholic Spreader ?	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader ?	?	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

Dead

4/21

Spoiler:

Elbirn
Weak Permanent BG
▓▓▓▓
Varsoon
Role Cop
▓▓▓▓
Creature	Dunkerdoodles
Role Blocker	Pagan Spreader
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓

Spoiler: My reads

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Kokichi Oma	Nero Cain	Chara
?	?	?	?
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Action Dan	Pidgey	Jodaxq
?	?	Catholic Spreader	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader	?	?
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Changes : added baju's claim

[Joey_]

Gamestate ALIVE is literraly what is confirmed by the game and or mechanics and or claims