Mini Normal 2002: The Thaw OVERRRRRRRRR

[Cheetory6]

Other than him being either town or scum.

well he surely has to be one of them, no?

[i honestly dont think my opinion on him really matters right now. theres basically nothing behind it.]

[StefanB]

this is also one of those times that it would be great if stefan could be scum and flavor could be town so i can get to be incredibly indignant at the high and mighty attitude postgame.
i guess i at least get to do that postgame with the read on me if flavor is town.

I think now you have got a pretty good chance with the flavor read.
I am very happy that we didn't lynch him.
Stefan is scum needs a different game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Other than him being either town or scum.

well he surely has to be one of them, no?

[i honestly dont think my opinion on him really matters right now. theres basically nothing behind it.]

And that in itself is an opinion on him. Answer works enough.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm pretty sure I'm good on my implosion vote. Haven't liked his reaction to my points one bit. Prism makes me feel weird. Hoopla is a good second ATM. Need to read cult and saud more

Are you okay with the fact that Hoopla is Implosion's second pick for a lynch target too?

That’s incredibly scummy of Implosion moreso than Hiraki.


I’m getting to the point where the Hoopla wagon and the Implosion wagon need to come together on one of them.

Implosion staying Hoopla is his number two, yet doing nothing to go further with that is classic “bus a buddy, vote a townie)

[Cheetory6]

VOTE: hoopla
im willing to do this specifically so that the one scum in implosion/myself tenet cannot be collapsed into just me being scum.

sorry partner.
if i had it my way i wouldnt lynch the funner person in the game even if i think youre maybe more likely scum than not.

[Cheetory6]

oh while im making barely useful posts,
cultofathena needs to stop lurking or else too!

[StefanB]

I hope we get some cultpost soon and a replacement for Erica.

[StefanB]

And some content post from Saudade and a bit more from Prism.

[Saudade]

Can't believe Flavor isnt getting lynched today, sigh

I am obvtown

You are many things but claiming to be obvtown just highlights your insecurity about your own (scum) role

[Saudade]

I'm sorry I couldnt be as active, sundays to tuesedays are my peak study days...

[GreyICE]

The fact that Hoopla isn’t getting more attention shows Stefan is town. If Stefan were scum, this Hoopla wagon would be taking off more due to scum buddies, but it shows that scum is okay with Stefan being lynched.

Since you are scum, this means less than nothing.

[GreyICE]

I am having fun watching FlavorLeaf gather a counterwagon to Stefan on Hoopla, at the same time he insists Stefan is town because there aren't any scum pushing a counterwagon on Hoopla.

Cheeky doesn't even BEGIN to cover how obvious this is.

[Flavor Leaf]

Can't believe Flavor isnt getting lynched today, sigh

I am obvtown

You are many things but claiming to be obvtown just highlights your insecurity about your own (scum) role

I could have a cop guilty on me and still not be insecure if I was scum.

But I’m just town and obv town

[Flavor Leaf]

The fact that Hoopla isn’t getting more attention shows Stefan is town. If Stefan were scum, this Hoopla wagon would be taking off more due to scum buddies, but it shows that scum is okay with Stefan being lynched.

Since you are scum, this means less than nothing.

Well, you just are playing incredibly suboptimal, so your reads don’t really mean much.

Thoughts on Cheetory coming over on to Hoopla?

[GreyICE]

You know Flavor, you keep pushing that bandwagon. "Suboptimally". A way to buddy me, while discrediting me. My reads are excellent, and I have a long history of pushing wagons through to the end.

What you have done here, Flavor, is made it obvious to more people than me what your alignment is when Stefan flips scum. That's your actual mistake. See, I know you're scumbuddies, but you can just shoot me - I'm used to it, I get shot N1 or N2 as often as Magna does. But here, you've tied yourself to Stefan in an overwhelmingly obvious way, by trying to lead the counterwagon to save him (while insisting that the counterwagon doesn't exist!). That was "suboptimal".

[StefanB]

You know Flavor, you keep pushing that bandwagon. "Suboptimally". A way to buddy me, while discrediting me. My reads are excellent, and I have a long history of pushing wagons through to the end.

What you have done here, Flavor, is made it obvious to more people than me what your alignment is when Stefan flips scum. That's your actual mistake. See, I know you're scumbuddies, but you can just shoot me - I'm used to it, I get shot N1 or N2 as often as Magna does. But here, you've tied yourself to Stefan in an overwhelmingly obvious way, by trying to lead the counterwagon to save him (while insisting that the counterwagon doesn't exist!). That was "suboptimal".

Two thinks.
1. I am not scum, bad luck for you.
2. What if Hoopla is really scum?

Did you stopp to think about one of them, and what that would mean for your read?

[GreyICE]

One thinks.

1. If you are scum, would you post that you were scum?

[StefanB]

That shouldn't be the question for you. The question should be what if you are wrong?
What would that mean for your read on Flavor?
Okay that info is just interesting for me.

[GreyICE]

Stefan, do you know his amazing case on Hoopla?

I’m town reading Implosion for his explanation on why he’s town reading Saudade.

Because of that.

VOTE: Hoopla

Call it OMGUS, but the post he voted me on seemed like it’s coming from a deep scum agenda.

That's literally it. That's the amazing case on Hoopla. He's devoted 10x as many posts to defending you as he has to trying to get "scum" lynched. That's literally it. That's the only thing he's ever said as to why she's scum. Holy fuck, he knows so little

he can't even pin down her gender.

And Hoopla isn't exactly an unknown on MS.

Prior to this vote, this was his case on Hoopla:

I think I’m town reading hoopla. The way she’s doing everything doesn’t seem like it’s coming from scum.

Yeah Stefan, this is a person who should be lynched for being scum. He was a shitty buddy to draw, and I'm sorry you got him.

[GreyICE]

VOTE: hoopla
im willing to do this specifically so that the one scum in implosion/myself tenet cannot be collapsed into just me being scum.

sorry partner.
if i had it my way i wouldnt lynch the funner person in the game even if i think youre maybe more likely scum than not.

I can explain Hoopla's play, I can't explain it now. Trust me on this one. I think she's town. I'm willing to look elsewhere, but that's the wrong tree. Not the least reason which, please look at what FlavorLeaf has said about the wagon.

[Flavor Leaf]

“Think”

Also, GreyIce posts a post from post #78.

Like I said, suboptimal.

Also, Grey is accusing me of the same exact thing they were doing earlier.

And now he’s talking about my scum game being poor. LOL.

I had a 2+ year undefeated scum streak, and I am known to have a strong enough scum game where people just expect the tin foil theories.

Literally, I’ve had people state that it’s hard to catch ScumBoon without a guilty.

And my town game is stronger than my scum game, I just actively make it look like it isn’t early game.

I believe I have played rather well this day phase, though, and I can’t say the same about your play.

You literally just tried to use a page 2 read as a reason to try and discredit. You accused me of the same exact thing you were doing before. NOBODY should be sheeping you.

[Cheetory6]

And my town game is stronger than my scum game

uh

I believe I have played rather well this day phase, though, and I can’t say the same about your play.

uhhhhhhhhh

[GreyICE]

And Cheetory, this is why you're voting with a scumbag. Look at what happens when I ask him to vocalize why Hoopla is scum. A wall post about how awesome he is and how bad I suck. Anything on why Hoopla is scum? Nope.

Still want to be voting with him?

[Flavor Leaf]

And my town game is stronger than my scum game

uh

I believe I have played rather well this day phase, though, and I can’t say the same about your play.

uhhhhhhhhh

I mean, you’ve went on to Hoopla with me. If you’re town, I haven’t voted you. I’m keeping it open, as a player of your ability, that would always be kept for consideration Day 1.

My history in games speaks for itself that I get results despite my rather unorthodox style of play that isn’t necessarily favorable by part of the site.

[Flavor Leaf]

And Cheetory, this is why you're voting with a scumbag. Look at what happens when I ask him to vocalize why Hoopla is scum. A wall post about how awesome he is and how bad I suck. Anything on why Hoopla is scum? Nope.

Still want to be voting with him?

I’ve already explained my reasonings, and that fact that you aren’t criticizing Cheetory shows I’m wrong about town reading you or your play is even more suboptimal.cheetory knows how to play the game.

I was moreso giving reasons to why the wagon compositions made Stefan town, and how people were picking apart town flawed plays rather than scum pushing.