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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:28 pm

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Votecount 1.33B

Tchill13(8)
~ (175), (69), (66), (78), (71), (104), (60), (55)

Quick(2)
~ (38), (103)
Nero Cain(2)
~ (36), (75)
Centipede Syndrome(2)
~ (19), (33)
MariaR(1)
~ (94)
Hopkirk(1)
~ (39)
Ausuka(1)
~ (29)


Not Voting (6): Town Gunner(0), Mafia Gunner(0), (93), (247), The Worst(4), (114)

With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-25 12:53:00)
Last edited by Mulch on Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:30 pm

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In post 1633, Spiffeh wrote:Maria makes me feel no type of way so I hope Elli explains that instead of trusting we'll take his word for it
i'm taking his word for it. so if you're think we're scum, we're scum, but if you think we're town, Maria's scum. :>
bed now, night.

town is Grey, Gork, Quick, possibly Hopkirk

scum is Maria and Ausuka. that's all i have right now. everything but Maria is my read.

pedit: take it up with Elli, it's not like i know how it works beyond the vaguest of things i've been told.
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:32 pm

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That's because it doesn't, chara. At least not to the extent that it can't be wrong.
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:35 pm

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I'm just going to pretend the Centipede doesn't exist.
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:35 pm

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Am I allowed to do that?
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:37 pm

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In post 1654, Brian Skies wrote:Am I allowed to do that?
Sure, but it will probably make you look scummy.
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:37 pm

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I don't care.
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:37 pm

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Panopticon: so you're shading the Maria read based on what? that we're scum or the fact that nothing could possibly be 100% accurate? are you 100% accurate? :P

she's scum. i'm completely convinced of this and i hope Gork, Grey, etc. go through with lynching her if we die first.
Panopticon is a great buddy candidate, also! :>

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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:37 pm

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In post 1656, Brian Skies wrote:I don't care.
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:38 pm

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In post 1657, Centipede Syndrome wrote:pedit: you can if you want. didn't realize you disliked me so much, Brian.
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:39 pm

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what exactly have i done besides have low-ish activity (i'm busy, deal.) and trust exactly one of Elli's reads to warrant being ignored?

pedit: it's only Chara, Brian. any shitposts are Elli. i can start signing again.
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:40 pm

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In post 1657, Centipede Syndrome wrote:Panopticon: so you're shading the Maria read based on what? that we're scum
or the fact that nothing could possibly be 100% accurate
? are you 100% accurate?
[1]
:P

she's scum.
[2]
i'm completely convinced of this and i hope Gork, Grey, etc. go through with lynching her if we die first.
Panopticon is a great buddy candidate, also!
[3]
:>

pedit: you can if you want. didn't realize you disliked me so much, Brian.
1: I am not. It is not possible. And I'm not sure I would want to be if it were possible.
2: I'm willing to lynch it if you flip town at some point.
3: Is that your bot read or is this now a human player?

@brian, The Observer aka tn5421, since Varsoon outed his head name in his first post when i specifically said we weren't going to...
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:40 pm

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wew i answered another question not aimed at me, neat
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:40 pm

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Ok I read over the last 10 pages more carefully and have come to the conclusion that Nero Cain is obviously town, especially comparing it to the scum games Gorkington linked.
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:42 pm

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i don't have access to the program. i don't even think Elli used it here. i can ask him but i don't think he did.

as for things not being 100% possible... i mean. obviously. Elli's accuracy is high enough that if he says someone is 100% scum as opposed to "maybe scum" i know he's sure.

pedit: oh right, Nero's also town. thanks for reminding me.
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:42 pm

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Alright, so, here's my thing.

I don't have anything against you or Elli.

I do have an issue with you guys dropping by as the TChill wagon starts gaining steam to drop off scumreads without reasons like we're rabbits chasing a carrot on a stick.

I think, with the current gamestate, and the people who are stubbornly fixated on TChill being scum, it would make sense for you (or Elli, idrc) to focus on the TChill slot, no? Has he looked at that slot yet? Does he even have an opinion?

Because I have no reason to believe that your scumreads are anything other than a distraction from what is going on right now.
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:47 pm

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Can we stop town reading me so scum will think I'm lynchable and not kill me?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:48 pm

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i looked at chill. i don't really have much of an opinion there. personally he's on the townish side of null. and yes, he's so damn scummy and is doing absolutely nothing to rectify that, so the fact that there's a wagon on him doesn't surprise me at all. he could be scum, sure. he's not even here right now and said he's resetting, so am i supposed to interact with him? interact with the wagon? every vote on chill is justified because he's scummy, so there's nothing i find particularly interesting to look at.

and no, like i keep saying, Elli doesn't have time for this game for the rest of the day. he doesn't have an opinion.

pedit: well, meta isn't
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:49 pm

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to clarify with the above post, chill being objectively scummy and lynchable is different from my thinking he's nullish. knowing nothing at all about chill my first guess based on his hypocritical reaction to Toranaga would be townish.
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:50 pm

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In post 1663, Spiffeh wrote:Ok I read over the last 10 pages more carefully and have come to the conclusion that Nero Cain is obviously town, especially comparing it to the scum games Gorkington linked.
In post 1664, Centipede Syndrome wrote:i don't have access to the program. i don't even think Elli used it here. i can ask him but i don't think he did.

as for things not being 100% possible... i mean. obviously. Elli's accuracy is high enough that if he says someone is 100% scum as opposed to "maybe scum" i know he's sure.

pedit: oh right, Nero's also town. thanks for reminding me.
What do you both think of this post:
In post 324, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 308, Nero Cain wrote:I didn't really like your jokey . Seems uncharacteristic for you.
In post 180, Hopkirk wrote:Can you list those trolls? Serious question.
this seems like a useless filler question and I don't see town asking this.
In post 247, Hopkirk wrote:Quick Quick, give me three people you townread.
Also still interested in how you read the game like you said you did.
this felt like the kind of "throw gas on a fire" post that scum makes to fuel a wagon.
Nero can be town.
I was assuming I was in his 'trolling/joking' group and wondered why he didn't mention anything. Based on the one game I played with him, that's the impression I thought he had od me, even if it's not accurate. Not liking the joke explains well.

Should be easy to find town me opening with bad jokes.

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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:52 pm

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i have very few feelings re: that post. what's interesting to you?
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:52 pm

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In post 1670, Centipede Syndrome wrote:i have very few feelings re: that post. what's interesting to you?
How early the TR on nero came in before his meta way brought up at all.
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:56 pm

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You KNEW my meta and you STILL scum read me. How is this any diffrent than what you were supposedly scum reading me for?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:58 pm

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Quick: assuming Nero is town, from a scum Hopkirk pov i'd call it an attempt at buddying/getting Nero to ease up on the scumread. but it could also be a genuine opinion from town Hopkirk.
i mean, players are allowed to townread Nero for things besides meta. is it that the read is too early in general?

pedit: hahaha. i don't know why that post is so funny. i should really fill in the gaps of what i've read re: when Quick's read on Nero changed.
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:59 pm

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i can't find Quick scumreading you, Nero. if he did i missed it or it was very early.
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