Mini Normal 1996: Floral Mafia [Endgame!]

Tchill13 · Post Post #2650 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:01 am

In post 2642, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2640, Tchill13 wrote:Ausuka are you OK with risking the game to lynch me/flavor/kisme
No. Not like my opinion matters.

Why not? You're saying that 2 scum bussed.

I'm fine risking the game on the logic 2 scum didn't bus.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2651 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:01 am

In post 2641, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2634, Tchill13 wrote:2 scum.... Bussed the strong pr.... When Luca was that close to being lynched...

This is what I meant when I said Luca flipping gives us great information. We know a town wagon was closed to being lynched. You're telling me that instead of lynching town TWO SCUM BUSSED IMPLOSION WHEN THEY DIDNT THE HAVE TO?

What a joke.
Yes that's exactly what I'm telling you! Bussing is always a choice. If people think they can take the towncred they go for it. Implo was never lasting until endgame anyway. He was clearly not really engaged with the game all that much.

Imagine this:
Implo: ugh. I can't get into this game and I look really scummy. hey guys, can you bus me for the towncred please?
Gamma: sure, sounds good to me
Havo: Lol ok yeah.

Like what makes that so unlikely? Or so many other scenarios?

LOL I'm goignt o take this as your locked stance, and I'm completely ready to bust this myth

ISO · Post Post #2652 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:02 am

In post 2648, Havo wrote:
In post 2643, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2639, Havo wrote:
In post 2634, Tchill13 wrote:2 scum.... Bussed the strong pr.... When Luca was that close to being lynched...

This is what I meant when I said Luca flipping gives us great information. We know a town wagon was closed to being lynched. You're telling me that instead of lynching town TWO SCUM BUSSED IMPLOSION WHEN THEY DIDNT THE HAVE TO?

What a joke.
Yeah, see this is too powerful to get past.

Scum would be stupid here, really stupid to bus their PR when they could have easily lynched a townie instead.
Yeah, so stupid. Even though it's probably going to win them the game, clearly the towncred just wasn't worth lynching a ONE-SHOT STRONGMAN.
This is not the path of least resistance.

I don't get the point you're trying to make. If scum don't bus implo they might get a town lynch d1 but they can get caught later.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2653 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:02 am

Creature reads?

ISO · Post Post #2654 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:03 am

In post 2651, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2641, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2634, Tchill13 wrote:2 scum.... Bussed the strong pr.... When Luca was that close to being lynched...

This is what I meant when I said Luca flipping gives us great information. We know a town wagon was closed to being lynched. You're telling me that instead of lynching town TWO SCUM BUSSED IMPLOSION WHEN THEY DIDNT THE HAVE TO?

What a joke.
Yes that's exactly what I'm telling you! Bussing is always a choice. If people think they can take the towncred they go for it. Implo was never lasting until endgame anyway. He was clearly not really engaged with the game all that much.

Imagine this:
Implo: ugh. I can't get into this game and I look really scummy. hey guys, can you bus me for the towncred please?
Gamma: sure, sounds good to me
Havo: Lol ok yeah.

Like what makes that so unlikely? Or so many other scenarios?
LOL I'm goignt o take this as your locked stance, and I'm completely ready to bust this myth

Oh yeah the MYTH that scum bus. What a MYTH.

Tchill13 · Post Post #2655 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:03 am

In post 2644, Creature wrote:I want this game to end soon tbh.

In post 2643, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2639, Havo wrote:
In post 2634, Tchill13 wrote:2 scum.... Bussed the strong pr.... When Luca was that close to being lynched...

This is what I meant when I said Luca flipping gives us great information. We know a town wagon was closed to being lynched. You're telling me that instead of lynching town TWO SCUM BUSSED IMPLOSION WHEN THEY DIDNT THE HAVE TO?

What a joke.
Yeah, see this is too powerful to get past.

Scum would be stupid here, really stupid to bus their PR when they could have easily lynched a townie instead.
Yeah, so stupid. Even though it's probably going to win them the game, clearly the towncred just wasn't worth lynching a ONE-SHOT STRONGMAN.

Then WHO'S SCUM THAT BUSSED? WHO IS SCUM ON THE IMPLOSION WAGON? You think 2 scum bussed? Why are you voting me? Who's scum with havo?

Creature · Post Post #2656 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:03 am

In post 2653, Gamma Emerald wrote:Creature reads?

I intend to vote Flavor when I get the VC.

Tchill13 · Post Post #2657 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:04 am

In post 2641, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2634, Tchill13 wrote:2 scum.... Bussed the strong pr.... When Luca was that close to being lynched...

This is what I meant when I said Luca flipping gives us great information. We know a town wagon was closed to being lynched. You're telling me that instead of lynching town TWO SCUM BUSSED IMPLOSION WHEN THEY DIDNT THE HAVE TO?

What a joke.
Yes that's exactly what I'm telling you! Bussing is always a choice. If people think they can take the towncred they go for it. Implo was never lasting until endgame anyway. He was clearly not really engaged with the game all that much.

Imagine this:
Implo: ugh. I can't get into this game and I look really scummy. hey guys, can you bus me for the towncred please?
Gamma: sure, sounds good to me
Havo: Lol ok yeah.

Like what makes that so unlikely? Or so many other scenarios?

THEN WHY ARE YOU VOTING ME IF THAT'S WHAT YOU THINK HAPPENED?

ISO · Post Post #2658 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:04 am

In post 2650, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2642, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2640, Tchill13 wrote:Ausuka are you OK with risking the game to lynch me/flavor/kisme
No. Not like my opinion matters.
Why not? You're saying that 2 scum bussed.

I'm fine risking the game on the logic 2 scum didn't bus.

Yeah and this is exactly what makes bussing a good play.

Remind me: if scum busses anyway, why don't they both take the towncred, instead of just one of them? If you're okay with the idea of one scum bussing it naturally follows that scum could have both been bussing.

Tchill13 · Post Post #2659 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:05 am

Ausuka is all over the place and intentionally leaving the door open for other scenarios so he doesn't have to lock into anything.

Tchill13 · Post Post #2660 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:06 am

In post 2658, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2650, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2642, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2640, Tchill13 wrote:Ausuka are you OK with risking the game to lynch me/flavor/kisme
No. Not like my opinion matters.
Why not? You're saying that 2 scum bussed.

I'm fine risking the game on the logic 2 scum didn't bus.
Yeah and this is exactly what makes bussing a good play.

Remind me: if scum busses anyway, why don't they both take the towncred, instead of just one of them? If you're okay with the idea of one scum bussing it naturally follows that scum could have both been bussing.

THEY COULD HAVE LYNCHED TOWN AND SAVED THEMSELVES A DAY PHASE.

ISO · Post Post #2661 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:06 am

In post 2657, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2641, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2634, Tchill13 wrote:2 scum.... Bussed the strong pr.... When Luca was that close to being lynched...

This is what I meant when I said Luca flipping gives us great information. We know a town wagon was closed to being lynched. You're telling me that instead of lynching town TWO SCUM BUSSED IMPLOSION WHEN THEY DIDNT THE HAVE TO?

What a joke.
Yes that's exactly what I'm telling you! Bussing is always a choice. If people think they can take the towncred they go for it. Implo was never lasting until endgame anyway. He was clearly not really engaged with the game all that much.

Imagine this:
Implo: ugh. I can't get into this game and I look really scummy. hey guys, can you bus me for the towncred please?
Gamma: sure, sounds good to me
Havo: Lol ok yeah.

Like what makes that so unlikely? Or so many other scenarios?
THEN WHY ARE YOU VOTING ME IF THAT'S WHAT YOU THINK HAPPENED?

Because I don't know what happened! All I know is that we could definitely lose the game from clearing the Implo wagon and that is definitely something I am very, very uncomfortable with.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2662 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:07 am

In post 2654, Ausuka wrote:Imagine this:
Implo: ugh. I can't get into this game and I look really scummy. hey guys, can you bus me for the towncred please?
Gamma: sure, sounds good to me
Havo: Lol ok yeah.

When are you saying this happened again?

ISO · Post Post #2663 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:08 am

In post 2660, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2658, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2650, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2642, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2640, Tchill13 wrote:Ausuka are you OK with risking the game to lynch me/flavor/kisme
No. Not like my opinion matters.
Why not? You're saying that 2 scum bussed.

I'm fine risking the game on the logic 2 scum didn't bus.
Yeah and this is exactly what makes bussing a good play.

Remind me: if scum busses anyway, why don't they both take the towncred, instead of just one of them? If you're okay with the idea of one scum bussing it naturally follows that scum could have both been bussing.

THEY COULD HAVE LYNCHED TOWN AND SAVED THEMSELVES A DAY PHASE.

Yeah, of course they could have! But if they think that it's worth bussing so they're less likely to all get lynched later, they go for it. Like the argument you're making here could apply to literally any bus. If you're actually saying scum never bus I don't know what to tell you.

ISO · Post Post #2664 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:08 am

In post 2662, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2654, Ausuka wrote:Imagine this:
Implo: ugh. I can't get into this game and I look really scummy. hey guys, can you bus me for the towncred please?
Gamma: sure, sounds good to me
Havo: Lol ok yeah.
When are you saying this happened again?

some point d1

ISO · Post Post #2665 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:09 am

In post 2629, Ausuka wrote:also I'm still not a he

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2666 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:11 am

In post 2664, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2662, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2654, Ausuka wrote:Imagine this:
Implo: ugh. I can't get into this game and I look really scummy. hey guys, can you bus me for the towncred please?
Gamma: sure, sounds good to me
Havo: Lol ok yeah.
When are you saying this happened again?
some point d1

I'm not going to be satisfied unless you give a concrete answer. Depending where you say it was you might get a slight reprieve. Or you could get fucked up. As I said, depnds on where you say it is.

Tchill13 · Post Post #2667 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:11 am

Ausuka has no clear direction to figure out what's hppening .

I do. I've also backed up why it makes sense. My whole game has been based on this and I've been consistent with that.

Ausuka hasn't figured out anything and has no plan to.

"Oh two scum bussed blah blah" PROVE THEY DID. TELL ME WHO'S SCUM ON IMPLOSION.

The game is clogged up due to the inability to move past "did scum bus, and how many scum bussed?"

Well I'm telling you rn we can figure that out through my plans. Yes it takes us to lylo. Yes it gives us more night actions to work with EXCLUSIVELY ON THE IMPLOSION WAGON if we agree to lynch EVERYONE, EVEN ME on the Luca wagon.

ISO · Post Post #2668 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:12 am

In post 2666, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2664, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2662, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2654, Ausuka wrote:Imagine this:
Implo: ugh. I can't get into this game and I look really scummy. hey guys, can you bus me for the towncred please?
Gamma: sure, sounds good to me
Havo: Lol ok yeah.
When are you saying this happened again?
some point d1
I'm not going to be satisfied unless you give a concrete answer. Depending where you say it was you might get a slight reprieve. Or you could get fucked up. As I said, depnds on where you say it is.

If you want me to lock in my reads I'm afraid that isn't happening.

Tchill13 · Post Post #2669 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:13 am

I give context to why scum wouldn't bus in this particular situation.

Ausuka:"you're saying scum never bus?"

ISO · Post Post #2670 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:13 am

In post 2667, Tchill13 wrote: "Oh two scum bussed blah blah" PROVE THEY DID. TELL ME WHO'S SCUM ON IMPLOSION.

Easy. Havo/Gamma/Creature. This should have been evident from my reads, which are still consistent to the readspost I posted.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2671 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:14 am

Then I'm not unvoting you. I'm not letting you get away with hedged reads

buddy

.
Also "not locking in reads" "team is Gamma+Havo" GTFOH

Tchill13 · Post Post #2672 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:14 am

In post 2666, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2664, Ausuka wrote:
In post 2662, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2654, Ausuka wrote:Imagine this:
Implo: ugh. I can't get into this game and I look really scummy. hey guys, can you bus me for the towncred please?
Gamma: sure, sounds good to me
Havo: Lol ok yeah.
When are you saying this happened again?
some point d1
I'm not going to be satisfied unless you give a concrete answer. Depending where you say it was you might get a slight reprieve. Or you could get fucked up. As I said, depnds on where you say it is.

AUSUKA GIVES NO CONCRETE ANSWERS.

Havo · Post Post #2673 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:15 am

@Ausuka,

Everyone here knows scum will bus. No one really believes they would do it in that situation.

It’s WIFOM, the scum team would be making the game harder for themselves just to push that one angle.
Why make the game harder than it needs to be? Yes town cred is good, but there’s other ways to get town cred.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2674 (ISO) » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:15 am

dw he just confessed