Open 716: Making Friends and Enemies [Game Over]

[Myloninja13]

Gamma, why are you unvoting me now? Everyone wants me lynched now that you're confirmed, I may as well get it over with.

VOTE: Mylo

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't though
your reaction feels kinda genuine

[Myloninja13]

What would you expect me as scum to say?

[Myloninja13]

Also, everyone claiming one of Gamma and I are scum just got put down like two slots in my reads list. Aside from Mathdino because he's the only town read that I fully trust here.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't exactly know but my gut tells me it's not that

let me do my own thing for a bit and I'll get back to you when I can

[Kmd4390]

Hmm.

Now the question is whether gamma believed that was hammer or not.

Mylos first post after my vote felt fake but everything after that feels town.

Ugh.

Mathdino, help

[Myloninja13]

Kmd just shot up to my second highest town read, because that plan was honestly amazing.

[Kmd4390]

It's actually pretty common...

[Myloninja13]

It is?

Oh.

[Kmd4390]

That's why I'm not sure if gamma bought it or not...

[Myloninja13]

And him posting straight after knowing that he did probably didn't help matters.

[GuiltyLion]

Nah actually you know I thought more about Gamma's initial Mylo read and I don't really see that as scummy

I agree it's not always a good way to sort people as GC pointed out but I have a habit of thinking like that myself all the time

the weirder thing for me here is that I feel like town!Gamma should be much more convinced of scum!Mylo but I also don't know that scum!Gamma would go so far as to fake uncertainty about Mylo here

I'm starting to think I'd much rather lynch Mylo today

[GuiltyLion]

Please give me a chance tomorrow guys, I'll try and actually put effort in!

I could argue against my lynch here, but at the very least we know Gamma is confirmed here so you can probably lynch me now.

We'll go into day 3 with at least one confirmed townie, and you'll avoid the whole "Scum in Gamma/Mylo" thing.

man but neither of these wagons feels all that great anymore?

I kinda want to lynch verydark most of all, but I do agree lynching off-dave is a bad idea for right now

[GuiltyLion]

ugh quote bug. I was thinking about Mylo's progression there but I decided it kinda makes sense from a townie perspective who goes from thinking Gamma was hammered to legit thinking Gamma is conftown

[GuiltyLion]

I'm flip flopping all over the place every time I reread the whole interaction of the last two pages

[GuiltyLion]

am I giving GC too much towncred? Is GC/verydark a thing?

[GuiltyLion]

nah you know what

I definitely think Mylo is scummier than Gamma and while he is making some townie-ish sounding posts it's not enough to want to rule out him being scum like I want to do with Gamma

[GuiltyLion]

UNVOTE:
I'm actually going to lock you as town for a bit because your reactions after hammer were pretty alright and I want to see what I end up thinking
also I definitely believe KMD is town, I don't think scum!her thinks to fakehammer like that

I don't though
your reaction feels kinda genuine

basically I think this is an angle that scum!Gamma wouldn't think of taking because it doesn't really gain anything for him and it's counterintuitive play as scum. The odds are still very good that Gamma gets lynched today or D3 and so if I'm scum!Gamma I'm probably just pushing hard for a town!Mylo mislynch first and foremost. I doubt he consciously decides to go for a "fake uncertainty for towncred" play, I feel like it's far more likely that town!Gamma is genuinely unsure about Mylo here

[GuiltyLion]

Gamma, why are you unvoting me now? Everyone wants me lynched now that you're confirmed, I may as well get it over with.

VOTE: Mylo

whereas this move is more easy for me to conceive of as a ploy for towncred

What would you expect me as scum to say?

and if Mylo genuinely thinks Gamma is conftown - the only thing making me doubt scum!Mylo because it provides a logical narrative for his posts - then it doesn't really make sense to ask this question

Mylo

why did you ask this question?

I think I'm waffling because Mylo's posts make sense from "perspective of a player who thought that Gamma had a locktown reaction to the hammer", but when I think about it more deeply I don't really see that as AI. scum!Mylo just as easily might have thought town!Gamma's reaction was obviously town.

[Gamma Emerald]

yo mathdino can we get another dose of the vote scrubber I wanna peek at some peak wagons

[GuiltyLion]

Also, everyone claiming one of Gamma and I are scum just got put down like two slots in my reads list.

I also feel like town should/would have been more specific here than just throwing out the vague form of the statement

Like if I'm town and I think this, I go back and I reread and see who specifically was saying that, instead of casting blanket shade. He's still previously claimed strong townreads on myself and GC, and I think we were the main people pushing that opinion (me especially).

so,

intent to hammer Mylo

. Gonna wait for VC and everyone to check in - but I think he's at L-1. Please no hammers on Gamma I think that's the Wrong Lynch today

[Kmd4390]

Meh

I'm gonna steal your hammer

Unvote, Vote Mylo

[Aster]

Vote Count 2.14

Votee	Voters
Myloninja13 (5)	davesaz (948), brassherald (1116), Something_Smart (1144), Myloninja13 (1275), Kmd4390 (1296)
Gamma Emerald (3)	Ankamius (1017), Mathdino (1153), Green Crayons (1231)
brassherald (1)	verydark (1121)

Not voting:

Gamma Emerald, GuiltyLion

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: brass
I actually feel like their voting today has been somewhat opportunistic

[Kmd4390]

Unvote

Vote count ruined it that time.

I want to know what Mathdino thinks about recent events.