Micro 794: Miss List II (Game Over)

[Something_Smart]

VC 1.1

Not_Mafia (2)- Mathdino, implosion
Chickadee (1)- CultOfAthena
MagnaofIllusion (1)- BuJaber
CultOfAthena (1)- MagnaofIllusion

Not voting (4)- Creature, Not_Mafia, Chickadee, HeathCliFF3

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

(expired on 2018-04-05 13:00:00)

Mod notes: HeathCliFF3 has 24 hours from game start to confirm or be replaced.

[CultOfAthena]

{BuJaber}
{Creature, Mathdino, Not_Mafia, implosion, HeathCliFF3}
{MagnaofIllusion, Chickadee}

[CultOfAthena]

Not liking BuJabr, for defending NM out of the gate.

What's scummy about Bu's line of questioning, or defending NM in general?

[Chickadee]

Not liking BuJabr, for defending NM out of the gate.

What's scummy about Bu's line of questioning, or defending NM in general?

There really isn't a lot of pressure on NM. I don't really see a need for defense at the moment.



Why did you vote me out of the gate, and then also list me as scummiest in your read list?

[CultOfAthena]

There really isn't a lot of pressure on NM. I don't really see a need for defense at the moment.

I mean, there was someone presumably seriously calling for his lynch. Bu's question makes perfect sense – a scumread on Magna along with an associative read on NM to me indicates a Magna lynch first, but math called for a policy lynch on NM to figure out Magna.

Explain how "I don't see a need for this" leads to "this is scummy"? Also, thoughts on the NM lynch itself?

Why did you vote me out of the gate, and then also list me as scummiest in your read list?

The vote was random. The read was because of 22.

[Chickadee]

I'm not currently entertaining the idea of a NM lynch. A lynch on him would purely be policy, and it's too early in the day for me to consider a policy lynch a possibility. Surely we can come up with something better, based in logic and actions. I'd rather have a mislynch for good reasons than a policy lynch.


And all I ever said was I didn't like Bu's defense. I didn't lay down a vote, or declare him scum. I just don't like that he's defending someone on page 1.

[Mathdino]

i mean there's a chance that magna is just really fucking weird town, but if he is, i would hope he sacrifices tonight if N_M flips scum

the scumread is mostly from the weird-ass association to N_M

Edit: DID SOMEONE SAY POLICY

[CultOfAthena]

{BuJaber}
{Creature, Mathdino, Not_Mafia, implosion, HeathCliFF3}
{MagnaofIllusion}
{Chickadee}

[Mathdino]

VOTE: Not_Mafia
VOTE: Not_MafiaVOTE: Not_Mafia
VOTE: Not_Mafia
VOTE: Not_MafiaVOTE: Not_Mafia
VOTE: Not_Mafia

Edit: chickadee is lynchbait, i don't see how any of this is alignment indicative for her so far

[CultOfAthena]

i mean there's a chance that magna is just really fucking weird town, but if he is, i would hope he sacrifices tonight if N_M flips scum

the scumread is mostly from the weird-ass association to N_M

Edit: DID SOMEONE SAY POLICY

Why would NM not be the default one to be sacrificed? Lynching someone readable and having someone unreadable sacrifice makes far more sense to me.

[Mathdino]

because what happens if magna flips town

[CultOfAthena]

What? I don't follow.

[Mathdino]

mislynching not_mafia is much less risky than mislynching magna i think

[CultOfAthena]

mislynching not_mafia is much less risky than mislynching magna i think

Risky in what sense?

[Mathdino]

in that i prefer to have a hypothetical town-Magna around than a hypothetical town-Not_Mafia?

like if N_M flips town, i'm not scumreading magna nearly as hard

if magna flips town, fuck me up

now if either flips scum the other should clearly sacrifice

and magna is also more likely to go along with that methinks

[Not_Mafia]

Why are we talking like it's page 200 when it's page 2?

[Mathdino]

pages start coming and they don't stop coming
fed the game rules so i hit the ground running
didn't make sense not to live for fun
the game's by Smart but the town gets dumb

so much to do, so much to see
so what's wrong with lynching by policy?
you'll never know if you don't go
you'll never shine if you don't glow

[implosion]

Math, walk me through *exactly* the logic for why post 4 means that Not_Mafia scum -> Magna scum.

Because it's logically equivalent to say that that post means that Magna town -> Not_Mafia town, and if Magna is town then that post shouldn't imply anything about N_M's alignment.

[Mathdino]

oh yeah you're right good point

honestly i just want to lynch not_mafia

but i accept that the correct logic is

Magna scum --> Not_Mafia scumbuddy
N_M town --> Magna less likely to be scum

[Mathdino]

like if N_M flips town, i'm not scumreading magna nearly as hard

yeah this still holds

i made a logic oopsie

that said, flipping not_mafia as scum still makes magna more likely to be scum in a kind of bayesian way imo

[Creature]

Yey this game started.

[Mathdino]

Yey this game started.

How can we solve this game?

[Creature]

Yey this game started.

How can we solve this game?

[implosion]

i thought you already solved the game math

[Mathdino]

"How can *I* solve this game" is different from "How can *we* solve this game"

implosion pls lern 2 red