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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:41 pm

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In post 448, Iconeum wrote:No. I'm not townreading Buj, but there is little to gain in continuing down that track.

If you think this is an OMGUS reaction from me, that means you disagree with what I wrote on him? Do you disagree with the GL lovebird scumread as well?
I think there's potential there but I want to know why you'd prefer Love to Chris?
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:51 pm

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Christopher has a few decent last posts. My scumread on Love feels better.
I actually feel a lot more confident with my vote on Love then when it was on christopher.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:49 pm

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Ok let's do it.

VOTE: Love
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:45 am

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Vote Count

Lovebird - 3 - BuJaber, Iconeum, CheekyTeeky
Raskolnikov - 2 - ZZZX, Not_Mafia
Not_Mafia - 2 christopher, Raskolnikov
BuJaber - 1 - GreenLiquid

Not Voting - Lovebird

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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:30 am

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To post within a few hours.
Implosion: I see ZZZX was
redacted
. For shame, people. For shame.
The Bulge: ZZZX is ZZZX
Get to know a ZZZX: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=58733
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:25 am

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TBH Idk why love unvotes me there when just holding that vote for just a day or so pretty much forces a claim which I think is better for scum wincon fmpov.
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:51 am

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In post 365, BuJaber wrote:Strongest by post is cheeky.
Strongest by gut / some poe is ZZ.
Wait what

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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:25 pm

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In post 362, BuJaber wrote:If it comes down to either zz or chris I feel it'd be a coin flip honestly. I highly doubt both are scum. So best case scenario it's 50%. That's assuming that not both scum are 'active' players in the game. Also if love does flip scum it also makes it unlikely that either Zz or chris are scum because a lurker scum strategy usuallu requires a partner that is active. Unless they both just give up.
What I dont get is, given your pools almost everyone not in the love/me/gl pool are mostly lurkers except for ico (and I guess MM/cheeky slot but you top tr cheeky) so I'd generally think if love is scum then it just isnt the 1 lurk 1 active.

I'm not understanding when you say ZZ could be scum but poe suggests against it (and earlier in neither pool as null) tbh. Are you saying that just everyone else (apart from cheeky?) is so scummy that you don't think it's likely?
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:41 pm

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You still haven't explained why you scum read me.
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:48 pm

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In post 443, GreenLiquid wrote:
In post 406, Raskolnikov wrote:VOTE: Cheeky
feeling either with n_m or, if I'm wrong on n_m scum who knows n_m is town tbh
A white knight play from Cheeky is kind of plausible, but this vote switch seems way too convenient for the situation. It doesn't divest Raskie from his read on Not_Mafia, it lets him counter-vote the person pushing him the hardest, and I see potential for it to be contrived: if he's scum, I would bet that the bit after the comma was added when he realized that voting Cheeky on associative grounds instead of staying on the stronger read of the two was inconsistent, and he needed something else to cover for the switch.
The thing is I've been floating this before, though I can understand if this looks like hedging for N_M flip to say that regardless of n_m align cheeky is sus (the truth is closer to me thinking the read there is just somewhat stronger than I think is realistic in general for the ISO).
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:08 pm

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Damn that was pretty towny Rask. I don't know if that's outside of your scum range? The admitting to looking hedgy that is.
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:18 pm

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In post 458, CheekyTeeky wrote:You still haven't explained why you scum read me.
Actually you're slightly towntelling a bit now, previously your focus was almost unnatural though seemingly now you've been kind of engaging me and reaching out a bit to engage others.

My problem with you is mostly I don't think your justification for townreading N_M is warranted given the ISO (I'd never be comfortable putting someone medium or strong on just weakish things like preflips and having a gut feeling on wagon vca) and the latter that the push/committing to your view so too hard () which idk anymore. And maybe a smidgeon bit of feeling that I'm actually somewhat kind of a desirable lynch target for scum here if I'm even partially right with my gameviews.
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:34 pm

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In post 451, Iconeum wrote:Christopher has a few decent last posts.
Can you be more specific with this btw? I don't know how you make this judgment they're kinda mixed for me.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:40 pm

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Taking interest in other peoples N_M reads does makes sense if hes town with that read, and I'm kinda of biased towards that read too, but at the same time his reads themselves and judgments are too simple(?) for me to be confident they're real/depth-thats-hard-to-be-faked tbh.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:48 pm

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@Ico are you seeing love here as significantly different from in one-shot?
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:26 pm

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In post 462, Raskolnikov wrote:
In post 451, Iconeum wrote:Christopher has a few decent last posts.
Can you be more specific with this btw? I don't know how you make this judgment they're kinda mixed for me.
is a town post.
has no scum motivation, scum would easily be able to follow the rask wagon.
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:31 pm

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In post 464, Raskolnikov wrote:@Ico are you seeing love here as significantly different from in one-shot?
I never check meta. Maybe I should, but I'm not a big fan of it.

Answering the question, I'd say Love is actually playing the same kind of early game as one shot (I mislynched Love there).
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:51 pm

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Real quick:

Rask/cheeky - townread
Gl, chris, Zz - null
Icon - scumlean
NM, Love - scumread

But as far as the lynch order would go it'd be something like this
Love > GL > NM > Icon
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:46 pm

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Um why would you lynch a null read before a scumread?
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:26 pm

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In post 446, Iconeum wrote:Everyone should read GL's , and then reread it again. It's just a great post.
Lovebird is so obviously scum it's ridiculous.

Read especially the part about the read evolution from town to an L-1 vote.
Before that, I also called out his vote in , his vote in . Naked L-1 vote on NM. This was after being prodded. He also failed to mention that was an L-1 vote.

VOTE: lovebird


If you agree with this and agree with GL's read on love, you should be voting lovebird.
This lynch is so much better then Rask's or NM's...
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:28 pm

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I voted NM after coming back from getting prodded because nobody cared about lynching my scumread and the game wasn't moving, needed a lynch.

You focusing just on my vote ignoring the others is just omgus for what I'm saying about you.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:29 pm

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Shading me for not mentioning L1 when just before on the page someone bolded it was L2.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:31 pm

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What about my evolution doesn't make sense? What cheeky was saying made sense, enough to vote rask and see the response.
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:32 pm

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Want to know what cheekys reads are now.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:34 pm

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People suddenly just fine with my lynch as deadline approaches.

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