Mini 1997: The Clownspiracy (Game Over!)


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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:23 am

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Vote Count 1-14

Real life footage of people at L-1!

Archwing (2, L-5)
: Kaito Momota, Hiraki
Kiana Kaslana
(6, L-1)!!!
: Cedrick, Raskolnikov, Kokichi Oma, StefanB, Wh4t, Archwing
Wh4t (1, L-6)
: Beefster
Hiraki (3, L-4)
: BuJaber, Maki Harukawa, Kiana Kaslana
Raskolnikov (1, L-6)
: Gamma Emerald

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With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.


Deadline: (expired on 2018-03-29 14:00:00)


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Last edited by Mathdino on Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:56 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:23 am

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Why not gamma? Does anyone strongly townread him?
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:26 am

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In post 1188, BuJaber wrote:Some posts imply you believe kiana more then others imply you believe cedrick.
I believe Cedrick more. You said you wanted to avoid worst case scenario so I tried to illustrate that worst case scenario isn't that bad. 2 town for 1 scum leaves 10 players 8v2 which is still heavily in our favour.
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:34 am

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If Kiana flips scum Koki spewing there's a possible mafia doc or RB makes no sense as Koki scum.
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:37 am

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Gamma please don't open that.

Kiana about Gamma:
Spoiler:
you self-hammering nincompoop.

What have you done? Lynch yourself? My, reading capabilities have been proven to be leagues above yours, so if you would refrain from being condescending to newbies, maybe you can improve.

Instead of whining about how your inferiority complex gets triggered by me when I only joined this site much later than you.

No, you are the one who should screw off. I am trying out a new system and you are taking a dump on it with unconvincing arguments. I am not sure if you are anti-newbie or anti-women or are upset that one with both of those traits can be better than you but all I know is you are getting in my way and playing anti-town.

With your own method you get pocketed by scum who are both pushing the same agenda as you and not pushing the same agenda as you. At least I can say my method is better on this front. I mentioned I only awards points for thinking similarly if they had the thought before I could state it, which is okay, but you should go find that evidence for yourself instead of making me doing busywork for you. I am not your little bitch. It is very obvious from my previous posts which you are clearly not reading. I don't know if you are not reading because you are stubborn, lazy, bad at reading, or just plain scum. Unfortunately three of those options are town-possible and only one is scum. Unfortunately again, only way I can maintain my sane respect for you is if you are the latter.


Do you think someone talks to a scumpartner like this?
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:41 am

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You self-hammering nincompoop.

What have you done? Lynch yourself? My, reading capabilities have been proven to be leagues above yours, so if you would refrain from being condescending to newbies, maybe you can improve.

Instead of whining about how your inferiority complex gets triggered by me when I only joined this site much later than you.

No, you are the one who should screw off. I am trying out a new system and you are taking a dump on it with unconvincing arguments. I am not sure if you are anti-newbie or anti-women or are upset that one with both of those traits can be better than you but all I know is you are getting in my way and playing anti-town.

With your own method you get pocketed by scum who are both pushing the same agenda as you and not pushing the same agenda as you. At least I can say my method is better on this front. I mentioned I only awards points for thinking similarly if they had the thought before I could state it, which is okay, but you should go find that evidence for yourself instead of making me doing busywork for you. I am not your little bitch. It is very obvious from my previous posts which you are clearly not reading. I don't know if you are not reading because you are stubborn, lazy, bad at reading, or just plain scum. Unfortunately three of those options are town-possible and only one is scum. Unfortunately again, only way I can maintain my sane respect for you is if you are the latter.
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:43 am

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Ras why quoting that?
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:44 am

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I mean I put it under a spoiler so that no one has to read it.
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:44 am

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Yes I definitely think so. The game she is referencing Be Yourself Mafia, look at how the amazing scum Cheeky and Mulch interacted with each other. Mulch discredited Cheeky's ability so noone would take her reads seriously, while Cheeky was bussing him D1. Which is what it looks like with Kiana discrediting Gamma but not weighing up his alignment while Gamma recycles everyone's arguments to use against her.
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:46 am

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For instance why is gamma wasting his vote now on Rask when it's clear town are lynching between the two vigs now?
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:49 am

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Because he is one of the Maki/Hiraki/Gamma/BuJabercrowd, they can't all be scum and they haven't accepted that we lynch between the vigs.
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:49 am

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i mean, that first line alone is genius

which is why i think this is a scumflip but not necessary still

im more confused why gamma, who loves meta, is still not on board with kiana scum after reading meta but its nothing i can and want to focus on

pre-edit: lynching between the vigs is still stupid and useless
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:50 am

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It is much safer for scum to talk yo each other like that with less repercussions than it would with SvT.
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:52 am

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In post 1210, StefanB wrote:Because he is one of the Maki/Hiraki/Gamma/BuJabercrowd, they can't all be scum and they haven't accepted that we lynch between the vigs.
BuJaber is the only person who has shown valid reasons for not wanting to. Hiraki is pretty unhelpful in general and Maki/Gamma can be scum.
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:55 am

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I'd shoot in Beef, Maki, Gamma
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:04 pm

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I'd shoot Arch or Rask. Don't care which.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:05 pm

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Can we hammer Kiana.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:07 pm

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By the way, if I said I was a mason. Who would believe me?

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How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:07 pm

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In post 1213, Wh4t wrote:Hiraki is pretty unhelpful in general
Yeah, I'm unhelpful because you guys have no clue what the fuck NAR is.
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:16 pm

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In post 1218, Hiraki wrote:
In post 1213, Wh4t wrote:Hiraki is pretty unhelpful in general
Yeah, I'm unhelpful because you guys have no clue what the fuck NAR is.
Maybe explaining it would be a better way than flipping us off?
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:30 pm

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In post 1217, Kokichi Oma wrote:By the way, if I said I was a mason. Who would believe me?
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Scum should. And they shouldn't kill until the have found your masonpartner.
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:12 am

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In post 1219, Wh4t wrote:
In post 1218, Hiraki wrote:
In post 1213, Wh4t wrote:Hiraki is pretty unhelpful in general
Yeah, I'm unhelpful because you guys have no clue what the fuck NAR is.
Maybe explaining it would be a better way than flipping us off?
What's the point?
In post 1081, Maki Harukawa wrote:PEDIT: THEY CLAIMED A ROLE THAT IS SELF RESOLVING

what is this hard to understand that the vigs are gonna shoot each other
scum doc isn't a thing
if we have a town doc they're not gonna be on the vigs

scum is gonna die tonight use the lynch on someone outside of it
Already done multiple times - what did you say about it?
In post 1213, Wh4t wrote:and Maki/Gamma can be scum.
Oh, okay - yeah, me explaining it will
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:32 am

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That's not really taking into account the unbreakable set-up where, if I understand it correctly, there can be a scum doc? Or even a mafia roleblocker, I don't understand what is hard to see about scum claiming vig because they must have counters to a vig? NAR has nothing to do with that.
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:15 am

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I think that if both claimed vigs shoot each other and nothing interfears we have 2 dead bodies is understood by everyone.

Posibilitys:
1. We lynch right: one dead scum today, one dead town tonight, and one vig kill
2. We lynch wrong: one dead vig today, one dead town tonight, one dead scum tomorrow
3. We lynch somewhere else: one dead ???, one dead vig(probably), one dead scum
4. We lynch somewhere else: one dead ???, vig kil blocked, day 2

The discusion is between people who belive we are doing 1, whith a very low possibility on 2, is better than the danger of 4 and better than 3. And the people who don't think about the posibilitys of 1+2 and just assume 3.
What this has to with NAR is anyones guess.

Okay Flavor Unbreakable is somethink that I may not be taken in account enough.
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:25 am

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That's a little unfair.

I'm not ignoring 1 and 2. I'm saying that the consequences of 2 are more probable than 4 and way worse than 3, which in turn is not that much worse than 1.

Like 1 is great (though vig is likely to shoot town) 3 is pretty good, 4 is quite bad but unlikely, 2 is bad.

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