In post 169, BuJaber wrote:I get that people might disagree with it as a strategy but it's natural for me.
I am not locking myself to these people as only possible scum. What these lists do for me is make me split up the group of players into smaller categories.
When new posts or information come in I reevaluate.
But as long as I believe that the original reason for the grouping is still valid I stick to that grouping until new evidence comes that reinforces or invalidates it.
For example for the GL, Rask, love pool I strongly believe I am right for thinking that discussion was intentionally encouraged by scum. So until they flip or I can confidently townread all three that pool will remain as it is.
bu wanting to lynch gl before ico consistent with this afaik
the "there must be 1 scum because the interaction felt that way" is stupid, but the "there is at most 1" and trying to lynch scum to clear remainders via assoc makes some sense. though obviously if hes scum its no commitment either as Id assume in that case its all 3t and hed be w/ other pool
Bujaber != christopher
Lovebird != Greenliquid
Bujaber != iconeum
Bujaber != cheeky (??? 354?)
Iconeum != Love ???
Love != Cheeky ???
with bu w/ love seem pretty unlikely unless votepark into VLA is d1 hardbus, and i didnt examine bu w/ GL (1v1s harder to tell if because its traditional distancing) but i dont think GL is scum as individual
I think if bus scum hes scum its almost exclusively N_M or ZZZX given assoc which admittedly are the worst ones to have open and given independently think mostly likely 1 scum in there so. welp ultimately kinda useless
this is why I wanted to lynch in N_M though because thinkscum but even if wrong clearing assocations can get into gamesolve
In post 272, BuJaber wrote:Can we lynch either IB or Mom? scum have nobody to go after so they're focusing on me. They know they can't go after someone else. I had an early wagon on me and nobody is townreading me strongly so I'm a good scum target.
Frigging hilarious this. I get called out for not scumhunting in the only game where I am clearly the one doing most of the work. You guys realize post count is not an indication of how much a player is contributing right?
It kinda makes sense to soft-defend lurkers if you are scumpartners with one or more of them.
SO I'm pretty confident there are 2 scum in {IB, Mom, NM, LUV, Sing, acryon, (and paradox though less likely since I'm TR'ing him at the moment)}
If there is a 3rd scum that would be pretty difficult to figure out but if that were the case I'd have to reconsider all my townreads.
Though a 3rd scum probably isn't likely because it seems risky to defend a lurking scum partner if you have another one also in the game. Unless of course the game is as easy as it seems and both IB and mom are scum, that leaves one of the lurkers as their final partner. At least that theory would explain why they haven't gone after each other or disagreed.
IB agree that mom is confusing, and that asking questions could be scummy but they low-key defend mom early on.
Can one of you just bus the other one so it's easier?
In post 69, BuJaber wrote:His play is textbook LAMIST but whether or not that means he's scum I'm still unsure.
I have played only once with eth0s and he was scum there and if these first few posts are any indication there's a noticeable difference.
But see this meta argument is conflicting with my gut read which is that he's scum.
What makes me sure eth0s and love aren't a team? Well 'sure' is obviously strong but I can't imagine the two scum would attract attention and fake accuse each other in such a small game so early on.
Especially a game like this where long-term strategy is rewarded (because of the possibility of multiple kills all at once later on).
But your little fight with hop here makes me thing it's TvS.
I want to know who the S is.
I'm betting it's hop.
In post 1061, BuJaber wrote:
Exactly why the Deway wagon makes no sense.
Any of the lurkers can be scum or not. They haven't provided much in terms of reads. Rem is starting to now, but with a pretty big list of TR's like that even if we believe she's scum and lynch her where does that leave us? Her list would not provide us with much to go on. If she is scum it definitely contains a mix of townies and scum and we'll stilll have to figure out which is which.
Sure we might catch scum in deway, but then we still have the buj/moz/hop/flubb/monkey/seph block to deal with.
I think a lot of associatives can be drawn about these players. The who game has been centered around Monkey's scumreads to a big extent. Plus since noise can be interpretted as people purposefully ignoring these controversial cases (because they're scum, or because they're just confused town who don't care who gets lynched if it ain't them) so a lynch of one of these controversial cases might even help decipher the less forthcoming players.
Pick your top scumread from these and vote. I'm sticking with flubb.
grouplogic NAI (did see bu focus very early interactions->assoc in scumgames too)
meta/gut read not amiss, few strong reads across the board not amiss
this grouplogic is going pretty hard even for usual but given he doublesdown on it when literally everyone scumreads/hates idk if scum incentive there
progression on me starting from earlygame i thought was ok and gl(even omgusy)->love seems believable?
idk maybe even no lynch and hope for a save might be okay this pos rofl
if I am right about N_M here btw ftr i'm quoting this game every single time I say I think we should lynch lurker/trollscum d1 and people dont let me because "its lazy we have to lynch in people who gave content and give free passes otherwise"
