Mini Normal 1996: Floral Mafia [Endgame!]

[northsidegal]

VC 2.7

votes

Tchill13

(2): Gamma Emerald, Luca Blight

MariaR

(4): Hopkirk, Ausuka, Havo, Tchill13

Havo

(1): MariaR

Not Voting

(4): Creature, Flavor Leaf, Mumble, Kookoobird

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch

The day 2 deadline is in

: (expired on 2018-04-01 12:33:59)

Mod Notes

: If I have your vote wrong please let me know.

[Tchill13]

Can you claim, Tchill?

If iI claim VT I'll be insta lynched. If I claim PR I'll be called a liar and lynched. There's no oint .

[Kookoobird]

What if I have a result that could be an innocent depending on your claim?

[Gamma Emerald]

implosion,

Mafia 1-Shot Strongman

, was lynched Day 1.

Night one ends in (expired on 2018-03-20 00:33:59).

1-Shot strongman. I'm surprised you don't know this and you're probably faking ignorance because of that, but if there's a strongman, it's likely to counter some town protective/blocking. Only one time it was not included for that reason was because it was instead there as a rolecop guilty where every mafia had the modifier

[Tchill13]

What if I have a result that could be an innocent depending on your claim?

I'm a VT.

[Tchill13]

And we're gonna assume scum though to kill the guy who mentioned vig, a PR that is worth protecting, over the guy who claimed tracker?

[Gamma Emerald]

And we're gonna assume scum though to kill the guy who mentioned vig, a PR that is worth protecting, over the guy who claimed tracker?

Excuse me? How is an offhand mention of vig important? He didn't flip vig or scum so it's irrelevant.

[Tchill13]

And we're gonna assume scum though to kill the guy who mentioned vig, a PR that is worth protecting, over the guy who claimed tracker?

Excuse me? How is an offhand mention of vig important? He didn't flip vig or scum so it's irrelevant.

Is it? Tell me why scum killed him. Give me a better reason than that.

[Gamma Emerald]

1) he was powertown
2) no one really wanted to lynch him outside of Cedrick
3) Mumble was the only claimed PR that would need protection, therefore it wasn't wise to shoot there

[Hopkirk]

@Kookoo: Your links are broken. I tried a few variations- removing parts. Just leads to errors. What should I change to make them work.

[Kookoobird]

Greetings! I am Kookoobird. I am going to read the thread with the knowledge that Implosion is scum, this is started during night 1 so any future flips will not be accounted for.

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If Tchill flips scum, an Implosion - Tchill - Brass team could be implied from this. Weird RVS reason and a good nonchalant way to chainsaw defend a partner that will not normally be called out.

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Posturing. If it wasn’t clear from the above, from the little I’ve skimmed Tchill is my scumspect.

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Yes, yes you are. I’m cringing on your behalf at the thread so far.

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Mumble is town, this is scum trying to set up associations with a townie, its a way of pocketing. Not “why am I guilty”, “why are we guilty”.

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Good post. Luca can be town. Tchill’s reflexive town read of KTS is probably from scum to dissuade him from pushing.

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First sentence is agree. The rest of the post is annoying Cedrick being annoying Cedrick.

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Thanks for highlighting KTS’ post. KTS is scummy for that. KTS and Tchill likely contains 1 scum.

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Sigh.

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I town read Gamma and Ausuka at this stage. Cedrick and Maria are null and KTS is eh. Bad post.

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It’s not a deliberate attempt for town cred, it is a deliberate attempt to make a joke. It isn’t funny, but it isn’t AI.

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Good post.

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Bad post.

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Good post.

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Discredit of a good post. I’m glad ya’ll lynched Implosion successfully. I would have shouted at you if this obvious day 1 didn’t go better.

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Ugh. Bad post from Gamma.

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I am going to tunnel Tchill when I get into the game as of now.

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I am someone who can consistently lynch scum more than 25% of the time. Nice to meet you.

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Just quoting this to say I empathize with KTS.

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I don’t know if I call this scummy bad or just bad bad, but I expect way more from Maria. She should know it is a joke. Disappointing. Scum points if KTS is scum, but I think KTS is town so who the fuck knows.

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Bad post.

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Welcome to the normal queue. Have a seat.

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Lol.

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Found a way to switch off Implosion, shocking.

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Setting up a Cedrick scumread, shocking. That’s NAI for Cedrick and you should know that.

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Town.

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Town.

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Awful post.

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Oh, shut up.

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If you are scum, good job. KTS and Mumble town from this post. Mostly Mumble.

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Ausuka could be scum, meh.

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Scummy posting.

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Scummier posting. That said, Havo is never scum with Luca. Yay PoE.

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Implosion has AtE’d and lurked all game with no gamesolving. I would love to hear this town lean justification.

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Town.

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Gross.

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Why hasn’t Tchill gotten more pressure at this point? All of his posts are scummy and backwards as hell.

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Scummy. Brass’ scum game is pitiful iirc.

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Ausuka - Tchill - Implosion is a fun solve.

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Just because you are spamming does not mean she’s lurking.

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Just because you are spamming does not mean she’s lurking.

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Fair reads.

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A pool of 2 strong TRs and a moderate TR. Classy.

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Other than Gamma, close to identical reads. Good Hopkirk.

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Oh boy.

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Town.

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Good post.

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Oh boy.

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10/10.

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Lol.

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Lol to both of you.

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You are hilariously bad if you’re town.

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Bravo.

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Nice.

As of night 1, I’m at the below in no particular order within categories. Town at top.

Creature - Mumble - Havo
KTS - Hopkirk
Katherine - Gamma
Null: Maria
Cedrick - Ausuka - Luca
Tchill

should be fixed

[Hopkirk]

luca wagon is super pure and super ok.

vig shoot implosion

wait nvm read the game maria linked. he's scum here LOL.

i've nailed like 2 wolves already, but there might be a wolf eluding me. depends on tchill's flip.

deepwolf: maria or gamma (this depends on flips), implosion, mumble, tchill wolves.

ausoka, katherine gotta be sorted.

i think that's sorta gamesolving, but a wolf might be eluding me.

3 wolves. maria or gamma probably a deepwolf. implosion, ausoka, mumble carries like 2 out of three wolves.

lock v is prob gonna be creature and cedrick.

Just posting this for reference while I look at start of day again.

[Hopkirk]

Not sure how useful VCA is right now. The implo wagon was really quick and the lack of resistance to it leads me to believe that scum were probably bussing implo. I don't see how my d1 voting makes me scum here.
That said my d1 reads were probably still disastarous and I'm just going to refresh them at this point.

This is really bad
Could explain a KTS kill too. If KTS brought Mumble's claim, he'd be going for Ausuka.

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: katherine

Ausuka is my 2nd biggest SR. Gamma is a scum lean.

Maria, KTS and Cedrick town. Luca is a town lean.

Rest is null.

Ausuku/Tchill?

VOTE: Ausuka

[Hopkirk]

Fits votecounts well.
Fits kill well (Tchill bringing up the point about KTS being possible vig could be because discussed as mafia, Tchill was concerned about how KTS viewed him, KTS was likely going for Ausuka today).

[Tchill13]

VOTE: ausuka

If ausuka flips scum and I'm auto lynched because of it that's fine. It's worth trading one scum for one town.

[Hopkirk]

Just noticed that North manages to get her votecounts consistently at the 50 post mark.

200: A on MariaR, I on Katherine, T on Mumble
250/300/350- I+T on Katherine, A on nobody
400- T on I, A on Mumble, I on KTS. Need to look why Katherine went from 5 votes to 1.
525- A+T on Mumble, I on KTS
575- A+T+I on Mumble
625, same to 875- A on Luca, T+I on Mumble (why no counterwagon forming to 3 votes on Ausuka?)
925- T on Creature, I on Mumble, A on Luca
1000- I+T on Mumble, A on Luca
1050- Same. Implosion wagon is now me + Luca + Mumble.
1100- T on I, I on Mumble, A on Luca
1117- A+T+I on L
1825- A+T on MariaR

Spread out. Minimal bussing. Pushes mislynchable players. Consistently on top wagons (only on Luca or Mumble for long). Off wagon at end. Makes sense ish.

[Ausuka]

Hopkirk are you actually basing your view of KTS's reads from page 11?

[Tchill13]

1) he was powertown
2) no one really wanted to lynch him outside of Cedrick
3) Mumble was the only claimed PR that would need protection, therefore it wasn't wise to shoot there

These are OK.

[Ausuka]

Not sure how useful VCA is right now. The implo wagon was really quick and the lack of resistance to it leads me to believe that scum were probably bussing implo. I don't see how my d1 voting makes me scum here.
That said my d1 reads were probably still disastarous and I'm just going to refresh them at this point.

This is really bad
Could explain a KTS kill too. If KTS brought Mumble's claim, he'd be going for Ausuka.

How was it really bad though. There's nothing wrong with it.

[Ausuka]

VOTE: katherine

Ausuka is my 2nd biggest SR. Gamma is a scum lean.

Maria, KTS and Cedrick town. Luca is a town lean.

Rest is null.

Ausuku/Tchill?

VOTE: Ausuka

what

[Hopkirk]

Hopkirk are you actually basing your view of KTS's reads from page 11?

What do you think his reads were?

[Ausuka]

Town read Mumble and you, scumread Luca probably.

[Hopkirk]

Not sure how useful VCA is right now. The implo wagon was really quick and the lack of resistance to it leads me to believe that scum were probably bussing implo. I don't see how my d1 voting makes me scum here.
That said my d1 reads were probably still disastarous and I'm just going to refresh them at this point.

This is really bad
Could explain a KTS kill too. If KTS brought Mumble's claim, he'd be going for Ausuka.

How was it really bad though. There's nothing wrong with it.

Waiting to see where things lie is classicy kind of scummy. Post is that + discrediting things that would point to you as scum when considered.
Feels kind of deliberate.
The certaintly in the first points (that could make you suspicious) conflicts to an extent with the uncertain tone of the last sentence.

[Hopkirk]

Town read Mumble and you, scumread Luca probably.

I was assuming that, unless stated to have changed, his reads hadn't changed.