Large Normal 211: Scientific Mafia

[Ausuka]

I reserve the right to unvote after my catchup but I probably won't.

[Theta Alpine]

i had no time this weekend
and i am vainly hoping that gets better somehow

Flavor leaf is extremely towny

Trust me, I know his scum game

And when one of us are scum, we usually get in a 1v1 whereas when we’re both town we argue about which one of our pushes is the correct one.

this is true
and i believe mulch and flavor are town now

i need to read the game now though
cause i have no clue what is even going on now

also i thought i unvoted
or was that in the post i rewrote right before posting
either way UNVOTE:

[Flavor Leaf]

Noooo don’t vote inferno

[Egg]

Won't be able to catch up today or tomorrow. 16 hour work days.

[Inferno390]

Frick off guys. About half of the players in this game can tell you that my meta is literally tunnely town. The fact that Beef would even find that weird has me pinging like crazy.

[Ausuka]

what, and you can't fake a tunnel as scum?

[Mulch]

Idfk

[Inferno390]

Yeah, I'd rather not.

@MOD, I am replacing out

Didn't know you were in this game when I joined.

so people were pushing Quick as scum for this? Really?

You're not really this thick, right?
The wagon formed based arond the fact that Quick said in neighborhood chat that he was going to PL Leaf based his bad playstyle (Leaf is also in the neighborhood.) The post in the neighborhood came out over 12 hours before this post. So he knew well in advance of making this post that Leaf was in the game. Major inconsitency, which is why there was a serious move to lynch the slot.
This has all been explained multiple times. I'm not sure how you missed tit. Honestly, this looks suspiciously like straw manning the wagon to set up for lynching someone on it. Based on callng me out for tunneling, I'm guessing the target is me.

[Inferno390]

what, and you can't fake a tunnel as scum?

So you're tellling me that on my first scum game ever, I'm good enough to replicate my towngame accurately enough that people notice that it's tunnely?
And this proves nothing. You've literally just turned your argument into NAI. If tunnely town is my meta and I can fake it this well as scum, that means I can do it as either alignment, which means you can get nothing from it in terms of reading me.

[profii]

I think infernos tunnels are just NAI

[Mulch]

what, and you can't fake a tunnel as scum?

So you're tellling me that on my first scum game ever, I'm good enough to replicate my towngame accurately enough that people notice that it's tunnely?
And this proves nothing. You've literally just turned your argument into NAI. If tunnely town is my meta and I can fake it this well as scum, that means I can do it as either alignment, which means you can get nothing from it in terms of reading me.

Towny af

UNVOTE:

[Ausuka]

Yeah, I'd rather not.

@MOD, I am replacing out

Didn't know you were in this game when I joined.

so people were pushing Quick as scum for this? Really?

You're not really this thick, right?

oh so I've been in this game for one day and you're already personally attacking me. beautiful.

The wagon formed based arond the fact that Quick said in neighborhood chat that he was going to PL Leaf based his bad playstyle (Leaf is also in the neighborhood.) The post in the neighborhood came out over 12 hours before this post. So he knew well in advance of making this post that Leaf was in the game.

Yeah, and he said he didn't know FL was in the game before he replaced in. I don't see the inconsistency here at all. If he found out that FL is in this game after he joined the game/replaced in, and before he made that post, there is absolute consistency.

[Ausuka]

what, and you can't fake a tunnel as scum?

So you're tellling me that on my first scum game ever, I'm good enough to replicate my towngame accurately enough that people notice that it's tunnely?

Why are you acting like tunnels are something that scum cannot do? It's like the easiest thing. All you have to do is pick one player and scumread them constantly.

And this proves nothing. You've literally just turned your argument into NAI. If tunnely town is my meta and I can fake it this well as scum, that means I can do it as either alignment, which means you can get nothing from it in terms of reading me.

No that's not what I'm saying at all. You're tunnely as either alignment, sure. What I'm saying is that I think you're scum, who is doing tunnels to try and look like tunnely town.

[Ausuka]

what, and you can't fake a tunnel as scum?

So you're tellling me that on my first scum game ever, I'm good enough to replicate my towngame accurately enough that people notice that it's tunnely?
And this proves nothing. You've literally just turned your argument into NAI. If tunnely town is my meta and I can fake it this well as scum, that means I can do it as either alignment, which means you can get nothing from it in terms of reading me.

Towny af

UNVOTE:

yeah, you're gonna have to walk me through this one, because not only do I think him trying to conftown himself by meta in this way is scummy, but I'm reading the game and from what I've read so far Inferno is very scummy earlygame, especially with his reaction to the dayvig which I think is super fake. It's possible he towned it up between then and now but eh, I doubt it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, and he said he didn't know FL was in the game before he replaced in. I don't see the inconsistency here at all. If he found out that FL is in this game after he joined the game/replaced in, and before he made that post, there is absolute consistency.

and yet he said he wanted to policy flavor before he had that realization

[Mulch]

what, and you can't fake a tunnel as scum?

So you're tellling me that on my first scum game ever, I'm good enough to replicate my towngame accurately enough that people notice that it's tunnely?
And this proves nothing. You've literally just turned your argument into NAI. If tunnely town is my meta and I can fake it this well as scum, that means I can do it as either alignment, which means you can get nothing from it in terms of reading me.

Towny af

UNVOTE:

yeah, you're gonna have to walk me through this one, because not only do I think him trying to conftown himself by meta in this way is scummy, but I'm reading the game and from what I've read so far Inferno is very scummy earlygame, especially with his reaction to the dayvig which I think is super fake. It's possible he towned it up between then and now but eh, I doubt it.

The self meta is towny unless he’s some scum god

[Ausuka]

Yeah, and he said he didn't know FL was in the game before he replaced in. I don't see the inconsistency here at all. If he found out that FL is in this game after he joined the game/replaced in, and before he made that post, there is absolute consistency.

and yet he said he wanted to policy flavor before he had that realization

I don't get your point. What I think is that Quick joined the game not knowing FL was in it, realised FL was in it, tried to deal with him/policy lynch him/whatever, and then he got fed up and just decided to replace out. All Quick said in that post was that he didn't realise FL was in the game when he replaced in and I don't really think you can disprove that at all. Unless you're saying that he said explicitly in the neighbourhood "Let's policy lynch FL" and then said afterwards "I only just realised FL was in this game."

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah no
a little bit before voting flavor leaf quick commented on the hood he was considering pushing a pl on flavor
and then 6 hours later quick replaces out
I don't see any issues in my interpretation of the timeline

[Flavor Leaf]

I agree with everyone on this page.

I don’t think scum hasn’t posted on this page.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Ausuka - I agree with what you’re pushing, but I feel there are other reasons the slot is scum.

It’s not what happened, it’s how it happened, if that makes sense. I think the people pushing it are a little confused as to what they think is scummy also.

I feel he realized that I was in the game before he said it, he made the case. It’s the fact he made the scum case and just wanted a policy, but his it behind a scum case, and then replaced out when he realized he wasn’t going to beat me in a 1v1.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh, Theta and Profii are on this page too.

I don’t see anything scummy about Theta really. Not like strong town read there, but I’d definitely say Theta’s been townier than scummy.

Profii I keep going back and forth on. I don’t find them scummy, but the things I keep seeing as townie are sort of NAI. I think the he earlier wagon there turned me off a bit.

I’m solid with where my vote is, unless we decide to go Beef.

[Ausuka]

Right now I don't really need to be sold on quick!scum. I don't believe he replaced out because of wincon things- that mindset makes no sense anyway, because if you replace out, you can't win. The reason I think quick was scum is because when I played with LQ, he had a very distinctive, obvtown way of playing involving lots of self-meta, and it was clear to me and many other people in that game that he was town. He also said his scum game was very bad. Fast forward to this game, and when I ISO him now he's not showing any sign of this behaviour, and a lot of people call him out as scummy, which is consistent with his towngame being obvious town and his scumgame being below average. That's why I would vote quick if it came down to it. However, I don't think I'm anywhere near the time where Quick replaces in on my catchup, so for a good read on him you'll have to wait until then.

pedit: I like both profii and theta for town quite a bit.

[Mulch]

Wanna cook an egg?

[Gamma Emerald]

I agree with everyone on this page.

I don’t think scum hasn’t posted on this page.

are you out of your mind, legit there's no way both me and Ausuka can be right

[Flubbernugget]

Yeah, I'd rather not.

@MOD, I am replacing out

Didn't know you were in this game when I joined.

so people were pushing Quick as scum for this? Really?

I'm glad I saw this quoted. I seem to have been misremembering the wording.