In post 677, BuJaber wrote:You knew NM was scum.
You pushed for rask lynch.
You derailed lovebird's lynch.
And now you vote me lol.
But, NM was town and cheeky defended him. Don't understand what you're saying here. How do you both criticize cheeky for defending town and pushing town?
In post 695, Korina wrote:Quick surfacd thought: Lovebird is probably scum. Her posts feel similar to Mirco 785, (short, unhelpful posts) minus the lurking.
Will actually ISO dive later.
Do you know my town game at all to compare? Otherwise this is meaningless. Also, really hate people calling me unhelpful or useless.
In post 674, BuJaber wrote:If NM had answered my questions with anything other than 'maybe' I probably would have unvoted. I tried to squeeze something out of him. He's too hard to sort with his playstyle and my gut told me scum this game. The fact that cheeky was so sure gives me pause. You know what let's shoot cheely first. I think GL was too inactive. He can't be partners with another lurker.
Why do you feel the need to justify yourself for the lynch here? Before anyone said anything about it?
Also if anybody got a guilty .. claim please. We can win this but we have to catch all scum today.
Cop is only on even nights.
Complete NAI this post. The first question feels forced.
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi
In post 606, ZZZX wrote:ima save my entire catchup post (should be decent) till next day cus I wana re read a few people. lets see how things go
In post 607, ZZZX wrote:or if the day isnt done by "literally" tomorrow I will post it.
So the day didn't actually end until 2 days later, there was time for you to post. But whatever.
In post 668, ZZZX wrote:Finally getting my stuff sorted and I see NM being scum huh
VOTE: NM
Yes this is an omgus hummer. But u r scum..
Anyhow next game day big post I suppose. I promised it today but I'm barely half done writing it.
Such a stronk vote/hammer right here.
Where's your case? You were almost caught op on the 31st of March. On the 3rd of April you said you could post it 1 day later.
Yet on April 5th you're 'barely halfway done writing it'? Just lol.
I'm just gonna call it right here: Lovebird/zzzx scumteam. Please remember this post for if/when I die at night.
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi
Who has played with GL before? I want to know if he is likely to tunnel this hard as town. If so I am definiteky voting love. But to give credit where credit is due I've only seen him play as scum so his point he made to korina applies to me here. It looks remarkably similar to what he is doing here. Rask flipping town and the way they are playing gurantees one of those is scum. Since GL doesn't post enough I have to rely on meta somewhat.
Love I wasn't defending myself I was blaming NM.
Cheeky I just hope you're having fun.
I feel like ZZ should have replaced regardless of alignment. I've never played with him before and I can't read him based on no posts. His reason for absence is a valid one and I don't think people lie about shit like that. It would be immoral to anyway. So unfortunately his lurking seems NAI.
Sure, activity =!= allignment.
But he had the time to post that he's catching up, he had the time to post he was ready to post his 'big catchup post' in 1 rl day, then he had time to see NM as scum and hammer him, then he said he was actually just barely halfway through catching up but still hammering.
That's not being inactive. That's scumplay.
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi
BTW the scum game I am talking about korina was love's scum partner.
And now korina has talked about the same game.
One of them is definitely scum. If korina is town and agrees with me that his own partner in that game is playing the same way in this game this is quite strong meta evidence against love.
If korina is scum then he is trying to kill town love.
It doesn't make sense to do it if they were both scum especially given love's reaction.
If for some reason Korina is trying to pull off a spectacular bussing tactic then at lylo you lynch him as a policy just to avoid this (Unless one of the other two players are guiltied obviously).
Because if love is scum I can't imagine korina being kept alive by scum so he would have to be the scum.
100% chance of finding scum between korina/love.
99% chance of finding the 2nd scum between GL/cheeky/Ico. There is a chance zz is scum but that seems far too low now that I thought about this some more.
In a game this small where a player like me (usually I'm a low-average poster in games) is one of the top posters there is no way 3 townies out of a pool of 5 townies all find me scummy.
Like this isn't my first game on MS I know for a fact my playstyle/meta is not completely different than everyone on the site. People can and have townread me correctly.
Hmmm.. just read love's ISO. Inconclusive. I thought it'd make me more sure she was scum but no I feel just as unsure. There's a chance lynching korina first is better. But definitely one of them is scum. (Both if like I said korina is attempting a weird gambit)
I never do this cold meta stuff but I think I have to...
Love can you link me a few recent town games?
Also can you tell me why you are town here in your own words?
Yea, I'm town, I'm agreeing Love's meta feels similar to Forest Fire.
I'm not trying to do a bussing strat here, lol. If I was, I'd have instantly called out Love of being scum instead of saying "oh hey, let me prodge because I'm at work, I'm reading thread", and then "I quickly skimmed Love's ISO, she may be scum based on forest fire blitz".
I'm still reading thread rn, but based on the quick ISO skim, Love seems scummy.
I'm also finding it pretty strange that GL is so convinced NM is scum but he's voting Bu.
GL can you please explain how Bu is a better wagon than NM for your vote to be on him prior to your intent to hammer?
I'm not convinced that Not_Mafia is scum, but it seems more likely than him being town, and the problem is that he apparently has no interest engaging with anyone or doing anything useful, so there's no way that read will change except through:
1. An associative case later in the game, and I don't see that happening without him flipping; or
2. A cop investigation. He would actually be a great target for a N2 cop investigation, but this assumes cop survives to D3 and doesn't have a different target in mind.
I prefer the BuJaber wagon because unlike Not_Mafia, he is actually engaging with my questions, and (perhaps this is why Not_Mafia's is the better strategy?) his responses give me decreasing confidence in his being town. I feel that my read on him has "settled" in a way that my read on Not_Mafia simply can't due to his unwillingness to engage.
@CheekyTeeky: what is your read on BuJaber? I think his is the only slot you didn't really give any clear comment on during your catch-up posts.
You're calling NM as possible scum then saying you prefer Buj lynch? Is it just me that it doesn't make sense to?
In post 585, CheekyTeeky wrote:Fine let's end it. You all better have this game sorted tomorrow. Like people actually need to read around the NM wagon and Love wagon.
VOTE: love HAMMERTIME MWAHAHA
What am I reading? This honestly seems scummy to me.
In post 668, ZZZX wrote:Finally getting my stuff sorted and I see NM being scum huh
VOTE: NM
Yes this is an omgus hummer. But u r scum..
Anyhow next game day big post I suppose. I promised it today but I'm barely half done writing it.
Ok. Ok.
Ok, thoughts:
GL and Ico seem townie.
Buj seems something.
Cheeky I don't like
Love is also something.
I explained multiple times in day 1 why I thought NM was scummy. I know you just replaced in but bringing up already asked and answered stuff is unhelpful and annoying.
Me telling rask to sheep me as scum was my ego. I believed that if NM flipped I will be able to solve the game. Also I couldn't say this while he was alive but through his posts and responses to my questions I eliminated the possibility of him being a PR. So when I said 70% chance he flips scum the 30% was he flips VT which was worth the risk.
For the record yes I don't think you are bussing. I think only one of you/love is scum. I just like to think about hypothetical lylo situations. It helps me.
