Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

[Nero Cain]

and Worst is just a stormtrooper.

[Tchill13]

(by the way, i agree with your signature, though i suspect the original context was sarcastic.)

My sig isn't sarcastic at all. I suck at solving because I am alway seeing things 10 different ways.

this was actually to chill, sorry. i meant his signature.

yeah i was being sarcastic when i said that and someone told me to use it as my sig.

When i first started playing a [player once said town win by lynching scum, not being towny. A light bulb went off and i realized most scums objective is to "be towny". its a play on that.

[Tchill13]

why mention worst at all? totally NAI stuff there.

[Nero Cain]

reasons

[Tchill13]

and also most people dont play enough to be transparently town.

trust me ik i shouldn't be talking rn lol.

[Brian Skies]

UNVOTE: TChill

Since this wagon will undoubtedly go to L-1 once Grey wakes up.

[Brian Skies]

vote:tchill

What triggered you?

[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.34

Tchill13(8)

~ randomidget(175), Ausuka(69), Beeboy(66), CheekyTeeky(78), Panopticon(76), Gorkington(104), Spiffeh(56), Nero Cain(111)

Nero Cain(2)

~ Brigand Vvulf(36), GreyICE(75)

Ausuka(2)

~ MariaR(29), Tchill13(34)

Quick(1)

~ Srceenplay(38)

MariaR(1)

~ Centipede Syndrome(108)

Hopkirk(1)

~ Thor665(39)

Centipede Syndrome(1)

~ Bins(33)


Not Voting (7): Town Gunner(0), Mafia Gunner(0), Hopkirk(93), Quick(253), The Worst(4), Creature(114), Brian Skies(67)

With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-25 12:53:00)

[Tchill13]

Brian what do you think about ausuka?

[GreyICE]

I'm super okay with my vote right where it is.

I'd think more people would be super okay with it too.

[Brian Skies]

Brian what do you think about ausuka?

It's a conflicted read because I want to believe that I was right she was buddying me in the beginning of the game since I don't believe I did anything worthy of a townread at that stage of the game, even for people who are familiar with me. Her explanation that I was 'being protown without trying to look like it' is reasonable, but I don't really buy it. I don't really buy that Hopkirk's post gives off this major 'uninformed' feeling (like, what even is this? is that even a thing?). And her explanation for it is pretty ???. She also seems to be going for 'easy targets' (Quick/Centipede/Tchill).

I actually liked her being around despite not wanting to catch up. I also can't read for tone very well and her posts kinda sorta look like gamesolving to me (a lot of people do though), so it's a difficult read for me to feel good about.

I think she's scummy, but my confidence in it is pretty low.

[Tchill13]

She went for centipede? I didn't see her specifically vote centipede. If so she voted on all the major wagons. Great break down I think you should be a little more confident in you "feelings" though. At least persue them with confidence and go from there.

Grey other than me do you have any scum reads?

[Tchill13]

I'll look at hopkirk next.

[GreyICE]

She went for centipede? I didn't see her specifically vote centipede. If so she voted on all the major wagons. Great break down I think you should be a little more confident in you "feelings" though. At least persue them with confidence and go from there.

Grey other than me do you have any scum reads?

You're making such a strong argument for lynching you right now.

[Brian Skies]

You are correct. I have no idea why I thought she voted Centipede.

I just don't see anything that leaps out to me that says 'wow, this is definitely scum.'

[Tchill13]

Grey do you have any other scum reads than me?

I understand my mislynch will be my own doing and absolutely no one should be blamed for it. I'm not focusing on that.

I'm trying to work with you if possible.

[GreyICE]

Look dude, even if you're not reading the game AT ALL a few posts up there's a vote count. That might give you the slightest little clue what I mean.

[Tchill13]

You are correct. I have no idea why I thought she voted Centipede.

I just don't see anything that leaps out to me that says 'wow, this is definitely scum.'

Centipede called ausuka scum in a safe situation for ausuka. I'm just saying scum distancing wouldn't surprise me.

That said it's only an association thing I do not scum read centipede.

[Brian Skies]

seriously though, tchill is a hard logic-based player from my experience in floral. feels hard to believe that he would hop on the wagon like that. i mean, the wagon hop still scummy in and of itself, but that makes tchill scummier.

She did have this to say about you though.

[Tchill13]

Literally more work for you to type that paragraph out than to say "I'm voting Nero Cain" just so you can belittle me to make your point.

Point made.

[Brian Skies]

I question my ability to count.

[Tchill13]

seriously though, tchill is a hard logic-based player from my experience in floral. feels hard to believe that he would hop on the wagon like that. i mean, the wagon hop still scummy in and of itself, but that makes tchill scummier.

She did have this to say about you though.

Ausuka doesn't know how I play as scum. The logic train of thought is correct but saying I'm scummy because I'm scummy is... Technically true but what's the point in that redundant statement? Lol.

[Tchill13]

I'll try to look into Nero also.

Nero and hopkirk are my next projects.

[GreyICE]

Literally more work for you to type that paragraph out than to say "I'm voting Nero Cain" just so you can belittle me to make your point.

Point made.

The point wasn't really that I'm voting Nero Cain. It's that this 11th hour effort doesn't contain much... effort. The problem with reading you is that you haven't done anything resembling scumhunting, and while a lot of people are behind thanks to the volume of posting, it feels like you're barely trying. That leaves me trying to read you off tone and a lack of effort, and tone reads are unreliable at best.

Like dude, this progression under pressure is classic:

Regardless of Tor's alignment...he knows. I'm just willfully antagonizing him on his bad reads. Not all that interested in the tchill or Screenplay scum reads he's pushing either.

Also why me doesn't equal fry me or else nobody would say why me.

Of course it does. Always has, always will.

This "tell" has been around since we first started here. It was never that accurate to being with and is likely even less accurate now. Not really liking the strongarm.

I sorta feel like Tchill would try to be more visible as scum as opposed to lurking 30 pages. Sure, there's the possibility that he was busy IRL and rolled a scum pm but I don't feel like the case on him is strong.

vote:tchill

All this and I still can't decide whether or not Nero Cain is just bussing, because you've set yourself up to be lynched or vigged so hard I don't think if you were scum scum would be bothering to try and preserve your slot.

So yeah, uh, Nero Cain is classic scum and I'd STILL need more reason not to vote you (as I said to BVV earlier, ego sticking on one scumread day 1 in a large is counterproductive to getting scum lynched)

[Tchill13]

i knew your point was me not payiung attention, lack of effort.

We're 70 pages in and i dont know where to begin sorting. im a bit overwhelmed is all. I'm trying to find proper footing.

the nero push makes sense and obviously if i were scum here id be bussed.