Large Normal 211: Scientific Mafia

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, profii’s town.

He’s my mason buddy.

[Pine]

I get to be Town leader tomorrow Pine.

Cuz I'm prolly ded tonight? Ya be my guest.

@Flavor:



PE: lolno

[Flavor Leaf]

Not actually, but I’m soul reading him as town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Either way it works out for me.

Even if I were scum, Pine playing that way would let me coast hella hard.

But as town, I can just see how others react to our TvT

[Pine]

Yeah....actual Town wouldn't know this to be TvT. That's not quite a scumslip, but it's definitely not a Townish thing to say. At all.

I'm done with the genital measuring contest for now. I'mma go shoot some moar dudez on the Playstation.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma- how can you kinda see my reads as political? I stated a town read on Firebringer, and stated I no longer think Pine was scum.

I don’t really have any scum reads right now, so I’m just kind of waiting until I see something I find scummy.

I’m paranoid of LUV.

Fire townreads you
I feel like your townread on Pine feels a little strangely timed tbh and I kinda feel like you relied on others (read: me) to badger 2iam out of his read, like I did at least 75% of that
also you keep paranoia SRing people on the hood which doesn't help you

[Nosferatu]

Yeah....actual Town wouldn't know this to be TvT. That's not quite a scumslip, but it's definitely not a Townish thing to say. At all.

[Gamma Emerald]

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

the fuck does this even mean here

SNIP

tl;dr pls

[Firebringer]

I don’t townread flavor.
But I don’t scumread him either

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah....actual Town wouldn't know this to be TvT. That's not quite a scumslip, but it's definitely not a Townish thing to say. At all.

I'm done with the genital measuring contest for now. I'mma go shoot some moar dudez on the Playstation.

Why? This happens all the time. I get pushed by a lot of “optimal play” players and a lot of the times they end up being town. I town read you. I know I am town. How am I supposed to see it?

I see us as both town. That means I should think it’s TvT.

Should I have a reason to scum read you here? What reasons are those? If you think I shouldn’t see this as TvT, what are the reasons you should be scum read by me?

That’s not quite a scum slip, but it’s definitely not a townish thing to say. At all.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Gamma- how can you kinda see my reads as political? I stated a town read on Firebringer, and stated I no longer think Pine was scum.

I don’t really have any scum reads right now, so I’m just kind of waiting until I see something I find scummy.

I’m paranoid of LUV.

Fire townreads you
I feel like your townread on Pine feels a little strangely timed tbh and I kinda feel like you relied on others (read: me) to badger 2iam out of his read, like I did at least 75% of that
also you keep paranoia SRing people on the hood which doesn't help you

Yes. Because Two’s reasonings for tunneling me every game are always poor.

I just call em like I see em.

I’m not paranoia’ing you or Inferno. Solid town on both of you. Why shouldn’t I go through everyone? Should I have just blindly let them coast? I feel like the paranoia I have is a good thing.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, I have equal reasons to play the political game both town and scum.

When I’m town, I don’t have my scum buddies to back me up, so when I get pressured I’m in more danger of getting lynched when I have pressure than when I’m scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m not paranoia’ing you or Inferno. Solid town on both of you. Why shouldn’t I go through everyone? Should I have just blindly let them coast? I feel like the paranoia I have is a good thing.

Excuse me you said it yourself in the hood Inferno was a paranoia scumread?

[profii]

oo a me wagon.

either UCV is scum and someone on the wagon is part of a chainsaw
or UCV is town and the whole wagon is town, maybe a late joiner is scum

right o.

[Pine]

oo a me wagon.

either UCV is scum and someone on the wagon is part of a chainsaw
or UCV is town and the whole wagon is town, maybe a late joiner is scum

right o.

False dichotomy. Truth: I think you are scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

oo a me wagon.

either UCV is scum and someone on the wagon is part of a chainsaw
or UCV is town and the whole wagon is town, maybe a late joiner is scum

right o.

False dichotomy. Truth: I think you are scum.

This comes off a little forced, instead of saying "you are scum", thus implying confidence in the read, he says "I think you are scum", which sounds a bit stilted, like scum trying to suggest they have a town thought process.

[Pine]

Yeah, except Profii was impugning possible motivations for the wagon, suggesting a false dichotomy. 1) Chainsaw defense of UCV, which is ridiculous or 2) UCV is Town and something about a late joiner is scum this one didn't actually make any damn sense. I was proffering a 3) No, I actually just think you're scum, and your vote is irrelevant.

Come on, Gamma. It was a turn of phrase, not an insight.

[Gamma Emerald]

ok then

[profii]

Yeah, except Profii was impugning possible motivations for the wagon, suggesting a false dichotomy. 1) Chainsaw defense of UCV, which is ridiculous or 2) UCV is Town and something about a late joiner is scum this one didn't actually make any damn sense. I was proffering a 3) No, I actually just think you're scum, and your vote is irrelevant.

Come on, Gamma. It was a turn of phrase, not an insight.

fundamentally UCV has been active on site and not posted. this is bad for the game.

doesn't quite have as much impetus if I just say that so I voted.

negatively, that's turned the last page or so into a discussion around me and UCV is still yet to post.

I think that a chainsaw defense is admittedly unlikely but if you say nothing, nothing happens, so no harm in seeing how Fire reacted to that.
I have no idea how UCV will flip with no posts, but scum will know I am not scum, so they know this wagon is a mislynch, I guess they might sneak on once this fairly unsubstantial case gets momentum but idk.

This whole episode isn't really helping tbh so I'm just going to ignore and i'll find somewhere else to put my vote shortly.

I'll finish with I'd still like UCV to play :@

[Pine]

Bad for game =! scummy. Almost 30 pages is daunting to most people. It takes me about an hour to read and fully digest 20ish pages. Lurking D1 is a shit reason. Given much better reasons to vote people on the table, it's an attempt to look productive without actually doing anything.

[northsidegal]

I'll be around in a bit to catch up and give some more detailed thoughts

[Lil Uzi Vert]

profii, have you ever pushed somoene who has confirmed but not posted before? I’m failing to understand the paranoia.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You just said we aren’t policy lynching right now in regards to TIAM.

What makes UCV not a policy lynch?

[profii]

profii, have you ever pushed somoene who has confirmed but not posted before? I’m failing to understand the paranoia.

never seen it happen before... is there some kind of random role that would explain this?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No. And the reason I asked because I can sympathize if you’ve recently loss to a scum team containing members that lurked their way to victory. This doesn’t seem to be the case.

Speaking of roles, why can’t UCV be a PR? Why can’t their be a masonary or another neighborhood?