Turn of Camn ~FIN~

[Mathdino]

like it's hard to argue that lynching town-mastina is +town EV

Except, legit, I genuinely think it is. While I did make that post more or less as a parody, the point behind it? Dead serious.

I think that lynching me before endgame is +town EV.

I don't

like

eating mislynches (especially since by my SWA algorithm that's an automatic -2), but when it's part of gamebreaking I can bite the bullet. And I legit think that lynching me at some point DOES accomplish that. I'm not sure about when, specifically, lynching me would be the right play. But lynching me, I genuinely feel helps the town. It's just a question of when, and what I can do to maximize said help.

I don't have the specifics planned out. But I more or less mapped out in my mind...I can't find the words for it, but the beginning of a strategy whereby lynching me helps to expose the scum.

what the fuck

the last time i argued for policy lynching you before lylo you went balls to the wallpost shitting on my play and arguing you'll never get lynched no matter what

are you purposefully just saying something completely different every game re: self meta

[Parama]

Parama your reads suck ass which is depressing

sorry they're bad for your scumteam, yeah

[Ginngie]

I don't get why you'd say something so asinine when you've seen me post bigger shit than the one this game?

[Parama]

pine you and i both know i'd be trying way harder if i was maf

only scum parama would say this because everyone knows town parama hates meta

Lol this is like the towniest thing I've seen in the thread so far, so towny I wonder if it's scummy



@PArama

Can you link a scum game to me?

no

[mastina]

Plus I like Mastina
Kinda

I don't understand this. Since when? I always got the impression it was the opposite. (Especially given that because I am a horrible human being I often trash-talk you.)

[Pine]

I love that people are buying my "setup disclosure" while at the same time bitching about people listening to me ^^

[Pine]

Parama your reads suck ass which is depressing

sorry they're bad for your scumteam, yeah

Srsly bro, BB's right

[Mulch]

Ginnige, you feel off

Your narrow focus with Mastina is weird

You are tonally different

You are arguing things that don't matter

I don't see you scumhunting

I don't see you acting as "idgaf" as you do as town

As town you love snarky comments, I don't see that bite rn as town

That's why I'm scumreading you

It felt weird that you had a big ass post so early

It dosen't seem like the type of player you are as town

You sort of go through, vote people as you feel like it, give reasons only when necesary

Not give paragraphs of perfect reasoning to one person

You feel like you care how you are perceived

That's why I'm scumreading you

[Ginngie]

mastina

ignore everything

talk to me cuz i know that works.


Did anything Mulch say about his scumread on me make sense.

Also given 298 I have reason to put faith in town you, so hi.

[Pine]

Hey guys.

Gin and Mastina are both Town.

Discuss.

[mastina]

also having just finished a game with town mastina who tunneled me for a whole day, blew up the thread (allowing scum to hide), and actively ignored anything i had to say
while butting into the conversations i was having in order to try to sort people (which hurt my ability to sort people)
i disagree that mastina is less destructive than derpy hooves

What you conveniently ignore is that I correctly scumread 3/4 scum and hard-pushed for all of their lynches--acryon since D1 and both Almost50 and Not_Mafia on D2 until my death.

It's part of the Push Hard mentality.

Yes I was wrong on you...but I reevaluated, reconsidered, and came out with a better understanding before, which I used to advocate for the most pro-town options possible. (E.g. no lynching when the options were between a No Lynch or two town lynches.)

[DrippingGoofball]

Vote: Kiara

100000000% scum.

SCUM POST DETECTED

[Pine]

Vote: Kiara

100000000% scum.

SCUM POST DETECTED

DGB

How is your life?

[Mulch]

Vote: Kiara

100000000% scum.

SCUM POST DETECTED

Hey someone from 2005 that uses one line posts



I like this player already so much!!!

[Ginngie]

Hey guys.

Gin and Mastina are both Town.

Discuss.

I mean once mastina and I stop getting at each other's throats then yes there will be discussing

[mastina]

The conditional is that Pine picks me, and NOT you.

Except there's a draft mechanic.
Say Pine picks you.
Then Alisae picks me. (And Alisae, unlike camn, was likely to do exactly that.)
OOPS.

It also works the other way, too.
Pine picks me, Alisae can pick you.

Pine never gets both of us as scum. That does not mean he doesn't try.

[Ginngie]

Then Alisae picks me. (And Alisae, unlike camn, was likely to do exactly that.)

You say this

while also insulting Pine's intelligence by thinking he wouldn't know that would happen.

[mastina]

the last time i argued for policy lynching you before lylo you went balls to the wallpost shitting on my play and arguing you'll never get lynched no matter what

Yes. Which for that game, was accurate.

Different games, different circumstances, different roles. This is self-explanatory. Arguing for a policy-lynch of me that game was bad. Arguing for a lynch of me this game is, situationally, conditionally good. I haven't worked out the exact conditions, but I stand by it.

[Parama]

alisae doesn't know me at all so i probably wouldn't be one of her picks for town at any point
but pine's a total dunce so he didn't recruit me anyways

[mastina]

Your narrow focus with Mastina is weird

This is actually the towniest thing about her. But, at least one thing you listed in that post is a huge portion of my Ginngie scumread, yes. And I am waiting to see Ginngie provide me with the answer I am looking for; I have yet to see it.

[Ginngie]

Ginnige, you feel off

Your narrow focus with Mastina is weird

You are tonally different

You are arguing things that don't matter

I don't see you scumhunting

I don't see you acting as "idgaf" as you do as town

As town you love snarky comments, I don't see that bite rn as town

That's why I'm scumreading you

It felt weird that you had a big ass post so early

It dosen't seem like the type of player you are as town

You sort of go through, vote people as you feel like it, give reasons only when necesary

Not give paragraphs of perfect reasoning to one person

You feel like you care how you are perceived

That's why I'm scumreading you

This can be all summed up as every time mastina and I get into a game together because I honestly don't care about anyone else until mastina is solved.

mainly as a survival tactic.

Once mastina says I'm town,

I have fire, Elli, and mastina telling everyone I'm town and once that happens, anyone that tries to push me will get shit on

Right now I'm just establishing my town bloc

[mastina]

Did anything Mulch say about his scumread on me make sense.

Explicitly so, yes. At least one thing did.

[northsidegal]

mastina, why exactly does it benefit town for you to get lynched assuming you're town?

[Ginngie]

Did anything Mulch say about his scumread on me make sense.

Explicitly so, yes. At least one thing did.

I'll take it

[Mathdino]

hoooo boy i have some spicy things to spam this game with in a week or so as well