Turn of Camn ~FIN~

[xRECKONERx]

mastina, all due respect

who the fuck cares

post that in GD

[implosion]

if it means anything ellibereth, i got incredibly hyped seeing that countdown.

Pretty sure this is the towniest post in the game so far.

Keychain's iso so far is actually pretty meh. But not scummy.

I need to remember why I'm townreading firebringer.

[Mulch]

Implosion

You are like me, but have the ability to write what it’s my head

[Mulch]

mastina, all due respect

who the fuck cares

post that in GD

HELL no those are my favorite posts in this game

[implosion]

I actually missed gif's ego post earlier and yeah this game is kind of surreal between that and the mastina video and the mastina dream posts. I don't mind it tbqh.

[Mulch]

Spoiler: ego

LmfaO

[Alisae]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 13

• mastina
  ------------ 4 ( BBmolla(31), Brian Skies(127), Firebringer(161), xRECKONERx(45) )
  L- 5
  
  
  Keychain
  ----------- 3 ( Madoka and Homura(125), Ginngie(139), DrippingGoofball(29) )
  L- 6
  
  
  MariaR
  ------------- 3 ( Lady Lambdadelta(33), MariaR(29), Implosion(44) )
  L- 6
  
  
  Brian Skies
  -------- 2 ( mastina(92), Mulch(119) )
  L- 7
  
  
  BBmolla
  ------------ 1 ( Northsidegal(77) )
  L- 8
  
  
  Ginngie
  ------------ 1 ( Keychain(81) )
  L- 8
  
  
  shos
  --------------- 0 ( Pine(68) )
  L- 9
  
  
  Lady Lamdadelta
  ---- 0 ( No One )
  L- 9
  
  
  Implosion
  ---------- 0 ( No One )
  L- 9
  
  
  Centipede Syndrome
  - 0 ( No One )
  L- 9
  
  
  Madoka and Homura
  -- 0 ( No One )
  L- 9
  
  
  DrippingGoofball
  --- 0 ( No One )
  L- 9
  
  
  xRECKONERx
  --------- 0 ( No One )
  L- 9
  
  
  Aristophanes
  ------- 0 ( No One )
  L- 9
  
  
  Firebringer
  -------- 0 ( No One )
  L- 9
  
  
  Mulch
  -------------- 0 ( No One )
  L- 9
  
  
  northsidegal
  ------- 0 ( No One )
  L- 9
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  --------- 4 ( camn(37) , shos(1), Aristophanes(12), Centipede Syndrome(56) )

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to Lynch
Deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-21 19:20:58)

[Pine]

I go to bed early ONE TIME because I'm feeling sick (koff koff ded) and WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED.

y u fuckers replace out?

[camn]

I say we follow Mulch's instinct for the day 1 lynch.
For once.
His intincts are good.

As kingmaker, I nominate

MULCH

.

[Madoka and Homura]

But I don't believe in monarchy.

[Aristophanes]

But I don't believe in monarchy.

If anything it's a constitutional monarchy which I can totally support!

Plus, if Camn says so, I'm in! =D

[Mulch]

UNVOTE:

Yaaay I get to decide the lynch

[Madoka and Homura]

that has to be like the 20th best madoka homura pic.
you guys can do better.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Keychain

[Firebringer]

if it means anything ellibereth, i got incredibly hyped seeing that countdown.

Pretty sure this is the towniest post in the game so far.

Keychain's iso so far is actually pretty meh. But not scummy.

I need to remember why I'm townreading firebringer.

I don’t remember u tr me

[BBmolla]

I say we follow Mulch's instinct for the day 1 lynch.
For once.
His intincts are good.

As kingmaker, I nominate

MULCH

.

Naaah

He’s probably town but his reads blow

[Mulch]

I say we follow Mulch's instinct for the day 1 lynch.
For once.
His intincts are good.

As kingmaker, I nominate

MULCH

.

Naaah

He’s probably town but his reads blow

It is quite possible they are bad this game as I’m wagoning random people for fun

However, they generally are >>>>>> above average

Just I’m never listened to XD

[Mulch]

I still don’t know who I want to push

I’m gonna think about it

[Centipede Syndrome]

T - 5.5 hours

[Madoka and Homura]

[Madoka and Homura]

T - 5.5 hours

You better meet our expectations

[camn]

He’s probably town but his reads blow

I have seen his day one instincts be shockingly accurate in the past. I'd like to give it a chance.

[BBmolla]

He’s probably town but his reads blow

I have seen his day one instincts be shockingly accurate in the past. I'd like to give it a chance.

Maybe. We will see.

Like I said he’s probably town at least.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

He’s probably town but his reads blow

I have seen his day one instincts be shockingly accurate in the past. I'd like to give it a chance.

This move always ends in a town lynch in this game, I cannot believe you don't understand why forcing a kingmaker into a non-kingmaker enforced game will not work.

So here, confirmed town whatever, let me spell it the fuck out for you.

You will divide this town into two camps, with a few different factions of people in each

Camp Who wants to follow the kingmaker plan, filled with:
The king
The people who agree with the king
people who want to support the confirmed town treestump and remain unified
and scum presence.

and

Camp who do not want to follow the Kingmaker plan, filled with:
The person the king selected
people who think that person is town/the king's reads are stupid
people who think the kingmaker plan is stupid and will not support it unequivically/think their own reads are better
and scum presence.

So, let's examine some scenarios.

First, the one where you pick a scum kingmaker, that ALWAYS ends in a town lynch because the king will select a townie and then the counter wagon will form from a group of diverse people with diverse opinions, and the common denominator is something the rest of the scum can dictate by saying "I will not lynch X today" so you will have dueling town wagons.

Next, the kingmaker is town, but he picks a townie. We have the same problem. Scum will support this, putting pressure on this townie, and then the other scum will support the counter wagon to ensure it is on town as well.

You might be saying at this point: "But LLD, I think you over estimate scum's ability to manipulate and control the lynch selection in the non-king section".

To that I say "informed minority times large lynch pool equals easy compromise mislynch" but let's even assume you're right. For the above two scenarios, the scum don't even NEED to support it, thye can just have the dueling wagons go on, have the scum be run up by the non-king side and then when it comes close to deadline, deadline lynch the king's choice and say "I just decided to follow along". Hedge, demotivate, crush. Simple.

So let's get back on track with the FINAL scenario. Your king actually chooses a scum target. Then the scum mobilize, some scum will support and bus, but they will do the same thing they did otherwise to create a townie counter wagon, and then support that.

So essentially, by forcing the town into two camps like this you create a rift that can be exploited by the scum, and you need both:

1) the king to be right
2) the townies in the non-king camp to be sufficiently unified on a lynch choice that they can't be as easily manuevered off of it AND for that choice to be scum.

So you have 2 scum wagons and the dueling won't result in a town lynch.

Which basically never happens.

If you go with this plan, today will be a town lynch, you'll shrug your shoulders and accept none of the blame.

But it will be entirely your fault.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh and bonus bad? Because the generation of these wagons will effectively be artificial, the ability for people to read into decisions made and reads given and even consider wagon analytics and voting patterns will be skewed to fuck.