Turn of Camn ~FIN~

[Ginngie]

Yo ginngie, Kuuhaku scum or not?

I'm a little miffed by the claim tbh but whatever role =! alignment

firebringer's claim?

also, you kind of just popped in and then popped out. nothing to say?

That’s an interesting conclusion

"interesting" how?

I can see it tbh, the constant dodging of questions always sets me off as a scumread.

Playing fortnite

and your claim

Fire always claim vigi so i don't really care about it.

[Firebringer]

Fire always claim vigi so i don't really care about it.

She makes a good point too

[Kuuhaku]

I truly believe Alisae would give me Vig based on that alone

~Shiro

[Ginngie]

btw I dont think Fire/Mulch are scum together

[BBmolla]

BBmolla seems to be a weak player that would be unlikely to be picked by Pine in a draft, for similar reasons to Aristophanes. I could be wrong.

and do you get this sense from this game only or for meta from elsewhere?

From this game.

I'm actually very easy to read and thus I think I'm strong in that sense tbh.

I think my scumplay is better than my townplay because then I don't have to be honest. When I'm honest people seem to get upset with me.

[BBmolla]

Off to bed, I'll post more whenever Reck decides to catch up.

[northsidegal]

thought about it a bit. i wonder how much firebringer's seeming unrealization of the non-randomness of roles is real, given these:

Spoiler:

reading larges is dangerous for my health
still surprised that people did that

can't we just play pretending that guilty child is on our ignore list

this setup should be townsided with combination of
1. choose your side meta (props to LLD for reminding everyone of this beautiful thing)
2. innocent child is supposed to be the counterbalance to guilty child but it's extremely +town EV while pine is 0 EV
3. NSG is basically an innocent child as well,

along with others depending on what roles alisae assigned them personally

We can try but lol

There is a reason for Pines title

We have no mod confirmation the drafting was done as pine said btw unless I missed a post

It’s actually n setup info

This setup is confirmed to have 4 wolves and 13 villagers.
> Pine is confirmed to be the Guilty Child Impotent Treestump. So he's like, the bad guy.
> camn is confirmed to be the Innocent Child N0 Modified Masonizer Treestump. So she's like, the good guy
>

ROLES AND ALIGNMENT ARE NOT RANDOM.

> Before the game, Pine was given his choice of scum roles as well as one request to the setup in the town. From there I balanced the setup against Pine.
> After the playerlist was set, Pine and I drafted players using an EVEN spread, Pine went first, then I picked and so on.
> Whille the draft is happening, camn will send me a list of 5 people on it. From those, her mason will be chosen out of the townies through RNG.
> Once the mason is picked,

I will assign roles as I see fit.

> After all confirmations are sent in, Pine will have 24 hours to assign his roles. He can talk in wolfchat while he does this.
> There is atleast one person with a Vanilla Townie Role PM. This will be seen below.
> Both Pine and camn have strict consequences if they fail to post.
> Pine's baby is due on May 17th. When the baby arrives, I'm pausing the game for 1 week for obvious reasons (I'll keep all private topics open). Keep this in mind please

It actually doesn’t confirm draft went as pine said actually lol

It says they go back and forth not how many picks they got each time lol

[Ginngie]

hi, north, quick question

what is your time zone

This is actually a sorting question

[northsidegal]

cst

yes, i am playing mafia at 5 am

[northsidegal]

if it means anything to anyone i would literally never care about a mafia game at 5 am unless i was town in it

[Ginngie]

if it means anything to anyone i would literally never care about a mafia game at 5 am unless i was town in it

tbh

you stole the words out of my mouth

I was thinking, who the fuck stays up this late in the night on a weekend to just try and solve some shit when everyone went to bed.

[northsidegal]

that's a towny sort

[camn]

erm, why?

Because it is equally good a hard vanilla-town Gambit as it is a trueclaim strategy.

And in a game like this...is there a cop? Really? And who plays follow the cop anymore anyway?

[Ginngie]

erm, why?

Because it is equally good a hard vanilla-town Gambit as it is a trueclaim strategy.

And in a game like this...is there a cop? Really? And who plays follow the cop anymore anyway?

That's what separates the new guard from the old guard

[Ginngie]

So like

you're saying that fire knows details about the setup and he talks about it a lot in the thread

but at the same time you're seeing him act ignorant of other details?

[northsidegal]

erm, why?

Because it is equally good a hard vanilla-town Gambit as it is a trueclaim strategy.

And in a game like this...is there a cop? Really? And who plays follow the cop anymore anyway?

well, i can confirm that i'm not vanilla-town gambiting.

So like

you're saying that fire knows details about the setup and he talks about it a lot in the thread

but at the same time you're seeing him act ignorant of other details?

yeah, there were some posts that he responded to / seemingly read which should have informed roles not being randomly assigned and yet he still seemed ignorant. it might just be paranoia on my part, but it could have been faked to make the claim more believable.

[Ginngie]

If I'm honest as I see it's already been discussed I don't mind giving my opinion

wait this is confusing

Basically where my head is at, is that Fire loves to claim Vig just about every game, so him claiming it is nothing out of the ordinary for me.

However, what I think you're getting at is how he didn't know, apparently, that he would have gotten the role non-randomly

[camn]

well, i can confirm that i'm not vanilla-town gambiting

Yeah but that is what you WOULD say if you WERE.

[northsidegal]

what would be the point of claiming miller as vanilla town? isn't a miller fakeclaim really only a scum thing?

[northsidegal]

happy birthday ellibereth!!!

[camn]

Well...there are a lot of angles.

The classic is just to call off any town investigative....since you would be a negative result, and probably a waste of a shot if your towngame is such that you don't need the Innocent result.

Alternatively, a Gambit to discourage a miller fakeclaim by scum if youre ACTUALLY a town cop.

The list goes on.

[northsidegal]

Alternatively, a Gambit to discourage a miller fakeclaim by scum if youre ACTUALLY a town cop.

huh, never considered this one but it makes sense.

[camn]

I play a devious and multilayered game.

Are you swearing on your life that you are a real life miller...with the inevitable implication that there is a (maybe) sane cop in this game?

[camn]

Just your game life....not actual life

[camn]

Fine. I'm going to bed now.

For everyone who didn't know- I live in Asia. So my clock is just wrong. Try not to post 20 pages before I wake up!