Micro 792: Three in One (Day 6)

[CheekyTeeky]

Gamma am I defending scum you? D:

I don't think so, but it's not something that's 100% off the table. I think your townread feels rather natural but I haven't looked at it to hard past the first few sentences.
btw Mathdino's post after this confirms the setup as goon-goon if he's scum

Are you saying you don't know your own alignment??

[Mathdino]

Yeah giving NSG scum ideas about how to make the most of her lynch is a great idea. I don't understand the point of this post.

you don't know what my plan is

also people seem to get really anxious about the idea of "giving scum ideas" on this site when the reality is that scum isn't braindead and me saying "scum optimal strategy is to do [x]" either
A. preempts them actually doing it
B. forces them to do something suboptimal instead

it's fine, things are fine

i know what is and isn't dangerous to say and i also know how to WIFOM the scum lol

interesting irrelevant point: the last time you warned me against "giving scum ideas" you were scum yourself lol

[CheekyTeeky]

Sorry, Cheeky, but that was a bunch of buzzwords and nonsense that anyone of any alignment could do.

Further to this, I want to say that explaining my town reads is my biggest weakness. I have feelings people are town but I suck at expressing those feelings. Call it gut if that's more palatable for you.

[PenguinPower]

That's fine. I just don't agree.

[Mathdino]

Gamma am I defending scum you? D:

I don't think so, but it's not something that's 100% off the table. I think your townread feels rather natural but I haven't looked at it to hard past the first few sentences.
btw Mathdino's post after this confirms the setup as goon-goon if he's scum

what the fuck
i'm gonna need you to stop speculating on the role indicativeness of the things i say

Yeah no I'll say what I want. If you're scum that's most likely a discredit move meaning you believe both of those roles could be in the game, making it goon-goon

what the fuck

both of those roles could be in the game

in 2 different columns of this setup

gamma you're so bad when it comes to spewing yourself and others' roles please just stop

[CheekyTeeky]

interesting irrelevant point: the last time you warned me against "giving scum ideas" you were scum yourself lol

Yes this is very true! What is scum meta, without a good dollop of town meta hey?

[Mathdino]

also if i were a mafia roleblocker how does me saying that imply to you that i believe NSG is actually tracker/doctor and isn't just me casually bullshitting

like it's hard for me to break down how bad that argument is without doing something to the effect of WELL HOW DO YOU KNOW IM NOT SCUM DOING SO-AND-SO and you being like "okay i guess you ARE scum WIFOMing me out"

i'm just trying to tell you that your spec is bad and continuing to do this is not helpful

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: nsg

I feel like this is where we need to end up today. I don't think we've progressed much from it over the past two days, and we have three days left.

[Gamma Emerald]

I completely feel like you exchange with NSG was fake, and it didn't shine through as you trying to sort her. It felt more like you want credit for suspecting her because she seems like an inevitable lynch with Math pushing as he is, and then realizing you put her at L-1 and unvoting. I'm baffled you don't how you don't think that.

I feel like my questioning had a natural progression. I didn't realize she was L-1 ok cool but I'd like to know why that makes me scum. Also I don't like to bus, and bussing in micros is bad play in general. So I don't see why I don't just keep being clueless as to the whole Math v NSG argument rather than take the side of the person trying to lynch my scumbuddy

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma am I defending scum you? D:

I don't think so, but it's not something that's 100% off the table. I think your townread feels rather natural but I haven't looked at it to hard past the first few sentences.
btw Mathdino's post after this confirms the setup as goon-goon if he's scum

Are you saying you don't know your own alignment??

I misread the question
Thought you were asking if I thought you were scum defending me

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah giving NSG scum ideas about how to make the most of her lynch is a great idea. I don't understand the point of this post.

you don't know what my plan is

also people seem to get really anxious about the idea of "giving scum ideas" on this site when the reality is that scum isn't braindead and me saying "scum optimal strategy is to do [x]" either
A. preempts them actually doing it
B. forces them to do something suboptimal instead

it's fine, things are fine

i know what is and isn't dangerous to say and i also know how to WIFOM the scum lol

interesting irrelevant point: the last time you warned me against "giving scum ideas" you were scum yourself lol

You know what I'll let this go because I just remembered Tit For Tat where you preempted scum considering fakeclaiming JK and I believe you preempted your kill n1

[PenguinPower]

I didn't realize she was L-1 ok cool but I'd like to know why that makes me scum.

Vote -> quick unvote - I explained

Also I don't like to bus, and bussing in micros is bad play in general.

Meh...I always hardbus in Newbies/micros as scum. Fantastic results. That argument doesn't really sway me.

[Mathdino]

uh just for the record guys

gamma never put NSG at L-1

the wagon at the time was
Mathdino, RedFlavor, Gamma Emerald
because cheeky bounced off and voted N_M

...that said this is probably not going to change either of your reads

i would advocate for gamma emerald or cheekyteeky getting checked tonight, those alignments would solve a lot

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I don't like to bus, and bussing in micros is bad play in general.

Meh...I always hardbus in Newbies/micros as scum. Fantastic results. That argument doesn't really sway me.

If you bus as scum in micros regularly then you aren't a good scum player imo. Your goal isn't to be towny it's to get town lynched. Plus you put yourself up for trackers and roleblockers to clear people.

[PenguinPower]

gamma never put NSG at L-1

Truth. My bad on the count. Still doesn't change my read on the speed, but lessens it.

[Errantparabola]

Votecount 1.8

northsidegal

(3): Mathdino, Red Flavor, PenguinPower

Gamma Emerald

(2): Not_Mafia, Something_Smart

Mathdino

(2): Bambietta Basterbine, northsidegal

Not_Mafia

(1): CheekyTeeky

PenguinPower

(1): Gamma Emerald

Not Voting

(0):

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to achieve a lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2018-03-26 09:00:00)

[Mathdino]

so what are the odds jay puts himself on the exact same wagon as his scumbuddy

that's not a leading question, i'm legit trying to figure this out

[PenguinPower]

If you bus as scum in micros regularly then you aren't a good scum player imo. Your goal isn't to be towny it's to get town lynched. Plus you put yourself up for trackers and roleblockers to clear people.

Ok, dude. Not going to compare win records here.

[CheekyTeeky]

Seriously? How am I not obv town to you people? I don't see the point of wasting an invest on me when there are slots that are much more dubious.

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma never put NSG at L-1

Truth. My bad on the count. Still doesn't change my read on the speed, but lessens it.

Okay I cut out my response to the first half of the last Penguin post I quoted to get his response to this, and it's not the best and still kinda feels a bit Regardless Of but I'm not too incensed to call him scum for this reaction
Also Mathdino is town, why does he correct PP when it's just as well he could leave it be and let PP keep pushing me

[Mathdino]

Seriously? How am I not obv town to you people? I don't see the point of wasting an invest on me when there are slots that are much more dubious.

okay raybells

[PenguinPower]

[CheekyTeeky]

Seriously? How am I not obv town to you people? I don't see the point of wasting an invest on me when there are slots that are much more dubious.

okay raybells

well if NSG flips town the invest should go on you, otherwise whatever.

[Something_Smart]

oh boy how about we flip NSG to determine gamma's alignment

that will definitely work.

can't tell if sarcasm

me? sarcastic? never...

[CheekyTeeky]

oh boy how about we flip NSG to determine gamma's alignment

that will definitely work.

can't tell if sarcasm

me? sarcastic? never...

In the great battle of Math vs NSG, who do choose?