Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[marshy]

i was thinking joey/chara/bu/shaz/pidgey as town in that order leaving me with like klazam/joda/you/ran. im hoping to work through these today and try to see if im misreading one of my townpiles. feel like im missing something. what were you saying regarding an sk?

[Chara]

Yesterday I asked you your top town top scum and you had a pool of would lynch and would not lynch.

How does that pool change based on today’s events?

i'm not sure. i already thought Almost was town. considering no other protectives i can think of i can only thing both scumteams shot him. i'm interested in who Shaziro shot more than anything.

why don't you think there's scum in the religion spreaders any more? you seemed sure of it before. i don't think there ever had to be though.

[OnTheMark]

also, i am now a protestant.

i'm not surprised the games were just flavour, considering pidgey seemed to have been allowed to just write anything. :>

will yu b going to mass with me?

Mass is Catholic

Lol

Uhm you mean church.

*tries to focus*

What are your reads?

jealous much?

Considering my atheism in real life and I haven’t had a religion encroach on my lands jealousy should be the

least of your concerns

What are your reads?

Pedit

Lol rip slow phone internet

I was thinking Shaziro was an SK but now not so sure. Would love a second opinion.

Oh before I forget

VLA until Wednesday morning because no internet ATM except my phone

[OnTheMark]

Yesterday I asked you your top town top scum and you had a pool of would lynch and would not lynch.

How does that pool change based on today’s events?

i'm not sure. i already thought Almost was town. considering no other protectives i can think of i can only thing both scumteams shot him. i'm interested in who Shaziro shot more than anything.

why don't you think there's scum in the religion spreaders any more? you seemed sure of it before. i don't think there ever had to be though.

I did but mainly I am just more confused than anything. The fact that it wasn’t in red or orange scum’s interest to kill in the spreaders if orange had one and Shaziro shooting A50 is a SK claim I am kinda thinking my original theory was wrong.

[marshy]

also, i am now a protestant.

i'm not surprised the games were just flavour, considering pidgey seemed to have been allowed to just write anything. :>

will yu b going to mass with me?

Mass is Catholic

Lol

Uhm you mean church.

*tries to focus*

What are your reads?

jealous much?

Considering my atheism in real life and I haven’t had a religion encroach on my lands jealousy should be the

least of your concerns

What are your reads?

Pedit

Lol rip slow phone internet

I was thinking Shaziro was an SK but now not so sure. Would love a second opinion.

Oh before I forget

VLA until Wednesday morning because no internet ATM except my phone

i read this as "i want to b converted"

[Chara]

i think i'm waiting to see what Shaziro says about last night first.

we've gone three nights now without definitive kills from two scumteams. if i suck and Gamma's scum then Elbirn died via weak, Dunker via Shaziro, Varsoon via red. night 2 Shaziro killed Kokichi, scum killed Nero. then last night only Almost is dead. night 1 could have been orange shooting Elbirn, which is what i thought. at this point i'm wondering if we've just gotten really lucky with crosskills/protection, Nero could have protected night 1/night 2, too.

[OnTheMark]

i think i'm waiting to see what Shaziro says about last night first.

we've gone three nights now without definitive kills from two scumteams. if i suck and Gamma's scum then Elbirn died via weak, Dunker via Shaziro, Varsoon via red. night 2 Shaziro killed Kokichi, scum killed Nero. then last night only Almost is dead. night 1 could have been orange shooting Elbirn, which is what i thought. at this point i'm wondering if we've just gotten really lucky with crosskills/protection, Nero could have protected night 1/night 2, too.

I definitely agree with that. I just am really confuzzled.

Like assume another protection role exists.

We know red had a religion spreader and roleblocker.
How the fuck is red supposed to survive against all that? It kinda reads like how not to balance mafia.

[Chara]

if Kiana's town i'm pretty damn sure Klazam is scum. i don't want to lynch anywhere besides him today without something more.

i think i've been lazy on sorting Joda because of the role. i sort of just accepted it and moved on.
Joey's just town. Mark i'm like 80% confident this is his towngame and his reaction to the nightkill for me actually helps.

[marshy]

i dont get why the obvtowns werent killed last night

[Chara]

We know red had a religion spreader and roleblocker.
How the fuck is red supposed to survive against all that? It kinda reads like how not to balance mafia.

i'd guess a strongman but brass is still alive and i don't see a real reason for that by now.

i mean. it could still just be we got lucky and there's nothing to be concerned about?

knowing for certain if Gamma is town or not would help, but i'm not flipping him just for that. and i want to flip Klazam.

pedit: Joey has a commute. like i said don't know why brass is alive. Almost i think was pretty towny but it's still strange.
also every time marshy posts i want to townread him. haha.

[Chara]

Shaziro/Gamma/Joda's actions would help, i don't know why i'm trying to think through this at 1am before that. night!

[Shaziro]

Sorry I've been away, got very busy. Tomorrow is D&D Night and I'll be mostly away from computer then too, but before and after I'll be here some. I didn't shoot last night, I'm out of shots. Didn't claim that yesterday in the hopes of drawing a scum NK, but I figure the information is more valuable to town now.

[Joey_]

VOTE: pidgey

Pidgey convince me you’re town or die.

Ill fucking lynch you first, stop being a twit

[Joey_]

Sorry I've been away, got very busy. Tomorrow is D&D Night and I'll be mostly away from computer then too, but before and after I'll be here some. I didn't shoot last night, I'm out of shots. Didn't claim that yesterday in the hopes of drawing a scum NK, but I figure the information is more valuable to town now.

Tbh tought it was your shot

[Joey_]

Yesterday I asked you your top town top scum and you had a pool of would lynch and would not lynch.

How does that pool change based on today’s events?

i'm not sure. i already thought Almost was town. considering no other protectives i can think of i can only thing both scumteams shot him. i'm interested in who Shaziro shot more than anything.

why don't you think there's scum in the religion spreaders any more? you seemed sure of it before. i don't think there ever had to be though.

I did but mainly I am just more confused than anything. The fact that it wasn’t in red or orange scum’s interest to kill in the spreaders if orange had one and Shaziro shooting A50 is a SK claim I am kinda thinking my original theory was wrong.

No shaz obviously town, you reads are atrocious

[Joey_]

i dont get why the obvtowns werent killed last night

I thought that mafia mightve tried to hit me again and that a50 was shaz shot, or last night something something, i can tank a shot and not know about it

[Joey_]

Gamma also claimed a commute shot so even in scum wanted there might not have tried, also we discussed this but the IC staying alive doesnt really help town that much at this point, especially considering how weak resolutions have been

[brassherald]

I really thought I'd be dead by now. New plan, we lynch scum, not just posters who end up getting banned anyway.

I blame Pedro II of Brazil for all town's failings.

[Joey_]

Its hard to process but the A50 is just, uh suboptimal for a scum shot lets be real here, this means that mafia was forced to take this shot over others including the IC, myself and possibly gamma's commute shot claim. Another thing is that if all religion spreader are town, shooting in that pool is not bad for scum as well especially considering a50's claim was the first, he was confirmed ot have been on the IC etc its hard to push that as mafia hm

TLDR : a50 feels like a compromise shot, it works if all religion spreader are town because it gives incentive to flip one of the 1/2 in the pool Even if im concerned about marshy"s posting, hes just posting better than slot like ran and klazoum
-> I will make a reread of the game and see whats popping up, i suggest everyone do the same

[Joey_]

1.

EVERYONE AGREE ON MASSCLAIM, in this order RAN -> KLAZOUM -> CHARA

-> i will update my chart with the full roles once its done

2.

I want everyone to chime in, reread the game at least surfing the threat and make somewhat of a comprehensive list, hardly anyone did that so its hard to question others read. Also almost everyone has 1-2 foses while theres at least 3 mafia

[brassherald]

Haven't they all claimed already?

[Joey_]

BTW if mafia fail there shot once more (assuming they failed n2) it gives a ml back to town, it proves that a50 was a compromise and safe shot

[Joey_]

Haven't they all claimed already?

Still need ran, klaz and chara

[BuJaber]

Massclaim time? Might help especially regarding gamma.

Down to lynch klazam > joda > mark > pidgey > marshy in that order. This might change if people claim. We might get some people caught in a lie.

I think joda is getting a free pass. Don't get what's so townie there.

A50 shot could be wifom to stop us shooting religion spreaders but I mean it worked if that was the point.

HEAL: Host: Brass x3

[BuJaber]

Don't just claim roles I think we need action claims for all nights to figure out what happened.