In post 692, BuJaber wrote:@GL - town wouldn't have known NM was town. And you are talking about me in every post. Do you not have any other good reads?
It's hard to stop talking about you when you keep talking to me. "Do you not have any other good reads?" is lazy shading especially considering I just provided reads in my last post.
In post 684, Iconeum wrote:
Rask is a strange kill. Points toward lovebird imo.
In post 706, Iconeum wrote:
You knew I'd be pushing you this day, but it's too obvious to kill me so you took out one who'd follow me on you. Rask defending you?
Raskie didn't have any strong reads and he was sort of all over the place at the end of the day, so while I agree with the read on Love overall, I'm pinged by the fact that you've been leaning so hard on this night-kill-based logic right out out of the gate, which is IMO easily one of the weakest reasons to scum read Love. This gives me the feeling of scum who planned what narrative they wanted to spin around the kill but is coming in a bit too hot.
Ico: who is your third-biggest scum read after Love and ZZZX?
Super pinged by this. Korina's catch-up post is mostly rhetorical questions in response to low-hanging fruit. This could be scum misjudging how townish Korina's post is supposed to seem.
In post 721, Korina wrote:
You're calling NM as possible scum then saying you prefer Buj lynch? Is it just me that it doesn't make sense to?
Yep. I scum read BuJaber more than Not_Mafia, and anyways I thought BuJaber was the better lynch because Not_Mafia's flip gave little associative info other than on Cheeky.
Korina: Why do you think CheekyTeeky is scummy? What does "something" mean w/r/t BuJaber and Love?
In post 692, BuJaber wrote:@GL - town wouldn't have known NM was town. And you are talking about me in every post. Do you not have any other good reads?
It's hard to stop talking about you when you keep talking to me. "Do you not have any other good reads?" is lazy shading especially considering I just provided reads in my last post.
In post 684, Iconeum wrote:
Rask is a strange kill. Points toward lovebird imo.
In post 706, Iconeum wrote:
You knew I'd be pushing you this day, but it's too obvious to kill me so you took out one who'd follow me on you. Rask defending you?
Raskie didn't have any strong reads and he was sort of all over the place at the end of the day, so while I agree with the read on Love overall, I'm pinged by the fact that you've been leaning so hard on this night-kill-based logic right out out of the gate, which is IMO easily one of the weakest reasons to scum read Love. This gives me the feeling of scum who planned what narrative they wanted to spin around the kill but is coming in a bit too hot.
Ico: who is your third-biggest scum read after Love and ZZZX?
Exactly. Rask was all over the place. It's a strange kill, which is why I went back and reread him. At the end of the day, he was content with voting Lovebird.
After Love and zzzx, it's between Buj and Cheeky.
Rawr!
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#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
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Super pinged by this. Korina's catch-up post is mostly rhetorical questions in response to low-hanging fruit. This could be scum misjudging how townish Korina's post is supposed to seem.
I don't agree with this. The post is a lot of stuf that I happen to agree with/what I am thinking/what I have been posting.
The quotes mentioned in the post are the right pings, and are good posts to question.
It was a good first catchup post and I read it as town.
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
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I explained multiple times in day 1 why I thought NM was scummy. I know you just replaced in but bringing up already asked and answered stuff is unhelpful and annoying.
Me telling rask to sheep me as scum was my ego. I believed that if NM flipped I will be able to solve the game. Also I couldn't say this while he was alive but through his posts and responses to my questions I eliminated the possibility of him being a PR. So when I said 70% chance he flips scum the 30% was he flips VT which was worth the risk.
For the record yes I don't think you are bussing. I think only one of you/love is scum. I just like to think about hypothetical lylo situations. It helps me.
I'm updating my reads and lynch bracket.
Love/ZZZZX/Cheeky. Promoting Buj to an actual townlean. If Love flips scum, I consider Buj as conftown.
Buj, D1 Love was our middle ground. It seems like we can push this together. Are you comfortable with that?
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ZZZZX, you NEED to reply to my 708. You also need to explain your hammer on NM D1.
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi
If love flips scum even GL would have to townread me so actually yes this makes a lot of sense why this lynch hasn't gone through.
If she were town she'd have been lynched already; especially now that korina is pushing for her lynch. Means scum gets a mislynch and makes both korina and I look bad. Love definitely makes sense.
Zz is a bad lynch today because I don't think there's any chance both korina/love are town. So since one of them has to be scum let's find out who and kill them then determine if zz works as their partner.
So korina replaced in and backed my meta read on love without any prompting for me.
So unless you think the scumteam is literally me and korina; then korina is either backing up that meta read to get town love mislynched, OR he is town..
If love flips town it incriminates korina.
That is one side of it.
The other side is korina replaced chris.
Cheeky has pushed and scumread chris pretty much all game. That makes her unlikely to be scum with korina. So if love flips town cheeky is probably town because she scum would have no motivation to not want town love dead. And so if cheeky is town chris slot is probably scum based on cheeky's read. Even I who initially townread chris did question that read as the game progressed.
So basically it boils down to this
There are several people scumreading chris slot (cheeky, you, possibly love and I think I had him as null before korina replaced)
There are several people scumreading love (me, korina, possibly you?)
Since I am not scum so I can't be korina's partner, and korina and love can't both be scum, and korina and cheeky can't both be scum by association, that means at least 2 townies are scumreading each of these slots.
This is getting convuluted and I'm not sure I'm making much sense but I'm pretty sure we've reached a situation which mathematically guarantees one scum in love/korina.
I think it's most likely love. Korina would only be scum if love flips town.
In post 737, Korina wrote:Buj, my metaread on Love is independent of yours. I quickly skimmed Lovebird n1 after replacing in because I thought the lack of posts was odd.
When I made that post, I saw you had posted that too.
I still don’t like Love’s semi-fluff ISO.
That's what I mean. So it's more believable. From everyone else's POV one of us at least has to be town and genuinenly scumreading love. And you having the same read independently makes me feel more confident about it. But even if you were scum trying to get us to mislynch love you'll be caught anyway.
Can we lynch Korina first out of love/Korina? Although I don't agree with a lot of BuJaber's logic, his intent feels a lot townier so I'm not lynching him today.
