Mini 1998: Super Smash Mafia for Nintendo Switch! [GAME OVER


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Post Post #2050 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:40 pm

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I think theres night actions we dont know about @alisae
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Post Post #2051 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:40 pm

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Awooooooooooooooo
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #2052 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:41 pm

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In post 1938, Alisae wrote:
LOGIC BOMB




         
Part 1: Kokichi has been softing protective.

They have been laying down softs that can be reasonably pointed to and indicated as softs.
Also their resistence to claiming comes off as they want to stay hidden even though at this point they're completely outed.
HOWEVER

         
Part 2: Kokichi is NOT a protective

is pratically suicidal to make as a protective unless you have a BP or a commute or some sort of life saving device, and even then you don't need to bring that attention to yourself, you really don't. Hence why I won't believe any protective claims, and playing suboptimally isn't really an excuse. THEREFORE

         
Part 3: Wolves plan was to initate a massclaim

This could be seen by Gamma saying Massclaim GO. NOTE that Gamma could still be town, it's not really indicative of wolf!Gamma,
what's important is that Kokichi claims.

I supported it because I wanted to see what happened, but also because I don't any surprise lolfakeguilties in LyLo, also at the time I thought that Claire might have been an outed wolf and thought that massclaim would help shed light on that. But I'm probably just wrong on Claire and wolves could have also shot Wis or something. Anyways, carrying on.

         
Part 4: Kokichi wanted to claim that he was the reason there was no kill for towncred

However this gets stopped because of setup speculation I did, saying that I think a doc or any protective coming out now (or any like BPs or Commuters etc) and plus, this is pressure that I would be putting on Kokichi in . Like its a fairly easy, low effort gambit to do. It doesn't take up that much resources either.

         
Part 5: Kokichi attempts to backtrack

Since it was mutally agreed upon that we're massclaim, he doesn't know what he's panics. He says he won't claim, and his recent interactions with me look like he's nervious. Like basicly his plan was ruined, what else was going to happen? Claim VT? I'll get to why that doesn't really prevent himself from dieing. Either way, boom we got a wolf.

         
The Heart of the Gambit

Kokichi needed to do this because Claire and Joey TR me, and he was on the chopping block, Claire even said this earlier in a post that if our reads merged, it would point to Kokichi and Gamma. They knew they were fucked if they straight up killed, so they went with this gambit to attempt to get some cred before anything happened. But now that their chances at attempting the gambit are gone, Kokichi kind of just doesn't know what to do, hence his behavoir towards me. The nail in the coffin is honestly the FoS on me because at that point it just seems like he's caught when he says that I'm "Reaching" for things. Kokichi laid the last minute softs to do the gambit, so it was worth a try.

Now that he can't he can't claim VT because he's on the chopping block, he can't claim BP/Commuter because he'll get lynched, and he can't claim Doc because that would probably get him lynched as well.

         
Okay we lynch Kokichi, what's next?

Look at the flip, because Kokichi is flipping a wolf, and when he does, his role will determine who his buddy is.
Is it a goon/rb? If so, the last wolf is probably Gamma via play.
Is it a Doc/JK? If so, lynch Acryon gg ez game.

If Kokichi is a RB, why can't Acryon be a wolf?
Well he can, but the logic of Pint was blocked because he shot Acryon is stupid. Wolves didn't know that Pint was going to shoot Acryon, and wolves could have been aiming aimlessly with the RB.
If you think Acryon is a wolf because of this logic, please stop playing mafia, ty.

Now if you think Acryon is a wolf based on their play, thats a different story for a different time.

         
Conclusion

Kokichi is a wolf who tried to setup a no kill gambit in attempt to milk towncred from it, however it backfired as soon as he saw that his plan wasn't going to work or change his current situation.
Kokichi is always the correct lynch today, please clap ty.
BECAUSE I MADE THIS POST, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS HAS COME TO?

IT HAS COME TO KOKICHI TRYING TO FAKECLAIM FRIENDLY NEIGHBOUR TO TRY TO COAST FOR A WIN.
CAN WE NOT LET HIM DO THAT PLEASE.
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Post Post #2053 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:41 pm

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Alisae, does this trigger you?

AWOooooooooOOOoOOoOoOo

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Post Post #2054 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:42 pm

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lmao

alisae i think your read is fine, i just think we missing stuff here because the play doesnt work as mefia
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Post Post #2055 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:42 pm

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THEN VOTE KOKICHI
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Post Post #2056 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:42 pm

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Nah, i want mariar to tell me if she had any kind of check on the guy or something
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Post Post #2057 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:43 pm

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IT WILL LITERALLY BE SELF-EVIDENT ON WHAT TO DO NEXT AFTER HE FLIPS WOLF JUST FUCKING DO IT.
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Post Post #2058 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:43 pm

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Also kokichi you should claim
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Post Post #2059 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:43 pm

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In post 2056, Joey_ wrote:Nah, i want mariar to tell me if she had any kind of check on the guy or something
WITH A FUCKING COP IN THE SETUP YOU THINK CLAIRE IS GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER FUCKING PEEK

OH MY GOD NO
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Post Post #2060 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:43 pm

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Joey, I want to townread Alisae cause she didn't act like this as scum when I saw her as scum

Also, Alisae has townread me when I was scum twice, so the fact that she hasn't brought up the fact that she's townread me each time I've been scum, and this game she scumreads me is weird to me. But, that's just on a personal level
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Post Post #2061 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:43 pm

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In post 2059, Alisae wrote:
In post 2056, Joey_ wrote:Nah, i want mariar to tell me if she had any kind of check on the guy or something
WITH A FUCKING COP IN THE SETUP YOU THINK CLAIRE IS GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER FUCKING PEEK

OH MY GOD NO
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Post Post #2062 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:44 pm

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Joey, I already claimed. And you said you townread me already. Don't start being suspicious. I want to trust the cat here.
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Post Post #2063 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:44 pm

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In post 2060, Kokichi Oma wrote:Joey, I want to townread Alisae cause she didn't act like this as scum when I saw her as scum

Also, Alisae has townread me when I was scum twice, so the fact that she hasn't brought up the fact that she's townread me each time I've been scum, and this game she scumreads me is weird to me. But, that's just on a personal level
In the contrary, the fact that shes being much more paranoid about your slot
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Post Post #2064 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:45 pm

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i wont get pocketed bud, you fakeclaimed and i told you i townread for weak stuff
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Post Post #2065 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:45 pm

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townread you*
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Post Post #2066 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:45 pm

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you want my claim?
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #2067 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:46 pm

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I want to know if you have anything night-action related on ko that could influence your townread on them
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Post Post #2068 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:46 pm

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Maria are you sure on Joey he's being flaky here.
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Post Post #2069 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:46 pm

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I want kokichi to tell me have many times he visit'd me if any.
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #2070 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:47 pm

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In post 2068, Kokichi Oma wrote:Maria are you sure on Joey he's being flaky here.
im being thorough
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Post Post #2071 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:48 pm

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In post 2069, MariaR wrote:I want kokichi to tell me have many times he visit'd me if any.
None?
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Post Post #2072 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:48 pm

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....none?
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #2073 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:48 pm

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In post 2069, MariaR wrote:I want kokichi to tell me have many times he visit'd me if any.
PLEASE DO NOT LIE TO SUPPORT WOLVES BECAUSE YOU THINK THEY ARE TOWN
LIKE I AM GOING TO BE PISSED IF YOU LIE FOR KOKICHI WHEN ANOTHER CONFIRMED TOWNIE TILTS THE TOWNSIDEDNESS OF THE SETUP TO A 85-15 RATIO.

PEDIT: DUDE JOEY HE'S JUST A WOLF JUST LYNCH HIM.
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Post Post #2074 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:49 pm

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In post 2073, Alisae wrote:
In post 2069, MariaR wrote:I want kokichi to tell me have many times he visit'd me if any.
PLEASE DO NOT LIE TO SUPPORT WOLVES BECAUSE YOU THINK THEY ARE TOWN
LIKE I AM GOING TO BE PISSED IF YOU LIE FOR KOKICHI WHEN ANOTHER CONFIRMED TOWNIE TILTS THE TOWNSIDEDNESS OF THE SETUP TO A 85-15 RATIO.

PEDIT: DUDE JOEY HE'S JUST A WOLF JUST LYNCH HIM.
if hes wolf it'll show dont worry, time is our tool

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