Mini 1997: The Clownspiracy (Game Over!)

Cedrick · Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:19 am

In post 1148, Wh4t wrote:So you're letting him pocket you by scumreading obv town with you?

What happened when the short fortune-teller who escaped from prison?
(She was a small medium at large!)

You immediately tried to discredit me as soon as I voted scum. You lied about me also.

You definitely aren’t obv town. You have done other scummy things that I’ve pointed out already. I really don’t understand how anyone can town read you but to make sure I’m not completely biased I’m asking others for advice. If someone has a good argument for somebody else i’ll listen to it.

Regardless of your alignment You’re lucky I’m being reasonable.

Wh4t · Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:20 am

Well I think at this point it doesn't matter if we can get Arch cleared somehow. There's more than enough to solve the game from here so yeah shooting me or Maki would be the safest way to avoid hitting town PRs

Cedrick · Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:21 am

Why did the clown cross the road?
(To get his rubber chicken!)

Gamma and arch were the ones who led me to vote kian. They are not getting shot. Beef saw wht4 for the scummy player he is. He isn’t getting shot.

The 3-4 names I gave earlier are my current pool for the rest of the scum team.

StefanB · Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:23 am

Beefster makes sense.
Archwing would be weird, but it is the only town/scumpointcase of Kiana that wasn't totally crap (Koichi had one point that was okay)
BuJaber: Only if he defended his partner like crazy.
Gamma: Way too personal, I don't think between them that was faked.
Hiraki: I have lost my posibility to understand him, would have been a good bus.
Kaito: ???
Kokichi: Not imposible, voted Archwing for a long time, but found Kiana scummy.
Maki makes sense
Ras strongly pushed by Kiana, sorry him I will later reread.

Wh4t · Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:23 am

Shoot me or maki. I don't want you hitting the cop and noone else is obv scum enough to risk it.

What do other people think of this strategy?

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:24 am

Hey can people not soft unnecessarily please.

Wh4t · Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:26 am

Too late, what are your thoughts? Is anyone strongly scum enough to you?

BuJaber · Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:26 am

Cedrick was pushing kiana before she claimed. An uncc'ed provable, directable PR is never going to be lynched.
Kiana was a competing wagon with at minimum arch and hiraki.
If any of Kiana's scumreads are scum keeping them alive to shoot even for 1 night is dangerous for scum.
If she is not lynched they'd be forced to NK her and if there is doc they would fail.

There's scum motivation on both sides. There is equal town/scum motivation on kiana's side (staying alive).

We need to lynch elsewhere and have them shoot each other. This should be pretty obvious.

BuJaber · Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:28 am

Sorry should have mentioned this was a response to stefan asking about scum motiation for cc

Wh4t · Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:28 am

Bujaber why would scum claim vig of all roles?

Cedrick · Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:31 am

In post 1157, BuJaber wrote:We need to lynch elsewhere and have them shoot each other. This should be pretty obvious.

Why did the clown wear loud socks!
(So his feet wouldn't fall asleep!)

Already said this is a bad idea. You keep making yourself look bad by pushing it.

Wh4t · Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:32 am

I feel like they're informed somehow in that they can easily neutralise the shot. Alternatively they thought they could sell a multiball theory like Maki tried to do. Tomorrow it's game over for scum if people put all the pieces together.

Archwing · Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:33 am

In post 979, Wh4t wrote:
In post 207, Archwing wrote:also
UNVOTE: bujaber
good intro.
don't really like kiana's intro, but probtown.

In post 340, Archwing wrote:town to scum,

{archwing}
{bujaber, koki, stef}
{cedrick, maki}
{wh4t, gamma, brass, kaito, beef} ****
{kiana, rask}

* = null line. above it are slight townleans, nothing more.
Hi Arch, sorry if this has already been addressed. But can you go over how Kiana went from prob town to scum for you? Just hashing out rereads around Kiana's wagon.

hi. i'm reading up, and i'm up to here. so,
UNVOTE:

@wh4t,
I liked how kiana intro'd. I thought it was pretty tone-aly not scum. but then it continued, and continued. I remembered the first time I rolled scum, i was pretty aggressive and played a "in your face" style. it didn't work for me. those were the vibes that i got from kiana as it went on and on.

StefanB · Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:35 am

Selling multiball in a conformed 10:3 scenario?
I scum can do that they would autowin, because they could sell us everythink.

StefanB · Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:35 am

Archwing: What you will be facing Cedric CC Kiana.

Wh4t · Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:36 am

Yeah I think you're town Arch which would make kokichi look pretty bad but he needs to be reISOd and pushed for reads D2.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:36 am

In post 1156, Wh4t wrote:Too late, what are your thoughts? Is anyone strongly scum enough to you?

1145
I'd personally just shoot beef but if I absolutely couldn't I guess maybe kaito or kokichi (or maybe even maki but she talked pretty naturally with kiana for partners).

Archwing · Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:36 am

In post 1017, Raskolnikov wrote:Would that even pass normal review (which this game semi went through)?

we could have even/odd night vigs. i've seen that before.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:38 am

Kiana claimed 2 shot vig also both players essentially say they can shoot n1.

StefanB · Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:38 am

But both claimes 2-shot btw x-shot.

Wh4t · Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:40 am

In post 1163, StefanB wrote:Selling multiball in a conformed 10:3 scenario?
I scum can do that they would autowin, because they could sell us everythink.

I think scum are less likely to read the OP and propose that idea. I also think Maki not voting Kiana and asking to be vigged was pretty scummy. She knew she wasn't getting vigged today. It felt like posturing for town cred.

Wh4t · Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:42 am

In post 1169, StefanB wrote:But both claimes 2-shot btw x-shot.

Yeah that's another point, why fake claim 2-shot?

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:43 am

How many fakeclaims have you seen wh4t?

Wh4t · Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:44 am

In post 1172, Raskolnikov wrote:How many fakeclaims have you seen wh4t?

Too many. Literally about 5. I've also fake claimed myself.

BuJaber · Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:45 am

In post 1159, Wh4t wrote:Bujaber why would scum claim vig of all roles?

To draw out vig claim maybe? Possibly manipulate protectives?

Anyway that question only makes kiana look better so I'm not sure why you're asking someone who's TR'ing her.

In post 1160, Cedrick wrote:
In post 1157, BuJaber wrote:We need to lynch elsewhere and have them shoot each other. This should be pretty obvious.
Why did the clown wear loud socks!
(So his feet wouldn't fall asleep!)

Already said this is a bad idea. You keep making yourself look bad by pushing it.

It's not though. Your cc was bad or you're lying. I am trying to avoid a worst case scenario. 2 vig claims shooting each other is at least 1 for 1 and keeps the error margin contained within the 2 options.