Mini Normal 1999: BooneyToonz VII - Join the Boonguard!

[Lovebird]

Hi, I'm the replacement frog.

VOTE: rb

[Lovebird]

VOTE: kookoobird

[Lovebird]

I am aligned with the town. I win when scum are all dead.

This is scum. Nothing lexa said was scummy I think.

[Lovebird]

Love beats kookoo.

[Lovebird]

I'm ready to kill 2 birds with one rope

Don't be bitter please.

[Lovebird]

I think I know what's lexa is talking about.

[Lovebird]

I think I know what's lexa is talking about.

What kind of cookie would you like?

Something like oatmeal I guess, not really big on chocolate.

You're going to say what you're talking about later, right?

[Lovebird]

i almost feel bad about how transparently scummy 2iam is

How I felt last normal, but he was town. What's different here?

[Lovebird]

Mohab is voting me.

[Lovebird]

TWIM is less strong, but I firmly believe he is town. He is demonstrably incapable of being competent or "pro-town" as either alignment, this is true. However, his confidence, attitude, and stances this game all ring very hard town. I have not meta-dived TWIM and do not have time for the entire playerlist - Lexa specifically earned one for the entrance. His pushes seem logical and alright - for example, in isolation Lexa's entrance would look scummy (I thought so too which is why I did some research!) and that comment is fine. I believe him to be genuine. Also, RB is a good vote.

You say you haven't meta dived him, but you talk about his meta of not being pro town?

How can you say lexa's entrance would look scummy but then say there's nothing ai about yours?

[Lovebird]

Lovebird's a tank of doggy doodoo. As far as I can remember, virtually all of their posts have been quite bad. Their #26 is a bad reaction to a statement that has no indication of my alignment, however I doubt they know who I am so that's not really alignment indicative for Lovebird either. Their #30, however, makes it much worse. Any confidence I am scum from that post is not realistic nor genuine, and indicates to me they are fabricating a push on what is seemingly a new player. Their #58 is scummy, but it is not pro-town to state why so either you figure it out on your own or tough titties. Their #138 is posturing, but unlike Lexa it is scummy as heck this time. Overall, I have not liked a single post from this iso and have strongly disliked the majority. Lovebird can be the lynch of the day.

Lol.

[Lovebird]

Wouldn't it make more sense for scum to not make 58? Guess it depends on the setup.

[Lovebird]

i almost feel bad about how transparently scummy 2iam is

How I felt last normal, but he was town. What's different here?

How this is "posturing"?

[Lovebird]

You quoted town wincon wrong in 25. Lame entrance anyways. How is there nothing ai about an entrance like that?

[Lovebird]

"Was"?

[Lovebird]

I have seen games of his that I am recalling. This is not the same as specifically egosearching him.

Didn't answer second question.

[Lovebird]

Do you know what "posturing" is?

Explain.

[Lovebird]

I did not quote any wincon. Quoting your role pm, including partially, is against the site rules. Good try to get me modkilled. Care to explain why that entrance is alignment indicative in any way? It isn't, if you think I'm scum you should focus on me hammering a stated null read on page 6.

Lol.

Btw, don't think heyo was hammered.

[Lovebird]

Who else would scum choose?

[Lovebird]

Wow, must be annoying for their first towngame in a while to be like this.

[Lovebird]

Maybe if I completely ignore tiam, he'll be town like last time.

[Lovebird]

Tiam, you don't care about the quickhammer on page 5?

[Lovebird]

I really hope town doesn't quickhammer someone like that on page 5.

[Lovebird]

Just, bad. Also, he knew it was hammer.

[Lovebird]

Can you please use quotes. Also, you didn't respond to what I said yesterday.

[Lovebird]

Not Known 15 is quite townie. Very genuine thought processes.

I thought that looked kind of scummy. Awkward sounding, doesn't really come to any conclusions. Just talking

[Lovebird]

Lovebird looks more town than the last game I played with her. She seems to actually care.

Lol.

[Lovebird]

Why did you quickhammer heyoka?

[Lovebird]

Town does not have higher winrates when you drag games out for hundreds of pages. There's a reason everybody from every other site knows just how bad people are here and that towns have twice as much power here as they do elsewhere.

Town does not have better winrate when you lolhammer someone page 5. If you are town it's so, so bad. Not fair to other players, not fair to mod for wasting his setup.

[Lovebird]

You should look at the mod's meta, Lovebird. The mod is known for quickhammering anything at L-1. Same thing with Transcend and myself on my other alias.

You have to also be good to justify that. From your read on me, don't think that's so.

[Lovebird]

Ironic you talking about how bad this site is.

[Lovebird]

Not voting you yet because if you're town it's basically over for town. Want to avoid that.

[Lovebird]

Like, lol. "This site is so bad at day one!"

VOTE: Heyoka

I didn't know he was L-1.

[Lovebird]

I didn't believe my friends when they said this site was awful. Thank you for proving me wrong.

Who here has played poorly except for you?

[Lovebird]

If you're town, that is.

[Lovebird]

If kookoo is scum it's kind of strategic replacing. Against the rules?

[Lovebird]

Strategic replace outs are shitty but theres no reason to assume someone is doing it

I know, saying I think it's otwn.

[Lovebird]

I am not willing to follow you on a screenplay scumread, having some experience with him, but loviebird is totes lynchable and you just nominated yourself for mvt

Explain? I'm "lynchable"? Kookoo is "mvt"?

[Lovebird]

Is it my fate in normal games that people just say I'm scum with no reasons?

[Lovebird]

Kookoo, I feel like you're scumreading people because you think they're bad, not because they're scum.

[Lovebird]

If you want to reply to something quote it.
It’s a pain to click links go back a page find the post and look for the last read spot just to start over.

I actually liked the format lol. Post was much more readable that way.

It's horrible on phone.

[Lovebird]

I'm scumreading Mohab and Screenplay because they're hypocrites and aren't gamesolving, though it doesn't help that every time either one of them post I think damn, they're going to look back on this in 5 years and cringe at themselves. Like looking through old Facebook messages.

Is hypocryisy scummy? I think this is their meta style.

[Lovebird]

Kind of hard to get reads when day ends 5 pages in when people are still fluffing.

[Lovebird]

I have 5 completed games. You should definitely bother with the neighborhood games if you care.

[Lovebird]

I have 5 completed games. You should definitely bother with the neighborhood games if you care.

It is 5 pages and was luck. I did look at it.

Lol? Why are you bothering to mention that it was luck?

[Lovebird]

Like, you just hate me so much that you have to say my wins don't mean anything completely unprompted?

[Lovebird]

Did you look at the normal game?

[Lovebird]

A little. It ended in a no contest and no flips are given so it isn't useful.
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There was 1 scum. That isn't mafia. The game was also incredibly short. I don't consider it a skill based game.

This is lazy. You look at my scumgames and say it's similar to this game but don't look at all at the town normal. Just ISO the mod.

Okay, so you just felt like putting me down and that's why you mentioned it?

[Lovebird]

So what? Obviously I know it was abandoned. I'm saying if you're looking at scumgames and saying it's similar to my play this game but you're ignoring the town games then it's just pushing an agenda, not trying to sort me.

The scumteam and private threads were made public. I will find them.

[Lovebird]

So I say that you're pushing an agenda instead of sorting me and your response is that everyone pushes an agenda?

Lol.

Mafia
viewtopic.php?f=94&t=75106

Mod
viewtopic.php?f=94&t=75104

[Lovebird]

honestly I'm back to wanting to sub, I didn't join a game to explain to someone what an agenda is or what posturing is or why I should be obvious town from here.
I won't though, enjoy the AtE and I will read that.

You were saying I'm scum based on comparison to scumgames, ignoring comparison to towngames. Call it what you want. I think that's scum motivated.

[Lovebird]

Would be nice if people explained things instead of calling me terrible.

VOTE: Screenplay

If it's fake guilty I don't feel bad about losing to gamethrowing.

[Lovebird]

Man kookoo was doing so good with the "long page days" rant. I was totally feeling that. Then I come back to a fake guilty....

Had you read that earlier?

[Lovebird]

How am I playing poorly? I think my questions and what I was saying was fair.

[Lovebird]

You act so indignant, but I haven't even voted you today.

[Lovebird]

I think too many people have more confidence in what they say than is warranted.

[Lovebird]

Tchill is blatantly town?

[Lovebird]

You keep saying that I make terrible posts but you don't say anything about why they're terrible. So what am I supposed to do?

[Lovebird]

Kookoo could very well be right about screens alignment but that's the worst way to go about it. I'm not saying kookoo is right or wrong. It's just frustrating to see this "well I have to do it this way because people are so stupid" style of play from so many people.

I agree.

[Lovebird]

Screenplay is probably scum.

I really hope you guys don’t get intimidated by Kookoobird with his bad talking the player base and site. It’s a coward way to play and not fun.


I am an aesthetic. Deal with it. Lynching a claimed PR is ridiculous.

Ascetic isn't really a "power" role.

[Lovebird]

People play this game WAY TOO EMOTIONALLY. It just hurts town due to throwing logic out the window and pushing things because "your mad" or "I'm so good It's justifiable". So if every townie would just you know, not do stupid shit. We'd probably win this game.

OK rant over.

Kind of frustrating to get called terrible over and over. So sorry.

[Lovebird]

See like, this is my issue here. These posts by screenplay would have got him lynched super quickly where I'm from, though I would be lambasted for my fake claim. He can't even type his "modifier" right because it isn't his PM. More importantly he's claiming that he's a "PR" when he's plenty experienced enoguh to know ascetic is neg util, and didn't claim said neg util day 1 in a game with likely tons of town PRs. He's the easiest scum lynch in the world

To be fair, it could be autocorrect. Still seems like a scum claim, though.

[Lovebird]

I know ascetic is a word. Acetic too. Just, could be spelling it wrong anyways. I expect someone fakeclaiming to look at wiki or something, so it doesn't look fake to me just because of the misspelling.

[Lovebird]

Really don't think Kookoo is scum. Yes, I think they were very anti town. Should look past that though.

[Lovebird]

Mod you have not known 15 on the votecount twice

Tchill was also there twice! See? Fooled you, you didn’t catch all of them.

[Lovebird]

I didn’t claim aesthetic day 1?
You think that’s a scum claim?
It should be a confirmed town claim to anyone and easy to check.
Normal games are reviewed for balance. Godfather are not allowed in normals. Reviewers will not add a role that makes a virtual GF when they are banned.

It's really not the same as godfather. And, aren't these games crazy with roles anyways?

[Lovebird]

So you're lynching Srceen just on his Ascetic claim?

Why didn't he claim day one?

[Lovebird]

Normal games have to follow normal guidelines.

What's not normal about mafia ascetic?

[Lovebird]

Screen, are you saying you never seen a mafia ascetic in a normal game before?

[Lovebird]

Mini 1866: Landmark Mafia

Moderator

: BigYoshiFan

Current Update

: Game Over [Awaiting Archiving]

Player list

1. mlmooney89,
   Town Odd-Night Role Cop
   , lynched day 6
   
2. PantherPunt
   replaced kentofan
   ,
   Town Motion Detector
   , killed night 5
   
3. Srceenplay
   ,
   Vanilla Townie
   , endgamed
   
4. Anotora,
   Vanilla Townie
   , lynched day 2
   
5. Elena Fisher
   replaced Gamma Emerald replaced Obvious Alt
   ,
   Mafia Modified

   Ascetic
   , lynched day 5
   
6. Alisae,
   Vanilla Townie
   , lynched day 4
   
7. Pepchoninga,
   Mafia Encryptor
   , lynched day 3
   
8. Garmr,
   Town Non-Consecutive Watcher
   , killed night 3
   
9. RadiantCowbells,
   Vanilla Townie
   , killed night 4
   
10. Frozen Angel,
    Town 1-shot Rolestopper
    , killed night 2
    
11. Secret Agent Jin
    replaced keyenpeydee
    ,
    Vanilla Townie
    , lynched day 1
    
12. Firebringer,
    Mafia 1-Shot Roleblocker
    , survived
    
13. -Grey-,
    Town Weak Vanilla Cop
    , killed night 1

[Lovebird]

Lol.

[Lovebird]

Like I'd much rather get one of those lynches out if the way if we can't get passed them but I'd love to be able to get passed them.

Get past them to focus on who?

[Lovebird]

I don't think mohab is scum.

[Lovebird]

Was serious with my question to rb. How do you read tiam?

[Lovebird]

Really don't think Kookoo is scum. Yes, I think they were very anti town.

Should look past that though

.

Why do you think it should be ignored?

Not ignored. Saying that it's not right to just focus on someone doing something anti-town necessarily making them scum.

[Lovebird]

I believe it's TvT due to what I think is kookoos play style and the fact I do think see screen being scum atm.

What?

[Lovebird]

Not just pro town and anti town. Consider kookoo's mentality.

[Lovebird]

Wait, tchill. Why do you want to get past them?

[Lovebird]

Wait, tchill. Why do you want to get past them?

BecAuse I bet they're town. We need to move on from that.

What do you think of screenplay's claim?

[Lovebird]

Was serious with my question to rb. How do you read tiam?

hes scum with screenplay

Ok. But, I meant more of "method" than "current read".

[Lovebird]

Not just pro town and anti town. Consider kookoo's mentality.

Yeah but why is their mentality paired with the quickhammer town-indicative for you, as opposed for it to be NAI?

Not the mentality behind the quickhammer, just the feeling from a lot of the other points. I feel like I'm saying this poorly.

[Lovebird]

The other posts, I mean.

[Lovebird]

How is it a bad reason? He didn't claim ascetic and then made something up about godfathers.

[Lovebird]

I didn’t claim aesthetic day 1?
You think that’s a scum claim?
It should be a confirmed town claim to anyone and easy to check.
Normal games are reviewed for balance. Godfather are not allowed in normals. Reviewers will not add a role that makes a virtual GF when they are banned.

Normal games have to follow normal guidelines.

Mini 1866: Landmark Mafia

Moderator

: BigYoshiFan

Current Update

: Game Over [Awaiting Archiving]

Player list

1. mlmooney89,
   Town Odd-Night Role Cop
   , lynched day 6
   
2. PantherPunt
   replaced kentofan
   ,
   Town Motion Detector
   , killed night 5
   
3. Srceenplay
   ,
   Vanilla Townie
   , endgamed
   
4. Anotora,
   Vanilla Townie
   , lynched day 2
   
5. Elena Fisher
   replaced Gamma Emerald replaced Obvious Alt
   ,
   Mafia Modified

   Ascetic
   , lynched day 5
   
6. Alisae,
   Vanilla Townie
   , lynched day 4
   
7. Pepchoninga,
   Mafia Encryptor
   , lynched day 3
   
8. Garmr,
   Town Non-Consecutive Watcher
   , killed night 3
   
9. RadiantCowbells,
   Vanilla Townie
   , killed night 4
   
10. Frozen Angel,
    Town 1-shot Rolestopper
    , killed night 2
    
11. Secret Agent Jin
    replaced keyenpeydee
    ,
    Vanilla Townie
    , lynched day 1
    
12. Firebringer,
    Mafia 1-Shot Roleblocker
    , survived
    
13. -Grey-,
    Town Weak Vanilla Cop
    , killed night 1

[Lovebird]

To gain the benefit of being mafia ascetic.

[Lovebird]

damn I guess I actually have to read this game

srceen still lynch today.

VOTE: lovebird

I can settle on nullscum screen though.

You never explained me being "lynchable". Mind sharing reasons?

[Lovebird]

Yay, town win.

Have to learn to stop ignoring quiet scummy players.