In post 218, Something_Smart wrote:These are probably my best recent scumgames. Cosmopolitan (playing as the then-secret alt iiSq5024) Chocolate Mafia
I can give you context if you want, or you can just take a completely unbiased look.
In post 405, Bambietta Basterbine wrote:SS would be my scumlean atm since his very first post. Just haven't like anything from him since. More of a toneread.
Tonereading only works if you know exactly how to apply it to the particular person you are tonereading, and even then it's tricky.
Bottom line: you can't toneread me.
There's so much self-hinting from SS at not being scum. Providing links seems a little overreactive to Math suspecting him. All it shows is SS is aware of his meta, not that he's overly helpful town. I get the impression that SS is trying to pocket Math from their interactions.
SS's ISO is just a bunch of discrediting others reads here and there (not quoted look for yourself). Nothing consistent, and when he's asked for any scum reads he says he has none. Not sure how shutting down everyone's reads while having none yourself works out for anyone. More coming.
Also the point of the links is not that I'm willing to give them; you should READ the links. Just because I'm aware of my meta doesn't mean I can replicate it with any degree of success as scum.
because you're about the only person I don't townread (other than Not_Mafia who I'm not going to push at this point in time) and I've seen you do towny things early on in other games
I don't really see why having forced jokes makes him scummy, I feel like he'd be able to joke just as well as either alignment.
Forced jokes = he's not really into doing them, but he's doing it anyway to try and look like standard NM
Why would he be less into them as scum?
In post 569, Something_Smart wrote:Should clarify that. Only person I don't townread to SOME degree. Most of them are slight.
SS is too self-aware. Look at how he keeps trying to keep lynch options available while giving bad reasoning on Gamma vote. In fact his whole ISO seems too self-aware.
1. Do you think scum were more likely on or of the wagon? Why?
2. Who are your strongest TRs and SRs with the info available from the flip?
Pedit: too self-aware in general. Like it looked like you cared about how Math was seeing you and you cared about remaining ambiguous with your reads in a way I think town are not. I wouldn't worry about EBWOPing the strength of my reads with a post when I'm not being asked about the strength of my reads. Keeping your reads undefined helps scum you not town you imo.
In post 980, CheekyTeeky wrote:Look at how he keeps trying to keep lynch options available while giving bad reasoning on Gamma vote.
This is begging the question. You're describing what my motivation would be assuming I'm scum, and then saying that therefore it's scummy.
Damn you reminded me I have a philosophy assignment due in a few days. Yes I hunt for scum tells and try to piece everything together/weigh scummy players against each other. You can't say oh hey I've done nothing explicitly scummy therefore you're not allowed to try and see my actions as scum. I'm thinking since most people here have shown scummy behaviour then I should look for scum in my nullish reads too as staying under my radar becomes an indicator of scum too.
1. I don't think somebody's presence on that wagon affects their chance of being scum. The way it formed, with very loud support from Math who then died, means that it was likely to go through whether scum bussed or not.
2. Townreads are you because your play yesterday and today doesn't seem agenda driven, Not_Mafia because he had a decent chance of walking into a forced loss by hammering nsg before she could draw a PR cc, and RedFlavor because I trust Math's meta.
In post 983, CheekyTeeky wrote:Pedit: too self-aware in general. Like it looked like you cared about how Math was seeing you and you cared about remaining ambiguous with your reads in a way I think town are not. I wouldn't worry about EBWOPing the strength of my reads with a post when I'm not being asked about the strength of my reads. Keeping your reads undefined helps scum you not town you imo.
Maybe not, but you and I are different people. I try to make myself as clear as possible and always say exactly what I mean. I didn't mean to imply that I thought literally every other player except Gamma was town, and so I hastened to correct that.
Forgot the second part of 2. I came into the day thinking scum was probably in <Gamma, PenguinPower>. Been thinking about Bambi and have not come to a conclusion yet.
