Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Maestro]

World Congress

Voting for a Congress Host
(Day 3 - Update 5.0)

On Day 3, all players receive 3 delegates for assignment in the World Congress.
The Host receives an additional 3 delegates, for a total of 6 delegates.

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Spoiler: Delegates Cast (13)

[7] HEAL: HOST - Joey_: Joey_ (2), Kiana Kaslana (2), BuJaber (3)
[6] HEAL: HOST - brassherald: Joey_ (1), Kiana Kaslana (1), Titus (1), Almost50 (3)

Spoiler: Delegates Not Cast in Host Election (32)

brassherald

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6

), Chara (3), Gamma Emerald (3), Klazam (3), Titus (2), Shaziro (3), pidgey (3), Jodaxq (3), marshy (3), ranmaru (3)

NOTES

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• [*]

  brassherald

  remains Host unless/until a new one is elected
  [*]

  Joey_

  was the runner up on Day 2

[Joey_]

So i was correct, the Host delegates does add-up

[BuJaber]

Did anybody argue against that? All we said was it was tied to host and not to brass.

[Chara]

i actually don't mind the gimmick, but in practice translating it is difficult.
NAI for Pine, though. i've seen him do this in games i've read.

[Chara]

Bujaber: i'm not sure what you're saying regarding my reads and your townread on me.
i think i've been doing well this game when it comes to identifying town. Creature's meta is obvious and easy. :> i did think ActionDan had a good chance of flipping scum, and i want to believe my Klazam and Kiana reads are right.
i think i'm coming back to Gamma scum, though. :<

[Titus]

I need the day. I'm in a bad place due to RL right now.

[Chara]

but that's mechanical. by his play and meta i still want to call him town. i just can't think of alternatives, but i think they could exist.

pedit: i don't want to rush the day either.

[Kiana Kaslana]

I need the day. I'm in a bad place due to RL right now.

<3 you from the bottom of my heart. Hope you have good luck to overcome your challenges.

[BuJaber]

Bujaber: i'm not sure what you're saying regarding my reads and your townread on me.
i think i've been doing well this game when it comes to identifying town. Creature's meta is obvious and easy. :> i did think ActionDan had a good chance of flipping scum, and i want to believe my Klazam and Kiana reads are right.
i think i'm coming back to Gamma scum, though. :<

I am asking if you townread nero, elbirn
And scumread varsoon and dunk before each flipped? (Creature I know already and I know you townread koki)

Because if you got all 6 right it kinda points to you being red scum.
But the point with my townread is that since you are a townread I am going to ignore this if the answer is yes and chalk it up to good reads and/or coincidence because there are far more scummier people than you.

[Kiana Kaslana]

Bujaber: i'm not sure what you're saying regarding my reads and your townread on me.
i think i've been doing well this game when it comes to identifying town. Creature's meta is obvious and easy. :> i did think ActionDan had a good chance of flipping scum, and i want to believe my Klazam and Kiana reads are right.
i think i'm coming back to Gamma scum, though. :<

I am asking if you townread nero, elbirn
And scumread varsoon and dunk before each flipped? (Creature I know already and I know you townread koki)

Because if you got all 6 right it kinda points to you being red scum.
But the point with my townread is that since you are a townread I am going to ignore this if the answer is yes and chalk it up to good reads and/or coincidence because there are far more scummier people than you.

This game is multiball not singleball. Having "too-good" reads isn't exactly applicable in this type of game. Also explains why my reads are so off this game.

[BuJaber]

It does when varsoon is the only orange to flip so far and he kinda made it obvious to scum that he was scum. I missed it at the time myself but from red scum pov it's not a big stretch to say they would have caught it.

[Chara]

it's in my ISO, but i imagine you're asking because it's long: Elbirn i had as vague town, Nero i'd been back and forth on but thought town by the end of day 2.
i had Varsoon as town, and Dunker as likely red scum.

i'm a a god. (except Varsoon and maybe also Gamma. good townreads then. haha.)

[BuJaber]

@mod - hypothetically if a JOAT had 1-shot commute could they use it on themselves?

[Joey_]

@mod - hypothetically if a JOAT had 1-shot commute could they use it on themselves?

Commute is always applied on self

[BuJaber]

Yeah I felt varsoon played quite well I kinda feel sorry for him.

Pedit - of course. Sorry was thinking of hider. It's been a long day.


Okay can we drop the gamma is scum thing now?

The biggest reason to lynch gamma as I understand it is the soft guilty which means the people voting him think:

1. He missed elbirn's crumb despite it being allegedly obvious to half the players at least.
2. He does not or chose not to use his commute
3. He then claims watcher
4. Only to recant it and say JOAT
5. Then he claims one of his abilities is commute despite it being an obvious scum move for someone going to be targeted by elbirn

So the scum motivation for all of this is what ? WIFOM against this particular argument only?

[Kiana Kaslana]

1. He missed elbirn's crumb despite it being allegedly obvious to half the players at least.

It was very not obvious. We only know about it after Elbirn flipped and we know his role.

[Joey_]

Also Bujaber, as always, if you want to argue that Gamma can be scum hypothetically, you cannot use what he claims as true lilke "If he was scum he wouldve used his commuter shot instead" this is only true on the premise that gamma told the truth.. which is irrelevant when you are trying to talk about a hypothetical scenario wheres hes mefias (aka lying)

[BuJaber]

I mean my track record this game has been terrible.
Except for townreading nero after arguing with him for so long (probably best thing I've done this game since it gave me that townread at least) I have gotten everything wrong so far. Even dunk I was right but for the wrong reason. I still don't see the scum motivation for sheeping koki in page 1 lol. I'm glad koki didn't flip town before him because I would have townread dunk so damn hard.

But a) that doesn't really make me doubt myself it just makes me work harder. B) It doesn't mean I can't be right about Gamma.


Pedit - of course but I'm saying that him lying is only making his story look worse as scum.

[Joey_]

of course but I'm saying that him lying is only making his story look worse as scum.

thats the premise of good wifom, why would he make a hard to believe claim as scum ?

Just saying, i still think flipping gamma is better for the game moving forward

[Shaziro]

Ok, I think I support a massclaim now tbh, but I'll go ahead and claim anyhow because NKA may just be useful here.

I'm Japan, hence my first post in this game starting with a haiku, and I have Bushido. I'm a vig. I shot Dunker, and I shot Kokichi.

[Joey_]

Good job fucking twat

Also this mean that scum only got 1 nk

[Chara]

so there's no guilty.
why'd you shoot Kokichi?

it also means there's a missing kill from one of the scumteams. or they overlapped on Kokichi or Nero, but considering both of their positions i don't know how likely it is.

[BuJaber]

As much as I disagree it wouldn't be the end of the world if town!gamma dies. Though of course if we continue to lose 2 townies per night we will arrive at mylo quickly.

Me debating against it is good for learning even if it fails to accomplish anything this game.

[Joey_]

So orange is also confirmed to have shot either elbirn or a protective. It make sens for varsoon to shoot elbirn after the buddying and suspicion

[Chara]

i mean, if he's town he's not that much of a twat. he got Dunker.

i have to go look because Gamma nearly got lynched on a guilty that Shaziro would know isn't valid.