Micro 792: Three in One (Day 6)

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:27 pm

In post 118, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 111, Not_Mafia wrote:Gamma just taking potshots is weird, seems more about discrediting than gamesolving
Mhm I'd love to hear where this goes
In post 112, Not_Mafia wrote:I was confirmed town that game too
Not. Even. ONCE!

Gamma is so town. NM is so scum. I'm going to stop analysing his ISO at this point.

PenguinPower · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:29 pm

I don't have a hook to get off. I voted you partially as a counterwagon to nsg (both three votes at the time) to see what might happen and partially because you hadn't answered my question about nm (which you amazingly did 4 minutes after; hence the Beetlejuice gif). I din't like your interactions with nsg, so I'm content where I am.

Hey, where'd that nonexistent hook go?

p-edit

Why is Gamma town?

Mathdino · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:34 pm

Regardless of which of you is right

Thankfully, NSG is still scum

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:35 pm

OK that actually makes a lot of sense I guess Penguin, but I can't be 24/7 active like I used to be in the past so me beetlejuicing is sometimes just a casualty of my schedule.
Also you secretly L-1ed me

?

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:36 pm

In post 651, PenguinPower wrote:Why is Gamma town?

Gamma is town because he's acting natural and not driving an agenda. His points are valid and, yes there is fluff but that is what I enjoy about Gamma. Initially he was a suspect to me because I thought he was calling for votes on you in RVS without voting, but he was actually already voting you. Since then, he's not trying too hard and feels very natural. His dismissive reaction to being scum read is super towny, and when I eluded to believing he was town he passively pushed back against me by having doubts about my alignment when asked, in contrast to how scum often act of making a show of being pocketed etc.

Why is Gamma scum?

PenguinPower · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:37 pm

In post 653, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also you secretly L-1ed me ?

p.sure I only took you to L-2. NSG was L-2 at the time.

PenguinPower · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:43 pm

In post 654, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 651, PenguinPower wrote:Why is Gamma town?
Why is Gamma scum?

Gamma is scumbecause he doesn't come across as acting natural and has no real stance on anyone. His points don't come across as valid and, yes there is fluff and that is what I see as scummy about Gamma. Initially I didn't suspect him because he was calling for votes on me in RVS, and that is totally alignment indicative. Since then, he's not trying too hard and feels very fluid. His dismissive reaction to being scum read is something scum could easily do to gain towncred (especially when not really in danger), and when Cheeky eluded to believing he was town he passively pushed back against her by having doubts about her alignment when asked, in contrast to how town often act of making a show of being pocketed etc.

Sorry, Cheeky, but that was a bunch of buzzwords and nonsense that anyone of any alignment could do. Gamma hasn't really engaged in anything, pushed NM for a weak reason, and his entire exchange with NSG feels fake. Especially putting her to an unannounced L-1 then finding a "reason" for unvoting a short few hours later. I don't see town.

Mathdino · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:55 pm

oh boy how about we flip NSG to determine gamma's alignment

ISO · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:56 pm

In post 657, Mathdino wrote:oh boy how about we flip NSG to determine gamma's alignment

that will definitely work.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:58 pm

In post 655, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 653, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also you secretly L-1ed me ?
p.sure I only took you to L-2. NSG was L-2 at the time.

ah, awkward phrasing then

Mathdino · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:59 pm

In post 658, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 657, Mathdino wrote:oh boy how about we flip NSG to determine gamma's alignment
that will definitely work.

can't tell if sarcasm

PenguinPower · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:59 pm

In post 657, Mathdino wrote:oh boy how about we flip NSG to determine gamma's alignment

Not opposed.

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:00 pm

Gamma am I defending scum you? D:

Mathdino · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:01 pm

i have a really horribad feeling that NSG-scum will claim tracker or doc when run up :/

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:02 pm

In post 656, PenguinPower wrote:Sorry, Cheeky, but that was a bunch of buzzwords and nonsense that anyone of any alignment could do. Gamma hasn't really engaged in anything, pushed NM for a weak reason, and his entire exchange with NSG feels fake. Especially putting her to an unannounced L-1 then finding a "reason" for unvoting a short few hours later. I don't see town.

This would have been useful a long time ago. Lol "buzzwords" - when mafia takes over your life and you no longer realise you're using jargon in everyday speech.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:03 pm

In post 656, PenguinPower wrote:Gamma ... has no real stance on anyone.

Completely wrong

His points don't come across as valid and, yes there is fluff and that is what I see as scummy about Gamma.

Terrible reason to scumread me I believe you definitely have seen me fluff as both alignments

Initially I didn't suspect him because he was calling for votes on me in RVS, and that is totally alignment indicative.

I don't get the point here.

Since then, he's not trying too hard and feels very fluid.

What's wrong with that?

His dismissive reaction to being scum read is something scum could easily do to gain towncred (especially when not really in danger)

When was this?

, and when Cheeky eluded to believing he was town he passively pushed back against her by having doubts about her alignment

See above

, when asked, in contrast to how town often act of making a show of being pocketed etc.

Sorry, Cheeky, but that was a bunch of buzzwords and nonsense that anyone of any alignment could do. Gamma hasn't really engaged in anything, pushed NM for a weak reason, and his entire exchange with NSG feels fake. Especially putting her to an unannounced L-1 then finding a "reason" for unvoting a short few hours later. I don't see town.

I'm baffled how you think my exchange with NSG was fake, I feel like that should have shone through as me really trying to sort her.
This whole case kinda feels like a stretch imo.
VOTE: PenguinPower

PenguinPower · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:04 pm

What?

I was talking about Gamma's exchange with nsg...

PenguinPower · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:04 pm

Oh, oops. My internet sucks.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:05 pm

In post 662, CheekyTeeky wrote:Gamma am I defending scum you? D:

I don't think so, but it's not something that's 100% off the table. I think your townread feels rather natural but I haven't looked at it to hard past the first few sentences.
btw Mathdino's post after this confirms the setup as goon-goon if he's scum

PenguinPower · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:06 pm

In post 663, Mathdino wrote:i have a really horribad feeling that NSG-scum will claim tracker or doc when run up :/

Why?

Mathdino · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:07 pm

In post 668, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 662, CheekyTeeky wrote:Gamma am I defending scum you? D:
I don't think so, but it's not something that's 100% off the table. I think your townread feels rather natural but I haven't looked at it to hard past the first few sentences.
btw Mathdino's post after this confirms the setup as goon-goon if he's scum

what the fuck
i'm gonna need you to stop speculating on the role indicativeness of the things i say

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:08 pm

In post 663, Mathdino wrote:i have a really horribad feeling that NSG-scum will claim tracker or doc when run up :/

Yeah giving NSG scum ideas about how to make the most of her lynch is a great idea.

I don't understand the point of this post.

Interesting irrelevant point: I use the word horribad or terribad when I'm scum. Never as town. I've had to teach myself not to do it as it's a problematic tell.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:08 pm

In post 664, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 656, PenguinPower wrote:Sorry, Cheeky, but that was a bunch of buzzwords and nonsense that anyone of any alignment could do. Gamma hasn't really engaged in anything, pushed NM for a weak reason, and his entire exchange with NSG feels fake. Especially putting her to an unannounced L-1 then finding a "reason" for unvoting a short few hours later. I don't see town.
This would have been useful a long time ago. Lol "buzzwords" - when mafia takes over your life and you no longer realise you're using jargon in everyday speech.

Actually wrt mafia buzzwords is like it's own thing, things like OMGUS and AtE are regarded as buzzwords. I typically try to nuance my thoughts when I'm doing anything associated with a buzzword, but I do think indiscriminate use of buzzwords is bad play.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:08 pm

In post 670, Mathdino wrote:
In post 668, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 662, CheekyTeeky wrote:Gamma am I defending scum you? D:
I don't think so, but it's not something that's 100% off the table. I think your townread feels rather natural but I haven't looked at it to hard past the first few sentences.
btw Mathdino's post after this confirms the setup as goon-goon if he's scum
what the fuck
i'm gonna need you to stop speculating on the role indicativeness of the things i say

Yeah no I'll say what I want. If you're scum that's most likely a discredit move meaning you believe both of those roles could be in the game, making it goon-goon

PenguinPower · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:10 pm

In post 665, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 656, PenguinPower wrote:Gamma ... has no real stance on anyone.
Completely wrong
His points don't come across as valid and, yes there is fluff and that is what I see as scummy about Gamma.
Terrible reason to scumread me I believe you definitely have seen me fluff as both alignments
Initially I didn't suspect him because he was calling for votes on me in RVS, and that is totally alignment indicative.
I don't get the point here.
Since then, he's not trying too hard and feels very fluid.
What's wrong with that?
His dismissive reaction to being scum read is something scum could easily do to gain towncred (especially when not really in danger)
When was this?
, and when Cheeky eluded to believing he was town he passively pushed back against her by having doubts about her alignment
See above
, when asked, in contrast to how town often act of making a show of being pocketed etc.

Sorry, Cheeky, but that was a bunch of buzzwords and nonsense that anyone of any alignment could do. Gamma hasn't really engaged in anything, pushed NM for a weak reason, and his entire exchange with NSG feels fake. Especially putting her to an unannounced L-1 then finding a "reason" for unvoting a short few hours later. I don't see town.
I'm baffled how you think my exchange with NSG was fake, I feel like that should have shone through as me really trying to sort her.
This whole case kinda feels like a stretch imo.
VOTE: PenguinPower

You realize I was being somewhat condescending to show why Cheeky's towncase on you was not a good one, and that it was almost word-for-word what she wrote, except I change town to scum (and added a few modifications)? I'm not going to answer your point by point there...defensive though.

I completely feel like you exchange with NSG was fake, and it didn't shine through as you trying to sort her. It felt more like you want credit for suspecting her because she seems like an inevitable lynch with Math pushing as he is, and then realizing you put her at L-1 and unvoting. I'm baffled you don't how you don't think that.