Open 716: Making Friends and Enemies [Game Over]

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, what's your opinion on me? You have actually avoided me like the plague this game, so why?

You sorta seem like the fallback scumread for absolutely everyone so I'm between "back pocket scumread of scum to have an option" and "second option to your scumbuddy who doesn't intend to lynch you"

[Myloninja13]

I'm fine to take a lynch here though, at this point I'm probably more of a liability to town than an asset.

[Mathdino]

The only one there I can see happening is Gamma/Brass.

Also, have you changed your mind considerably on kmd?

i'm not lynching anyone off the davesaz wagon

[Myloninja13]

Gamma, what's your opinion on me? You have actually avoided me like the plague this game, so why?

You sorta seem like the fallback scumread for absolutely everyone so I'm between "back pocket scumread of scum to have an option" and "second option to your scumbuddy who doesn't intend to lynch you"

That sounds... weird?

[Myloninja13]

The only one there I can see happening is Gamma/Brass.

Also, have you changed your mind considerably on kmd?

i'm not lynching anyone off the davesaz wagon

That is fair.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, what's your opinion on me? You have actually avoided me like the plague this game, so why?

You sorta seem like the fallback scumread for absolutely everyone so I'm between "back pocket scumread of scum to have an option" and "second option to your scumbuddy who doesn't intend to lynch you"

That sounds... weird?

not really? Everyone suspecting you so if you're town the scum probably want you as a fallback option, and if you're scum that means whoever your buddy is want to lynch someone else over you and is probably going to continue that trend.

[GuiltyLion]

not really? Everyone suspecting you so if you're town the scum probably want you as a fallback option, and if you're scum that means whoever your buddy is want to lynch someone else over you and is probably going to continue that trend.

considering you are currently the Mylo cw, this analysis - while correct - feels oddly detached from the game. Like if you're town that'd basically make Mylo lock scum

[Myloninja13]

So Gamma, would you be fine with lynching me? And if so, is there anyone you'd rather lynch than me?

[GuiltyLion]

I'm coming to about here now

{davesaz}
{Dino, Smart, Ank}
{kmd, GC}
{brass, verydark}
{Gamma, Mylo}

this feels right-ish. doubt there's a scum above the brass/verydark tier

[Ankamius]

I'm here and reading.

[Gamma Emerald]

So Gamma, would you be fine with lynching me? And if so, is there anyone you'd rather lynch than me?

I'm not opposed yet but I still need to analyze everyone's actual read on you

[GuiltyLion]

I'm not opposed yet but I still need to analyze everyone's actual read on you

if Mylo is town then who is scum

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not opposed yet but I still need to analyze everyone's actual read on you

if Mylo is town then who is scum

probably one of (GC, brass) and I'd guess someone pushing a similar agenda

[GuiltyLion]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Mylo

I'd rather start here tbh. I still think Gamma's vote put a lot more momentum towards BuJaber lynch than Mylo's awkward L-1

[Ankamius]

I want everyone's profiles on the entire Dave wagon before end of day

Current reads?

Guiltylion - Moderate Town
Green Crayons - Light Town
Myloninja13: Very Light Town
Brassherald - Who?
Gamma Emerald - Strong Scumread

Can you talk to me about brass a bit and help me see why you think he's town? My initial PoE would suggest a Gamma/Brass scumteam, but I'm not confident I have a good read on the gamestate to the point where I trust my reads on GC and Mylo.

[GuiltyLion]

actually let's just unvote altogether
UNVOTE:

[GuiltyLion]

Vote Count 1.11

Votee	Voters
BuJaber (5)	GuiltyLion (177), Mathdino (360), popsofctown (415), Gamma Emerald (422), brassherald (586)
verydark (2)	Kmd4390 (22), BuJaber (479)
Myloninja13 (1)	davesaz (266)
popsofctown (1)	Lil Uzi Vert (499)

Not voting:

Kop, Myloninja13, Something_Smart, verydark

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Fixed.

this VC is my main problem with a brass/Gamma team - I don't feel it's likely that both scum went for the bus at this point. I should probably reread for context but my gut reaction is it's not two scum piling on BuJaber wagon here

[Kmd4390]

I'm fine to take a lynch here though, at this point I'm probably more of a liability to town than an asset.

This kind of post is why I want to Lynch gamma before Mylo now

[verydark]

Wow, this day is all over that place. Not that anyone probably cares, but I'll dive into the last 3 pages and post tomorrow morning over coffee.

But from my skim read, if mylo is scum, then I would never be able to tell his scum game from his town game...I echo the sentiment of waiting on a mylo lynch until later.

Also, his wishy washiness is bothering me, and his avatar isn't helping, which I'm starting to wonder if it's by design...

Still pegging gamma as a scum read, but I'll dive deeper into that tomorrow.

[Green Crayons]

Gamma, what's your opinion on me? You have actually avoided me like the plague this game, so why?

You sorta seem like the fallback scumread for absolutely everyone so I'm between "back pocket scumread of scum to have an option" and "second option to your scumbuddy who doesn't intend to lynch you"

Gamma, what's your opinion on me? You have actually avoided me like the plague this game, so why?

You sorta seem like the fallback scumread for absolutely everyone so I'm between "back pocket scumread of scum to have an option" and "second option to your scumbuddy who doesn't intend to lynch you"

That sounds... weird?

not really? Everyone suspecting you so if you're town the scum probably want you as a fallback option, and if you're scum that means whoever your buddy is want to lynch someone else over you and is probably going to continue that trend.

GL called this detached but I'm just going to call it mind boggling. When asked to give an opinion on mylo, you give an opinion about others (and how they are potentially reacting to mylo depending on whether mylo is or is not scum). It took me several read throughs to even understand that

that

was what you were saying.

And even still, I don't even actually understand what your point actually is.

[Green Crayons]

I'd lynch Gamma over mylo at this point.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, what's your opinion on me? You have actually avoided me like the plague this game, so why?

You sorta seem like the fallback scumread for absolutely everyone so I'm between "back pocket scumread of scum to have an option" and "second option to your scumbuddy who doesn't intend to lynch you"

Gamma, what's your opinion on me? You have actually avoided me like the plague this game, so why?

You sorta seem like the fallback scumread for absolutely everyone so I'm between "back pocket scumread of scum to have an option" and "second option to your scumbuddy who doesn't intend to lynch you"

That sounds... weird?

not really? Everyone suspecting you so if you're town the scum probably want you as a fallback option, and if you're scum that means whoever your buddy is want to lynch someone else over you and is probably going to continue that trend.

GL called this detached but I'm just going to call it mind boggling. When asked to give an opinion on mylo, you give an opinion about others (and how they are potentially reacting to mylo depending on whether mylo is or is not scum). It took me several read throughs to even understand that

that

was what you were saying.

And even still, I don't even actually understand what your point actually is.

It is a read on mylo, just founded on how others are treating them. I intend to analyze specific reads to decide which possibility is more likely.

[Green Crayons]

So your read on mylo is going to be based on how others are acting towards mylo?

[Gamma Emerald]

So your read on mylo is going to be based on how others are acting towards mylo?

pretty much yeah. are you going to say that's a bad way to read people, because I don't see how.

[Something_Smart]

We can't really do any sort of wagonomics without a Mylo flip.

Whether those dueling wagons are town/town or town/scum makes a huge difference.