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[Mathdino]

Votecount 1-6

pinturicchio

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(3)

: Oxy, Not_Mafia, Iconeum

Quick

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(1)

: mutantdevle

Fumuki

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(1)

: Alonzo

mutantdevle

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(2)

: the worst, Fumuki

Not_Mafia

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(2)

: pinturicchio, Quick

Oxy

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(1)

: Korina

Not Voting

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(3)

: Spartan117, Sando, ceejayvinoya

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2018-04-24 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- One of these days I'll flavour up the vote counts.
- Some votes not caught in between vote counts. Vote scrubber should be able to catch them though.

[Oxy]

okiee have fun with that

[mutantdevle]

UNVOTE:

I'm tempted to join the Pintu wagon, is there a legit scum case on him?

[Oxy]

not that I can tell. My vote is still from RVS...

[mutantdevle]

2 RVS votes and a shitty-reads justification vote. I'm going to hold off on that wagon for now actually.

[Sando]

What's your read on me @sando?

Null to slight scumlean at the moment, you're low on the lynch list, but my non-lynch club is more exclusive.

[Sando]

VOTE: Oxy

Ok, well, if you're not gonna say, then I'mma vote you until you do because that seems really scummy, lbr.

Reasons could mean he's still waiting to see an expected outcome from the person, as a one of this is NAI, it's only AI over long term.

Also what do you think it means in terms of Oxy's link to that player?

[Quick]

I would put this a lot higher, but you do you.

Hmm, could you explain why you'd town read him (Korina)? I currently have him as a slight scum lean but I don't see him any higher than a null tbh.

I'll ISO him again when I post my reads list but from my own recollection I don't see him as town (though maybe I'm thinking too much about the RVS?).

It's pretty simple and I already explained it. Korina is NOT playing like they are watching what they are doing carefully. They are actually playing the opposite way. They are playing incredibly careless and carefree and I think these are big time Town tells in general, but especially for him.

I think, in light of seeing Fumuki's trolly nature,

Mutantdevle looks bad here because the reaction looks kinda fake. Why does it look fake? Because mutants response is OTT and over dramatized.

I barely saw that post by Fumuki the first time around... it must have gone through my brain and been filtered as "not important" so why mutant is doing this "ohr meh gosh, I can'tz believe this!" is kinda silly. So either mutant is the type that misinterprets things frequently or they are just Scum. Should be apparent soon enough.

Bolded: umm... what happened to you saying you didn't think I was pissed off and that I was calm earlier? How do you go from thinking that to suddenly agreeing that what I said about Fumuki? Not sure if I missed anything but I don't see that progression anywhere.

And obviously, I'd be paying more attention to something he said about me than you would. Also, when did I say anything remotely like "ohr meh gosh, I can'tz believe this!". All I did was correct him, throw a bit of shade, and then things escalated from there.

Actually, I am feeling a lot better about you recently. I think you are right to question me on this. There is an explanation, however, which is that I don't think overreaction and over dramatization are the same thing. And overreaction impies an emotional state of being, which as I said, I didn't see from you based on you word choice, BUT I can see it as "stirring up things" with dramatic topics that can end up dominating the thread. So the difference is in presentation. I can see you didn't use strong language, but you did bring up a topic that people are probably going to feel strongly about. Does that make sense?

[Quick]

Town:
Oxy

I'd like some more detail on this, if you wouldn't mind.
otherwise your reads make sense

Well, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't be town reading him tbh. He is actively game solving, laying out his thought process and generally doing everything a townie needs to do. I find him very agreeable and I can follow his logic in how he's reaching different conclusions. The only complaint I could possibly have about him is that he's a little distant in that he's not getting too involved but still present.

May I ask what makes you think he's scummy? Because I really don't see it. (I'm assuming you think he's scummy since you said there's 1 scum between him and Pintu).

Yeah, I get this read. I am not as confident that Oxy is Town as you are, but I get what you are saying. The little condition without really bringing attention to it also strikes me as something Town would do. This is completely different than being obvious about saying "I will read they as X given Y" It just given more open thought process about how you are reading the player and I think this is a pretty good indicator that you are Town.

[mutantdevle]

I like your explanation in 382 so I guess you can be a town lean again. I'm not so certain you'll rise higher on my reads list again though (unless something drastic happens) since my read on you has been a see-saw, but that's probably more a fault on me than you.

[Quick]

Slight change in tone from Korina is noted.

[the worst]

people I don't really want to lynch atm are currently
the worst, Quick, Sando, mutantdevle, ceejayvinoya, Fumuki

therefore we've got 12 irl days to lynch somewhere in
pinturicchio, Spartan117, Alonzo, Iconeum, Oxy, Not_Mafia, Korina

My not-lynch is shorter than yours, but there's no-one in your lynch list that would be in my non-lynch list, so I'm cool with that. CJ doesn't deserve not-lynch status and Fumu...well I guess in a heads v tails I'll give not-lynch, but I'm not happy about it. Not happy about it I tells you, not happy!

Wait, ling of ducks, lets move Oxy into the "posts good enough stuff that we'll get a fine read in subsequent days" catagory, and not lynch him today. Swap him for CJ mmmk.

I don't wanna do this yettt but I agree he's less likely scum than tallglassofliquor

Why CJ?

[the worst]

In post 346, the worst wrote:
I always forget about night phases. vig should 100% shoot NM up


What do you mean by this? Are you implying you know for a fact there is a vigi in the game?

Do you think this is a slip? Why?

[Sando]

Why CJ?

I'm looking at it that you should justify CJ into town, all I'm saying is he hasn't earned town-status for today imo, not that he's scummy.

[Quick]

Why CJ?

I'm looking at it that you should justify CJ into town, all I'm saying is he hasn't earned town-status for today imo, not that he's scummy.

Why is CJ Town?

[Oxy]

@quick reasons

[Quick]

@quick reasons

IDK what you are addressing.

[Oxy]

Why is CJ Town?

sorry for ambiguity =)

[the worst]

Because hes a warrior of light and we need him against Garland

I'll explain my vibe later when I have more time

[Quick]

Why is CJ Town?

sorry for ambiguity =)

Wasn't asking you???

[Oxy]

Wasn't asking you???

The answer, while directed at you, wasn't actually meant for you either. ;P

[Quick]

Wasn't asking you???

The answer, while directed at you, wasn't actually meant for you either. ;P

Carry on than.

[ceejayvinoya]

Yay fellow FF fans! You all get bonus townlean points

Kidding aside,

@Oxy

is duckling still null to you? So far I think he's pretty helpful for town.

[ceejayvinoya]

@Sando may we see your read list, or do you prefer to keep it to yourself for now?

[Oxy]

Yay fellow FF fans! You all get bonus townlean points

Kidding aside,

@Oxy

is duckling still null to you? So far I think he's pretty helpful for town.

Yeah, still null. Could you point me to the posts that make you think he's town?